Posted on Feb 12, 2020
Ashley Nicole
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Some days I get really discouraged because of my age and plan. I am 24, turning 25 in April. I will be enlisting as a private in a few months. About 40 college credits under my belt. I currently moved out of my apartment back in with my parents and I do not have a car right now. I’ve been jumping back and forth between serving and bartending jobs. I personally feel in my gut that the military (active duty) is the right choice for me. It doesn’t scare me or make me nervous. It genuinely motivates me and pushes me to be better thinking about my future in the army. I’m just concerned on the fact that I don’t have a plan. Is active a good idea? Should I consider college first and do the military part time? I guess I’m looking for personal experiences and seasoned advice.
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Joining active duty is a plan. The active duty military is a career choice. If you just do the bare minimum, and don't try to excel you will still have a successful career. At the end of 20 years you will have a Pension that pays you out immediately and will supplement your income until retirement. You will have a 401K with matching contributions from your employer, you'll have discounted Health Care Oh, and if you just apply yourself a little bit You will at least have a bachelor degree. All that, And you will still be young enough to start a second career, and had a GI Bill that will pay For you to attend training and receive whatever certifications you need for your next career.

If you're willing to put a bit of work in you can retire at a higher pay grade, or as an officer. You can separate with a fully paid Masters degree, transfer your GI Bill to your dependents, develop the experience and contacts be competitive to transfer into the next career of your choice, and earn skills and certifications prior to separation.

For instance, I joined as a cook. I attended airborne and Ranger school before separation. Then I rejoined as a medic. I applied for PA school, which didn't work out for me, but for my colleagues who were accepted, they are now PAs who are racking up medical certifications while the Army paid for their school. Now I'm a Career Counselor. The civilian equivalent would be a program manager. I would need a program manager certification to be competitive at that if I chose - the Army or my GI Bill would pay for that. I will have my Bachelor's done before I retire and could pursue a masters if I wanted.

Join now, go to college on active duty. Progress as you go. Embrace the 80% solution, don't wait for things to be 100%
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LTC Laura Wickett
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SFC Greg Bruorton
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Excellent advice, SFC (Join to see) for Ashley! Your comments are certainly on target and well informed for her.
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LTC Laura Wickett - Ma'am it has always been 60 years of age what the did do was pass a reduction in time act on 28 Jan 2008. Which allows any one on title 10 active status to deduct time of 90 days for every consecutive 90 days served on active status within a fiscal year. For example if you were on Active status as I was in 2008 every 90 days starting 29 Jan 2008 you could reduce the time. Which meant if you were on active status all of 2008 you got a reduction in time of 6 months. With the clock resetting 1 Oct 2008. To start all over again. Out of my 5 years of title 10 time I got 3 years of reduction time. so I was able to start collecting at 57. I retired as the age of 59.
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LTC Laura Wickett
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Thank you. I don't know what I was thinking. Must have confused it with SS. Oldtimers setting in. lol
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My Battle Buddy in Basic Training was 35 when he joined. He was able to keep up with us 17-18 year old troops.
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PVT Stephen Osenegg
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I concur... When I went to BCT, my battle buddy had an option 30 (RASP) contract at 33, and there were times he'd even out-perform me. We had a very friendly competition during the entire BCT between each other, constantly trying to out-perform the other.
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Joined at 35??? That's OK for 1 or 2 enlistments but not long term.

I'd say I was in my physical prime from 31 to 36. But after that I felt lucky that I joined at 20 yrs old. Because after 39 I felt like I was slowing down. But at that point I only had 1 year left before retirement so it didn't matter much.
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COL Jon Lopey
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I had a buddy on the CHP that was a former Marine officer. He got out and joined the CHP and was a CHP lieutenant when 9/11/01 struck. He volunteered for the Marines 25+ years or so after leaving the USMC. After a year they took him back but denied his request for the Infantry. He was supposedly the oldest 1LT in the USMC but when I was in Iraq he was a company adjutant in Ramadi with a friend's USMC company. He eventually made major. Even us old guys have potential on the modern battlefield as long as we stay fit! COL L
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SGT Herbert Bollum
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At 29 and not being athletic (no training since 9th grade I was passing 18 and 19 year old guys on the first run around parade grounds (10 laps) first morning.
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At the very least, if you don't currently have a long-term plan for what you want to do after the Army, then the Army will provide you significant stability to figure things out over time. You can work on your degree while you are serving, but expect it to take longer to complete, due to needing to take 1-2 courses at a time, and having potentially large gaps when you are deployed. If you join certain MOS', you can get a significant amount of college credit from local colleges that award credit for AIT completion. That can put you closer to completing an associate degree.
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COL Jon Lopey
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Great points - The military provides many, many opportunities while you are in the service and afterwards. I tell kids joining as well that we are technically still in a war-time footing and you will always be a war-era veteran, which also helps with benefits. The best part about the military is the great people you work with - You will form life-long relationships that cannot be replicated in most vocations or civilian job markets. COL L
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