PTSD
PTSD
Posted on May 20, 2017
What advice do you have for someone being harassed and flagged, despite two P3 profiles, multiple medical issues, and an impending MEB?
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Three sides to every story and we have heard just one.
As you noted
A flag is an administrative action, if the SM failed height and weight the flag is apropret...
If there is a documented medical reason for the failure then separation under at 600-9 is not required.
Was she driving 300 miles to drill prior to her current issues or was she transferred to a new unit and the long distance travel is new?
If not new, then that's life.
Many, MANY soldiers and leaders have a significant issue and bias towards SM's that claim PTSD from non combat events.
Not saying the clinical term can not apply, but reality is anybody that serve for any length of time no somebody with TBI and PTSD because of combat related injuries they're missing legs arms other chunks of body can't hear can't see receive multiple concussions from being blown out those people also have PTSD and as humans it's very hard to hear somebody claim PTSD and Trumatic brain injury from a car accident they had on their way to the movies or work or their boyfriends house or whatever,, clinically accurate terms yes no doubt
But PTSD and TBI in a unit filled with people that have those clinical terms assigned dur to combat injuries it's very hard to hear them used for non combat injuries right wrong or different it's human nature.
You're going to have to help us though what exactly are the actions of the unit you feel meet the definition of harassment?
Because so far I'm not seeing harassment charges justified
I'm reading about a soldier who has medical issues and isn't getting things done the way they want it done
Which they are welcome to want things done their way and work toward things getting done their way but rights and wants are miles apart
As you noted
A flag is an administrative action, if the SM failed height and weight the flag is apropret...
If there is a documented medical reason for the failure then separation under at 600-9 is not required.
Was she driving 300 miles to drill prior to her current issues or was she transferred to a new unit and the long distance travel is new?
If not new, then that's life.
Many, MANY soldiers and leaders have a significant issue and bias towards SM's that claim PTSD from non combat events.
Not saying the clinical term can not apply, but reality is anybody that serve for any length of time no somebody with TBI and PTSD because of combat related injuries they're missing legs arms other chunks of body can't hear can't see receive multiple concussions from being blown out those people also have PTSD and as humans it's very hard to hear somebody claim PTSD and Trumatic brain injury from a car accident they had on their way to the movies or work or their boyfriends house or whatever,, clinically accurate terms yes no doubt
But PTSD and TBI in a unit filled with people that have those clinical terms assigned dur to combat injuries it's very hard to hear them used for non combat injuries right wrong or different it's human nature.
You're going to have to help us though what exactly are the actions of the unit you feel meet the definition of harassment?
Because so far I'm not seeing harassment charges justified
I'm reading about a soldier who has medical issues and isn't getting things done the way they want it done
Which they are welcome to want things done their way and work toward things getting done their way but rights and wants are miles apart
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SPC Sean Slaughter
SGM,
She had transferred to a unit that was within 25 miles of HOR and was drilling there about 7 months when she went to IG to have them look into why the LOD was taking so long she was told that her transfer was illegal(even though she had signed orders) and that she was going to lose her PMOS as she medically could not do it so they put her into her secondary MOS which she also couldn't do because of the profiles and sent her to a unit that is over 300 miles away. My wife is a professional counselor as well as a combat vet who served with the Marines in Fallujah and does not suffer PTSD from combat; however when traveling to drill several years ago she was hit by 3 18 wheelers and almost died(they read her her last rights just in case). I do take affront that you are implying she's not a good soldier. She was an outstanding Soldier! When she almost died and was placed on bed rest for months NO ONE in her unit checked on her, no one assigned a caretaker, no one even wondered if she was alive. Before her accident she volunteered to travel statewide and give suicide awareness courses to AD an Guard units on a regular basis. After the accident her chain started treating her different. She could barely afford to eat because she could no longer work in the civilian field she had before due to the injuries suffered so she became the squeaky wheel at drill asking about the investigation and when she was going to be compensated for all the medical bills and they punished her for it. So they blackballed her and sent her away to another unit in another job she hadn't done in over a decade and one she couldn't do anyway because of the injuries and then threatened her by saying you are lucky we aren't charging you for a false transfer even though she followed the procedure perfectly and had orders signed by an O6. After 3 years I think she is entitled to say enough is enough. As far as harassment she's been told she is worthless by PS, has been lied to about the submission of her MEB multiple times and has been refused the right to speak to her case manager or the MEB as is allowed by regulation, her CoC has disseminated HIPPA protected material to damn near everyone so everyone knows her private medical information even though every document we submitted to them we specifically said do not disseminate outside of these ppl (CDR, 1SG, direct CoC and medical personnel). The unit she is with is a non combat support unit. According to DOD regulations the flag wasn't allowed as she was under 6 months from pregnancy as well as recent diagnosis for hypothyroidism and the P3s all which either allow more time to correct the issue without admin flags. There is so many things that they do that is just inappropriate towards a Soldier that is legitimately injured as well as suffering from PTSD and TBI. I get that some people are like oh it's not PTSD and TBI cause it didn't happen in combat, but I legit don't give a shit what they think cause they are idiots no matter what tank they are! They are medical diagnoses that are made by Doctors with 8+ years of school not some Pog ass staff Captain with a 4 year business degree. They are not exclusive to military members either.
