Prior Service
Prior Service
Posted on Mar 7, 2021
What will infantry school be like as a prior service SGT from the marines that already has a combat deployment under their belt goin army ?
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I’m still active in the Marines I am during the conditional release program to go over to the army without getting out and going back in I just don’t wanna be treated like some dude when I’m going through the infantry school and I want to know how long it will be for me being prior service because the recruiters don’t have much of an answer for me
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Prior Service
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You are just some dude coming into the Army. When Pat Tillman and Elvis Presley left their blossoming careers behind and joined the Army they were just some dudes as well. No one cares that you had deployments and you'll have Drill Sergeants who have more deployment time and more schools than you so it will help you to check your ego at the door. In Army schools there are only students and instructors. All students are equal in the Army.
If you have to go to Infantry school in the Army then you're 100% just another dude. I'll leave you with one of the best pieces of advice an NCO gave a young, headstrong Ranger Boyd: "Keep your mouth shut and your ears open. If you're in a class it means you have something left to learn."
If you have to go to Infantry school in the Army then you're 100% just another dude. I'll leave you with one of the best pieces of advice an NCO gave a young, headstrong Ranger Boyd: "Keep your mouth shut and your ears open. If you're in a class it means you have something left to learn."
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SSG Bill McCoy
PO2 Robert Cuminale - Well, I don't think the conversation had anything to do with the 1700's with impressment. That infamy was completely unlike the draft in the later U.S. Yes, draftees had little choice other than deferrment (family, medical, college) or fleeing to Canada. Regardless, once they reported for their physicals, they took the oath the same as anyone else who volunteered. The draft, for men, was a way of life for decades and far from what the British did with impressment.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
I'm not buying it. Regardless, the person is forced to report to the AFEES station under federal laws that require him to do so or face consequences. At some point the "recruit" resigns himself to the inevitability that he is going to have to take that oath and sign the papers, book a flight to Sweden or spend time in a federal prison. Nothing about this process says voluntary. It was not initiated by the individual himself but by a bureaucrat pulling his birth date from a hat.
VOLUNTARY: done, given, or acting of one's own free will:
"we are funded by voluntary contributions"
synonyms
optional, discretionary, at one's discretion, elective, noncompulsory,
Get it?
I got my Draft notice in June 1971. Rather than spend my time as a grunt with McNamara's Morons as cannon fodder I joined the Navy. The choice to be in military service was not mine. My choice was in choosing what branch of the military to serve. That I was going into the military was inevitable. Canada and Sweden are too cold, prison
is too restricting and has a lifetime consequence and I didn't feel like going to school. Given that I had a good, well paying job with career potential why would I choose to leave for a job where I would be treated like shit for 13 weeks and be told where I could live and what I would be doing? Only compulsion made all that possible.
I hate being pedantic but you just don't get it.
VOLUNTARY: done, given, or acting of one's own free will:
"we are funded by voluntary contributions"
synonyms
optional, discretionary, at one's discretion, elective, noncompulsory,
Get it?
I got my Draft notice in June 1971. Rather than spend my time as a grunt with McNamara's Morons as cannon fodder I joined the Navy. The choice to be in military service was not mine. My choice was in choosing what branch of the military to serve. That I was going into the military was inevitable. Canada and Sweden are too cold, prison
is too restricting and has a lifetime consequence and I didn't feel like going to school. Given that I had a good, well paying job with career potential why would I choose to leave for a job where I would be treated like shit for 13 weeks and be told where I could live and what I would be doing? Only compulsion made all that possible.
I hate being pedantic but you just don't get it.
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SFC Jerry McLellen
I think you have been fed to many "Thank You for your service" comments, and now act like some tough guy. You are NOT a part of his intra-service transfer. He asked a simple question and gets a less than helpful answer from you. This active-duty Marine Sgt may already be twice the soldier you are SFC Boyd.
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SPC Robert Montoya
SFC Jerry McLellen - Thank you for your vote SFC McLellen. I admit that I was a bit crass with my comments to Sergeant Boyd's response to SGT Brandon's question. That said, I wouldn't have been so critical of SFC Boyd's arrogance had his experience been a bit more in depth than just as a cook, medic, and recruiter with the majority of his duty assignments at Lewis-McChord. Yes, it is always wise to shut up and learn, however, that wisdom goes both ways. HOOAH!
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Sgt (Join to see) Since most of these people a just spouting anecdotal opinions, I’ll answer your question.
You will get slotted into a OSUT class (somewhere from day 0- partially through). The DS will pull you aside and explain their expectations for you, generally you’ll help them with keeping the new privates in line and teaching them the basics.
You will most likely get your own barracks or living space. And you may even get weekend off post passes.
Don’t expect to be in a leadership position, but be prepared to help out whoever is the position with guidance on being a leader.
Spend your time learning the “basics” of the Army (uniform wear, customs and courtesies, basic tactics [TC 3-21.8 is the infantry bible]). These will help you transition to “Army infantry”.
If you have any questions, ask the DS, and they will help you out. Best of luck on your transition.
You will get slotted into a OSUT class (somewhere from day 0- partially through). The DS will pull you aside and explain their expectations for you, generally you’ll help them with keeping the new privates in line and teaching them the basics.
You will most likely get your own barracks or living space. And you may even get weekend off post passes.
Don’t expect to be in a leadership position, but be prepared to help out whoever is the position with guidance on being a leader.
Spend your time learning the “basics” of the Army (uniform wear, customs and courtesies, basic tactics [TC 3-21.8 is the infantry bible]). These will help you transition to “Army infantry”.
If you have any questions, ask the DS, and they will help you out. Best of luck on your transition.
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1SG John Ayala
The question I have is what rank are you coming in as? It makes a difference of your role and expectations. You could find yourself with other NCOs that are reclassifying, and a lot of training will be familiar, unfortunately the Army does not have the ethos as the Marines have; 0300 – Basic Rifleman. Your experience and bearing does make a difference. As said above you will be in a position to use your knowledge, and influence those young soldiers to be better faster, the DS's will expect that. I admit I am an old soldier, but I spent 31 of my 34 years as an NCO, I would always use those with experience to reenforce the training with those around them. There is also the brotherhood of veterans being respectful of one another, you been through the fire and came out tempered. Be the mentor when you can, and student all the other times. Semper Fi Devil Dog
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SSG Bill McCoy
SFC (Join to see) - "Old outdated stories," can and do provide some insight for many questions asked. Anyone should realize however, that old stories MAY not be relevant to more recent times. Ther's nothing wrong with anecdotal "stories."
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You are going to the Army. This means you need to learn how the Army does things - which is different to how we do things in the Marine Corps. Hell, if the Marine Corps would take me back I would have to 100% recycle most of my basic training as it is almost 40 years out of date while my MOS training is 25+ years out of date. Does not matter that I am a SSgt or not. Does not matter if I went to Desert Shield/Storm or not.
The Army does things differently. You need to learn it, embrace it and never utter the words "but in the Marines we did it this way". What you do take with you is that inner training, that mental attitude of a Marine to improvise, adapt and overcome. Combine Army training and ways of doing things with Marine COrps toughness and grit and you will be a great Sgt in the Army.
The Army does things differently. You need to learn it, embrace it and never utter the words "but in the Marines we did it this way". What you do take with you is that inner training, that mental attitude of a Marine to improvise, adapt and overcome. Combine Army training and ways of doing things with Marine COrps toughness and grit and you will be a great Sgt in the Army.
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