Prior Service
Prior Service
Posted on Sep 18, 2020
How do I get my senior wings now that I have over ten years experience as a C-130 crew chief and a UH-60 Blackhawk Repairer?
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I have over ten years experience September of 2001 to Jan 2007 c-130 and from March 2014 till current .
I’ve read the regulations but have seen others same situation that had their wings . I want to help others get theirs as well if possible.
If it’s over ten years should you not be able to get that ?
I’ve read the regulations but have seen others same situation that had their wings . I want to help others get theirs as well if possible.
If it’s over ten years should you not be able to get that ?
15T: UH-60 Helicopter Repairer
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Have you discussed this with your First Sergeant yet? Top Sergeants know everything about everything.
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Haha well I have a few different ones as they change so much. I’m really trying to find out for knowledge of how to work the in and outs for prior service aviation jobs due to the fact I have a few soldiers that are in same boat and if it’s possible I want to see them awarded their due.
I mean essentially we (the army ) gave birth to the Air Force in 1947 after the army air core so we are sorta the same thing in a way lol.
I mean essentially we (the army ) gave birth to the Air Force in 1947 after the army air core so we are sorta the same thing in a way lol.
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Don't quote me on it, but I'm 95% sure only your time in the Army will count. (I'm assuming your C-130 time is in another service) If I'm wrong and you are eligible, then you need to request award of the badge on a 4187 to the first O-6 Aviator in your chain of command.
AR 600-8-22, Par. 8-13. Aviation Badges
f. To be eligible for award of the Senior Aviation Badge, individuals must have met all the requirements for the permanent award of the Basic Aviation Badge as defined below in paragraph 8-13f(1) as well as either paragraphs 8-13f(2) or 8-13f(3).
(1) All individuals must—
(a) Display complete competence in the principal duty or duties performed leading to this award.
(b) Attain the grade of sergeant/E–5 or higher.
(c) Be recommended by the unit commander of the unit to which presently assigned.
(2) Ten years (not necessarily consecutive, see para 8–13(f)(4)) of experience in a principal duty assignment of the following CMF/MOS:
(a) CMF 15.
(b) CMF 67 (from 7 April 1983 through 31 August 2003).
(c) Aviation MOS 68 series (from 31 December 1985 through 30 September 2003).
(d) MOS 93; 93C and 93P (after 31 December 1985); 93B (from 7 April 1983 through 1 January 1998); 93D (from 7 April 1983 through 30 September 1996).
(e) MOS 71P (prior to 30 June 1984).
(f) MOS 96U (from 1 April 1993 through 30 September 2007).
(g) MOS 35K (from 1 April 2007 through 30 September 2008). MOS 35L, 35Q, and 35W for Soldiers who graduated from CMF 67 prior to 30 September 1996.
(h) MOS 52D with ASI U2 (from 1 April through 30 September 2009).
(i) MOS 33W with ASI U2 (from 1 April 1991 through 30 September 2010).
(j) MOS 68W Health Care Specialist, ASI F2 (from 1 October 2012 to present).
(k) AOC or MOS (68W ASI F3, 68W ASI W1, 73B ASI N7) and (66H with completion of the Joint Enroute Care Course) within the AMEDD that meet the criteria of paragraphs 8–13f(3) and 8–13f(4).
(3) Seven years (not necessarily consecutive) on flying status in accordance with AR 600–106 (see flying status for nonrated personnel) while holding a primary MOS in CMF 15 MOS or AMEDD personnel in a designated flight position.
(4) Time served while performing career progressive assignments such as drill instructor, recruiter, career management NCO, career advisor, instructor, or equal opportunity advisor may be used towards the 10-year requirement listed in paragraph 8–13(f)(2), not to exceed 36 months. Time served after a CMF 15 Soldier reclassifies to MOS 79R will not count towards this requirement.
