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@PO1 William "Chip" Nagel PVT James Strait LTC Stephen C. Sgt Will Paige CPT Jack Durish SFC James Shanks LTC (Join to see) SGT (Join to see) SPC Michael Oles SR
Something to ponder. Here's a list of mass shootings dating back to 1982. What caught my eye is the number of mass shootings that took place while Obama was in office, 2009 - 2017. THIRTYSEVEN, (37). That's an average of just over 2.5 mass shootings for EVERY single month that Obama was in office. Was Obama to blame for them? Were Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush to blame for all the mass shootings while they were in office? The sad fact is mass shootings take place regardless of who is in the White house.
https://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - If it's a creditable threat, I believe they can intervene. They would have to go through the process of obtaining evidence, presenting it to a judge, then getting a search warrant. Of course by the time they do all that, it might be too late.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - I honestly don't believe that higher ups in government are promoting hate crimes. If you were to believe that, than you would also have to believe that Obama was responsible for the mass shooting murders of 5 Dallas police officers because of his rhetoric about police being racist across the country. I don't believe that Obama was responsible for it, just as I don't believe Trump is not responsible for the latest mass shootings.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - I believe in those reason for blocking someone. I don't know what the circumstances were, so I can't really give an opinion. We all have to be careful about the reason of "consistently lying" though. Sometimes simply disagreeing can be interpreted as lying.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - I agree, if law enforcement had creditable evidence that any of these mass shooters were planning something, they should have intervened as soon as possible.
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PVT James Strait LTC Stephen C. SFC James Shanks LTC (Join to see) CPT Jack Durish SGT Tony Lee Hamilton SPC Michael Oles SR And on Sunday a mass shooter who supports Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and socialism killed 9 in Dayton, OH. We're not hearing any blame put on them are we.
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It’s funny how the big news outlets only report the part of the news that they can smear President Trump with. That’s why no one trusts the do called news outlets anymore, they’ve been caught lying too many times.
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MSgt Steve Sweeney - I provided 4 different sources for you to look at. Are you saying this is not true for the Dayton shooter? You have me a little confused here.
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SFC (Join to see) - Spot on. You hit the nail on the head.
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Yep. If these politicians want to totally ban guns, are they going to give up theirs, or have their security personal give up theirs also? Are the police going to have to give up theirs?
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Ok... But let's also stop suggesting this is all on President Trump or that he in any way condones what the shooter did. How about we recognize the fact that the left has been relentless in claiming Trump is racist and working hard to paint a picture that he approves of the White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi agenda. One might even argue that they (the left) are becoming very successful at convincing these morons that Trump approves their racist actions and is playing a wink, wink, nudge, nudge game.

The following day an apparent extreme leftist attempted to kill a large number of people in Dayton, OH. He hates Trump, the Police and ICE. Is Trump responsible for that too or do we point to the Democrats who remain silent about Antifa and promote socialism?
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SSgt Joseph Baptist SFC (Join to see) - Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin Mass shootings are not the President's fault, no matter who the President is. If that were true, then we should blame Obama for the murder of 5 Dallas police officer's right?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291
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SGT (Join to see) - I never said otherwise. I don't blame Obama for the Police Officer killings, but I did criticize his rhetoric against our law enforcement officers. Could it have emboldened people to kill? Who knows? But that's on them. At no time did the President say or imply, go out there and kill the Police.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - I am aware of the history and the true make up of the Nazi origins. The KKK not only had a home in the Democrat Party, they in many ways ran it or served as it's strong arm for things like voter intimidation. Shortly after they were formed they became the response against the Republican led southern reconstruction era and their goal to integrate and provide equal status for Black Americans in the south. This isn't to say there were never any Republican members of the KKK, but it is clear the Democrats owned most of that membership. Today, trying to associate groups like the KKK with the Republican Party is ridiculous. On that same note I do not believe the Democrat party condones them either. They are essentially party-less and more inclined to side with whoever promotes with what they believe promotes their objectives. Problem is, such things fall within both parties and neither side promotes these issues for the purpose of white supremacy.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - I agree, and the same goes for Trump, at no time did he ever say or imply, "go out there and kill anyone who you might hate"
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