She had transferred to a unit that was within 25 miles of HOR and was drilling there about 7 months when she went to IG to have them look into why the LOD was taking so long she was told that her transfer was illegal(even though she had signed orders) and that she was going to lose her PMOS as she medically could not do it so they put her into her secondary MOS which she also couldn't do because of the profiles and sent her to a unit that is over 300 miles away. My wife is a professional counselor as well as a combat vet who served with the Marines in Fallujah and does not suffer PTSD from combat; however when traveling to drill several years ago she was hit by 3 18 wheelers and almost died(they read her her last rights just in case). I do take affront that you are implying she's not a good soldier. She was an outstanding Soldier! When she almost died and was placed on bed rest for months NO ONE in her unit checked on her, no one assigned a caretaker, no one even wondered if she was alive. Before her accident she volunteered to travel statewide and give suicide awareness courses to AD an Guard units on a regular basis. After the accident her chain started treating her different. She could barely afford to eat because she could no longer work in the civilian field she had before due to the injuries suffered so she became the squeaky wheel at drill asking about the investigation and when she was going to be compensated for all the medical bills and they punished her for it. So they blackballed her and sent her away to another unit in another job she hadn't done in over a decade and one she couldn't do anyway because of the injuries and then threatened her by saying you are lucky we aren't charging you for a false transfer even though she followed the procedure perfectly and had orders signed by an O6. After 3 years I think she is entitled to say enough is enough. As far as harassment she's been told she is worthless by PS, has been lied to about the submission of her MEB multiple times and has been refused the right to speak to her case manager or the MEB as is allowed by regulation, her CoC has disseminated HIPPA protected material to damn near everyone so everyone knows her private medical information even though every document we submitted to them we specifically said do not disseminate outside of these ppl (CDR, 1SG, direct CoC and medical personnel). The unit she is with is a non combat support unit. According to DOD regulations the flag wasn't allowed as she was under 6 months from pregnancy as well as recent diagnosis for hypothyroidism and the P3s all which either allow more time to correct the issue without admin flags. There is so many things that they do that is just inappropriate towards a Soldier that is legitimately injured as well as suffering from PTSD and TBI. I get that some people are like oh it's not PTSD and TBI cause it didn't happen in combat, but I legit don't give a shit what they think cause they are idiots no matter what tank they are! They are medical diagnoses that are made by Doctors with 8+ years of school not some Pog ass staff Captain with a 4 year business degree. They are not exclusive to military members either.
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SPC Sean Slaughter
I usually have better grammar and sound more coherent, but typing this on my little phone screen is terrible so sorry if that may not be ultra clear.
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I'm not sure. This is a complicated issue. I would suggest talking to a medical officer. Also if the problem persists, I would recommend that she tell her supervisors that she intends to use the Battalion Commanders open door policy and explain her situation directly. If inaction or even reprisals happen, then I would talk to IG and eventually write a congressman. I can give little useful advice as I am not totally aware of the situation. All I can suggest is fully utilizing the appropriate channels. Also, if she does plan to use the open door policy, she really needs to inform her supervisor as failing to do so can make a situation worse for her.
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