AR 600-8-22, Par. 8-13. Aviation Badges
f. To be eligible for award of the Senior Aviation Badge, individuals must have met all the requirements for the permanent award of the Basic Aviation Badge as defined below in paragraph 8-13f(1) as well as either paragraphs 8-13f(2) or 8-13f(3).
(1) All individuals must—
(a) Display complete competence in the principal duty or duties performed leading to this award.
(b) Attain the grade of sergeant/E–5 or higher.
(c) Be recommended by the unit commander of the unit to which presently assigned.
(2) Ten years (not necessarily consecutive, see para 8–13(f)(4)) of experience in a principal duty assignment of the following CMF/MOS:
(a) CMF 15.
(b) CMF 67 (from 7 April 1983 through 31 August 2003).
(c) Aviation MOS 68 series (from 31 December 1985 through 30 September 2003).
(d) MOS 93; 93C and 93P (after 31 December 1985); 93B (from 7 April 1983 through 1 January 1998); 93D (from 7 April 1983 through 30 September 1996).
(e) MOS 71P (prior to 30 June 1984).
(f) MOS 96U (from 1 April 1993 through 30 September 2007).
(g) MOS 35K (from 1 April 2007 through 30 September 2008). MOS 35L, 35Q, and 35W for Soldiers who graduated from CMF 67 prior to 30 September 1996.
(h) MOS 52D with ASI U2 (from 1 April through 30 September 2009).
(i) MOS 33W with ASI U2 (from 1 April 1991 through 30 September 2010).
(j) MOS 68W Health Care Specialist, ASI F2 (from 1 October 2012 to present).
(k) AOC or MOS (68W ASI F3, 68W ASI W1, 73B ASI N7) and (66H with completion of the Joint Enroute Care Course) within the AMEDD that meet the criteria of paragraphs 8–13f(3) and 8–13f(4).
(3) Seven years (not necessarily consecutive) on flying status in accordance with AR 600–106 (see flying status for nonrated personnel) while holding a primary MOS in CMF 15 MOS or AMEDD personnel in a designated flight position.
(4) Time served while performing career progressive assignments such as drill instructor, recruiter, career management NCO, career advisor, instructor, or equal opportunity advisor may be used towards the 10-year requirement listed in paragraph 8–13(f)(2), not to exceed 36 months. Time served after a CMF 15 Soldier reclassifies to MOS 79R will not count towards this requirement.
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Yeah I have read this regulation as well and am still trying to figure out how the other NCO got his badge as he had not yet been army aviation ten years . I was six in Air Force for c-130s so that’s why I ask. It’s still aviation skills that some transferred over . Just different airframe specific applications .
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
I hate to say it, but it may have just been a clerical error and he probably should have never been awarded it in the first place.
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b. Ten years (not necessarily consecutive, see para 8–29d) of experience in a principal duty assignment of the
following CMF/MOS:
(1) CMF 15.
(2) CMF 67 (from 7 April 1983 through 31 August 2005).
(3) MOS 68 (from 31 December 1985 through 30 September 2003).
(4) MOS 93C and 93P (after 31 December 1985); 93B (from 7 April 1983 through 1 January 1998); 93D (from 7
April 1983 through 30 September 1996).
(5) MOS 71P (prior to 30 June 1984).
(6) MOS 96U (from 1 April 1991 through 30 September 2007).
(7) MOS 35K (from 1 April 2007 through 31 October 2008).
following CMF/MOS:
(1) CMF 15.
(2) CMF 67 (from 7 April 1983 through 31 August 2005).
(3) MOS 68 (from 31 December 1985 through 30 September 2003).
(4) MOS 93C and 93P (after 31 December 1985); 93B (from 7 April 1983 through 1 January 1998); 93D (from 7
April 1983 through 30 September 1996).
(5) MOS 71P (prior to 30 June 1984).
(6) MOS 96U (from 1 April 1991 through 30 September 2007).
(7) MOS 35K (from 1 April 2007 through 31 October 2008).
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