Capt Gregory Prickett We've been down this road. Show me an effect without a cause and I'll entertain the idea that we weren't created.

Creators exist everywhere. So someone or something creating us isn't a far stretch. Your idea, on the other hand, that we weren't created is a myth, an idea for which you can't even diagram how it might have happened. It's not logical. If it is, show me evidence. Better yet, show me an example.

MAJ (Join to see) - shifting the burden of proof again? That's a fallacy....

Capt Gregory Prickett Demanding proof and never providing any again? That's BS...

In case you're unaware, neither side of the argument can prove how we got here. Because neither side was there and this isn't something that can be tested. But at least I can offer examples that match my model. You can't. It's just another question you avoid. It's a tactic that is easily seen though and it's tiresome.

MAJ (Join to see) - I'm tired of the loop tape recording you keep playing. I'll unblock you in 10 days, but in the meantime you should actually read what I've said, versus what you think I am saying.