Posted on Apr 12, 2015
CW2 Stephen Pate
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How many of you have ever filled a position without having the rank? This has happened to me twice in my career and I've never really had an issue. I was tagged to be the motor sergeant for an FSC as a SSG (E7 position) and I held it down for a few years until I got promoted, then of course it was time to PCS! Now I am taking on a 1SG position as an E7 while waiting for for the board results to come out. The only issue I have ever had with this scenario is the possibility of having to step down ifthe appropriate ranking person showed up. Other than that I think these events in my career have had an overall positive effect. What say you?
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SSG Parachute Rigger
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Sounds like it has worked to your benefit.

I have done it more than once for sure. The only issue I had was that there were people who could fill the position but chose not to. Yet I had one come tell me he did not like the way I ran the Platoon. I told him to take it then. Of course he had too many excuses as to why he could not fill the Platoon Sergeant Position as an E-7 which is the ARMY's description for such rank.

I am currently waiting on something to see if I will retire or not.
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SFC Walt Littleton
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I retired in 1995. I made E5 in about 2 years. The problem with making SGT so quickly it took me many years to get promoted to SSG.

My MOS was signal and I was always slotted in E-6 positions. Mostly operations in the company.

I. 1978 I was stationed with the 101st as a SGT. Being in a deployable combat unit as a SGT with 10 years service I had more time in grade and service than all the other SGT's and SSG's. Being in a combat support maintenance unit with 8 different shops I was used by the 1SG to fill SSG positions as NCOIC of shops when the NCO would PCS and there were no replacements slated to fill the open positions.

I survived by reading TM's and learning the jobs of each shop I would run. My military skills as an NCO allowed me to operate in those positions. The chain of command was superior and allowed me the freedom to lead. In the 4 years of my first assignment there I became the NCOIC of the Armament Repair, Recovery Wrecker Movement & Welding, Division Technical Parts Distribution Center and Shop Operations NCOIC.

Imy next assignment was Korea. I was assigned to a mobile maintenance communication repair shop. We traveled to every post and mountain top to provide scheduled and emergency repair of defense communications. When I arrived there were 2 SFC's and 3 SSG's. I was a SGT. Within 2 months all had PCS'd leaving me in and E-8 slot until I rotated.

I went back to the 101st as a Commo Chief for a combat engineer company when I made SSG and became a Platoon Sergeant in an SFC position and became the TOC NCOIC of operations as and additional duty when deployed.

PCS'd to Ft Gordon Signal a school and was selected as a training battalion Platoon Seegeant with duties as a Drill Sergeant. This was an SFC position. As a matter of fact I was the last platoon sergeant I the trail as the Drill Sergeants relieved us of this duty.

Arrived in Germany as a SSG and made SFC. I was selected to be the Station Commander of a communications Site providing command and control communications for tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. This was a Master Sergeants position.

Went to Somalia as a communications chief and arrived back in my unit in Geemany and was selected as acting 1SG. Due to the drawdown in Germany my MOS was not needed and received orders to leave before my 1SG position was solidified.

So basically most of my career I worked at least 1 and 2 grades above mine. Some were presented to me and some I volunteered.
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CW2 Stephen Pate
CW2 Stephen Pate
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Thats incredible! Thank you for your service. Very impressive career!
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SFC Walt Littleton
SFC Walt Littleton
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SFC Stephen Pate- Thank you for the compliment. I thought all that volunteering and putting in extra effort would at least get me to E8 or 9 but kept getting passed over. As an E-7 I missed being chosen 2 years in a row and I had over 20 so I had to retire. I say when they put me out to pasture. I miss it every day. Even after all these years.

Thanks for taking over and carrying the load!
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I had my company for eight months. It was horrible when my replacement showed up. I kept hoping he would get deleted or re-routed. Ah, too bad. It was the most rewarding and challenging time of my career.

*edit gammar fix.
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CW2 Stephen Pate
CW2 Stephen Pate
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I hear you SFC Glaser. If I have to step down its gonna suck. Im excited about this opportunity for sure!
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SFC Telecommunications Operations Chief
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SFC Pate, I will tell you this, you will learn more as a First Sergeant than you have to this point in your career.
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CW2 Stephen Pate
CW2 Stephen Pate
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I hope so! Its about time I learned something! Haha!
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