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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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They're lucky they didn't get ventilated. The officers involved showed a lot more restraint than I think I've got.. lol
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SSG Robert Webster
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In reality what these individuals did was a terrorist act. Why - because it was planned and they deliberately masked themselves to instigate the police. I am all for gun rights, but what these individuals did was a criminal act, and the justice system once they have them locked up should just throw away the key. Activists my a**, they are terrorist.
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CPO Glenn Moss
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The smell of horsesh*t was wafting out of the speakers on my computer just listening to these two.

They messed up on so many ways, it isn't even worth enumerating. The rules of deadly force are pretty straight forward and the jurisdictional laws with respect to its legitimate use are almost always in line with the definition I learned in the Navy decades ago: Deadly force is that amount of force I know, or should know, will cause serious bodily injury or death, to be used as a last resort when all other means have been exhausted or cannot reasonably be employed.

The "rules of engagement" for civilians is a bit different than that for military or law enforcement, primarily because civilians do not have a duty to go in harms way for a variety of reasons.

While in a great many jurisdictions a civilian does not have a "duty to retreat" ("Castle Doctrine"), deliberately placing oneself in a position of danger where deadly force may be required OR deliberately instigating a conflict, or potential conflict, places them in the wrong.

These two nitwits did EXACTLY that...and got their keisters handed to them in court.

And they were so kind as to video themselves with all the verbiage required to make this absolutely plain in court.
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