Posted on Apr 24, 2019
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This has been on my mind and I want to make sure I’m not the crazy one. There’s 3 incidents I was given paperwork for that I think were ridiculously unfair. I don’t even think the standards of the squadron need to be describe to see why.

1. After surgery on my teeth I was on quarters for maybe 4 days including the weekend. When I returned to work I was put on a 3 night mission in the cold. After some pain in my teeth I requested to switch with someone and after my NCO refused, I went to med where it was found that my teeth got infected and I was again put on quarters for 2 days, and the weekend. Over the weekend an NCO texted me I had a meeting at 0830. I arrived at 0750 (normal report time being 0800) and was given paperwork for being late being told that they briefed a 0730 showtime on Thursday. I told him I had been on quarters and wasn’t informed of a schedule change at which point he said that was my responsibility.

2. A few weeks later, It was an exercise week and I contacted my section supervisor letting him know I’d be maybe 3 minutes late because I forgot my chem gear and he ok’d it. I got there maybe 2 min late and there was no issue, except that only 3 people brought their chem gear. Everyone who didn’t was released to go get it. At the end of the day my rater gave me an LOR for being late even after I pointed out I informed my section supervisor, and that no one else got I t trouble.

3. My GTC has a fraudulent charge on it. For some reason the email on the account was reversed and the GTC manager (a new guy) informed a guy who had a similar name as me but no one ever told me. A month later I found out, disputed the charge, the bank found it to be fraudulent and I got the money back. A month after that, i was given an LOR for GTC misuse. They said the bank wasn’t credible (??) and was taking my side (wtf?). I looked through the regulation on the GTC and I broke no rules and took all the steps it listed so I have no idea why I got paperwork

Maybe I’m the crazy one here but it feels like all this was NCOs making a mistake and refusing to admit they were wrong after getting the facts.

Opinions? Are there any regulations I can cite to say why this was unfair?
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Best thing to do is to go to IG. Explain to them the situation and they will do all the regulation homework for you. Ensure you have all your documents though.
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SGT Nicholas M.
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A1C (Join to see) - That's ahh... very interesting information. If everything is as you say, then I am sorry that was your military experience.
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A1C Air Transportation
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SGT Nicholas M. Thank you. I’m attempting to enlist in another branch so maybe that’ll work out and I can use what I’ve learned to help others. Appreciate your help
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SGT Nicholas M.
SGT Nicholas M.
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A1C (Join to see) - No problem. I piece of mentorship I will leave with you. I do not know your circumstances regarding that whole scenario. I only know what you have told us here. I also know that toxic leadership is absolutely a thing, but... do some professional introspection to expand upon why you may have been so vigorously targeted by your last command. Did you have personality qualities that made you less than favorable to work with? Where you a sham artist that knew how to float in gray areas to minimize work effort? I am not accusing you of any of these things, and EVEN IF YOU DID do any of the above mentioned, the way they handled it was shady and corruptive behavior at best. There are much more appropriate ways to handle that type of stuff. Good luck!
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SGT Nicholas M. quite the opposite which is why I’m so confused. I was the go to guy when something needed to get done. Only thing I can think of is that I was honest with higher leadership (above my commander,in a professional way) when they asked how I felt about the job and they allowed me to retrain. A lot of older guys said they tried to retrain and where denied so maybe it was spiteful
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First, go IMMEDIATELY to the Area Defense Counsel (ADC)! Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go DIRECTLY to the ADC. Speak with an attorney there (not a legal aid, not an intern, an actual bar certified lawyer). Follow their advice to the best of your ability.

Second, pending advice from ADC, go immediately to your First Sergeant. Invoke the Open Door Policy to speak with him/her if needed. Be polite and maintain your professionalism! Have proof, bring all relevant documentation, have a proposed solution in hand (such as changing rating chain, move duty sections, etc). Don't just whine about your situation.

Wait... I see in response to other comments your commander has already processed a discharge package on you. Why did you not take that to JAG/ADC before signing any paperwork? What grounds did s/he use for the discharge?
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MSgt Steven Holt I did go to the ADC and they seemed mad about the situation. I was given a general discharge for minor infractions. They helped me prepare a rebuttal but told me that it didn’t mean anything to the commander and was just to make sure I had all this stuff recorded in official records to go to the DRB.
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MSG Frank Kapaun
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You young man have managed to piss someone off. I would get the hell out of there ASAP.
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Haha Can I get that in writing? Apparently higher ups just refuse to believe that people do stuff like this simply for disliking someone and it somehow has to be my fault. I went through 3 commanders with no issues and with the new one I was suddenly getting paperwork back to back. Unfortunately I was discharged and am using this info mainly to fight it and keep myself sane.
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MSG Frank Kapaun
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A1C (Join to see) for what this is worth, during the 26 years I was in, I saw a lot of bullying behavior amongst the enlisted ranks due to fragile egos. This is the reason I say the E9 pay grade is one of the most useless ideas ever conceived. Good luck to you.
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CW4 Craig Urban
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I will say I was never late for formation. The fact you were forced to be put on full duty is off course the real issue
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