Posted on Nov 3, 2019
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I am a ccc and kd complete CPT with only sr HQ OERs and a few MQ by the rater. My in the zone board is next year and I will have no new OERs before my next look. Even if I get a MQ for my above the zone look i will still get passed over( unless some miracle happens). Is it possible to get severance pay once I am passed over for promotion twice and then switch to the reserves or national guard and still make Major? Or would i remain a CPT in the reserves or national guard? I enjoy my broadening assignment and want to be here as long as possible( i just moved here 3 months ago and owe 3 years) would I have to drop my refrad immediately after my first pass over for promotion and switch to the reserves in order to be able to get promoted to major or even have a chance at promotion?
All advice is welcome on how to move forward
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Yes you can - especially in the National Guard. I knew a guy in the mid-80s who got out as a 1LT from Active Army to National Guard. he had some shitty OERs. He became a battery commander and made Captain. Two years later he made S3 Major, 4 years later he made LTC. He went to the Gulf War with 196th Field Artillery Brigade. He retired as a COL.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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COL David Turk - Truth. CCDefinitely check out current situation.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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CPT (Join to see) - Not recently - as I said - mid 80s.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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CPT (Join to see) - I don't think transferring to the Reserve or Army National Guard will save you if you have been passed over twice. The Army Reserve promotion authority should be the same as Active and in the Guard the competition for Major and especially LTC is harder than in the Regular Army, not nearly as many slots with a State usually.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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CPT Lawrence Cable - CPT (Join to see) - That would be the difference between the 1LT I knew and a person passed over twice. Hope it's available to you.
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Yes you can switch and severance pay is contingent upon agreeing to three years of service in the Reserve Component or IRR. You'll still be eligible for promotions in the future.
You'll have to figure out where you want to transition to and then find a slot in the USAR or ARNG for that location. That's all handled by the Silver Siege recruiter/liaison at your post.
I don't know when you have to separate, I think it's something like a year after your second look, but it could be completely off on that. All the officers I helped REFRAD were NQR and separating to pursue civilian careers.
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Yes - you can transfer to the reserves/NG and continue your career. Being a CCC graduate and KD complete your chances of being selected to O4 in the reserves are very high. The primary reason for people not getting promoted in the reserves is lack of PME and KD so you should be covered. There are advantages and disadvantages to submiting a REFRAD now vs awating for the 2nd pass over, but either way you should be able to continue your career. It really comes down to your goals and timing. I know several people who were forced out of active duty and with in 90 days of transfering to the reserves were promoted and serving again full time. Reach out to your local silver sage recuiter. The reserves is a different animal with many more career options than you are used to on active duty
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Sir, forced out and 90 days later they are serving again fulltime? Did they go AGR? I will try to find a silver sage recruiter- I have never heard of that term.
Thank you
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From what I have seen most people get into the reserves then apply for a tour or AGR. It will all depend on what you want to do and how you time it. There are multiple ways to serve in the reserves both full and part time. The most common is TPU (think one weekend a month 2 weeks a year). Once in a reserve component there is a annual or semiannual AGR board. You will submit a packet and if selected have the opportunity to serve in the reserves full time with all the pay and benifits of active duty. PCS and career progression is similar to active duty. There are also various types of mobilizations and ADOS tours you can go on 30 days to 3 years - the tour of duty website is a good medium to view and apply for opportunities once you are in the reserve component.
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