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There is another post going around about 53 companies who do not allow guns to be carried in their stores and that you should boycott them. A question was raised about someone needing to run to 17 different stores to run errands and that one of those stores doesn't allow guns. So what is a responsible gun owner supposed to do, just go back later and waste gas without your weapons?
No!
Keep your gun in your car, and go into the store.
In my opinion any responsible gun owner will always have a way to safely and securely store their weapon when not in use. In the home it's easy, you just buy a big ole gun safe for storage.
But what about your car?
There are many different car gun safes that are designed just for your car. The problem is that most of them are too small for larger weapons like rifles. Oh sure they are out there, but they are expensive. But if you tote around your rifles and shotguns a lot, they are worth it.
First, here is a link to the smaller car gun safes.
http://cavearmor.com/best-car-gun-safe-for-vehicles-reviews/
All of these are perfectly capable of storing your weapon in your car, and are in most cases easily installed by the DIYer.
I own and drive a 2000 Ford F150 Super Cab, and I have two gun safes installed. One is in the center compartment of the middle console and I straight up bought it, it's for my .22 pistol I conceal carry and cannot tote it into whatever building I am going into, it will also fit my larger caliber pistols if I ever chose to conceal carry them. The other is beneath the backseat, and I built it myself out of 3/4" rolled steel that took a plasma torch to cut and is secured by two different locking mechanisms that would take hours to pick. I then had it inspected by the local police to see if it met their criteria. Both are secured to the frame of the truck by bolts that I welded to the frame so they cannot be simply unbolted and taken out without first opening each safe. To break into it any other way while parked in public would draw way too much scrutiny.
Being a gun owner to me is about more than how many you own or how much you know about them. It's about using them responsibly and keeping them out of the hands of people who would do harm to others with your weapons.
No!
Keep your gun in your car, and go into the store.
In my opinion any responsible gun owner will always have a way to safely and securely store their weapon when not in use. In the home it's easy, you just buy a big ole gun safe for storage.
But what about your car?
There are many different car gun safes that are designed just for your car. The problem is that most of them are too small for larger weapons like rifles. Oh sure they are out there, but they are expensive. But if you tote around your rifles and shotguns a lot, they are worth it.
First, here is a link to the smaller car gun safes.
http://cavearmor.com/best-car-gun-safe-for-vehicles-reviews/
All of these are perfectly capable of storing your weapon in your car, and are in most cases easily installed by the DIYer.
I own and drive a 2000 Ford F150 Super Cab, and I have two gun safes installed. One is in the center compartment of the middle console and I straight up bought it, it's for my .22 pistol I conceal carry and cannot tote it into whatever building I am going into, it will also fit my larger caliber pistols if I ever chose to conceal carry them. The other is beneath the backseat, and I built it myself out of 3/4" rolled steel that took a plasma torch to cut and is secured by two different locking mechanisms that would take hours to pick. I then had it inspected by the local police to see if it met their criteria. Both are secured to the frame of the truck by bolts that I welded to the frame so they cannot be simply unbolted and taken out without first opening each safe. To break into it any other way while parked in public would draw way too much scrutiny.
Being a gun owner to me is about more than how many you own or how much you know about them. It's about using them responsibly and keeping them out of the hands of people who would do harm to others with your weapons.
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I tend to ignore the request not to carry unless it is actually illegal (in the law) to carry into the location (courthouse, police station, secure area of the airport etc). Worst case, if they figure out you have one, they will ask you to leave and you can leave. Worst case is you might get a trespass filed, so what.
Leaving a gun in the car in a parking lot has a set of risks involved with it to.
Leaving a gun in the car in a parking lot has a set of risks involved with it to.
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Cpl Tom Surdi In the state of Florida there are only 15 places that a CC permit holder can not take a firearm. Not one of those is a private business. I would just take my business elsewhere. If you must use such business, it's none of their business if you do.
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Maj John Bell
LTC (Join to see) - I'm with SSG Jason Werstak on this one. People have a first amendment right to say whatever they want. They don't have a right to say whatever they want in my living room. For the most part, Constitutional right prevent us from government control, they do not protect us from from private citizen actions. I will not do business with a "gun-free enterprise" but I respect the property owner's decision to determine what goes on his property and what does not.
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Maj John Bell - Thanks. We have different views on the Constitution. In your scenario one citizen has Rights and the other does not.
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Maj John Bell
LTC (Join to see) - Don't get me wrong. I am a strong 2nd Amendment advocate. But, I am also a strong property rights advocate. Sometimes Person A's exercise of their rights bumps into Person B's exercise of their rights.
In either case someone's rights are going to be curtailed.
Either you have a right to carry on my property, (personally, I'd let you carry all day long); and I don't have an owner's right to determine what happens on my property.
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You can carry wherever you want, except on my property.
I have a two large community parties a year on my farm every year, 300+ people. I have never thrown anyone off for carrying weapons, but I have thrown them off for foul mouth vulgarity. They have every 1st amendment right to be foul-mouthed and vulgar, just not on my property. I have some friends who will not come to these parties because people are carrying. That's too bad for them, they miss some good times, but I as the owner have the right to determine that open or concealed carry is OK. I guarantee if someone with a weapon got out of hand, especially in a way that involved their weapon, they'd be off the property. They would never come on the property again with a firearm, even without a party. But I'd never make my farm a gun-free zone. I've never had to raise an eyebrow at any of the people that carry.
In either case someone's rights are going to be curtailed.
Either you have a right to carry on my property, (personally, I'd let you carry all day long); and I don't have an owner's right to determine what happens on my property.
Or...
You can carry wherever you want, except on my property.
I have a two large community parties a year on my farm every year, 300+ people. I have never thrown anyone off for carrying weapons, but I have thrown them off for foul mouth vulgarity. They have every 1st amendment right to be foul-mouthed and vulgar, just not on my property. I have some friends who will not come to these parties because people are carrying. That's too bad for them, they miss some good times, but I as the owner have the right to determine that open or concealed carry is OK. I guarantee if someone with a weapon got out of hand, especially in a way that involved their weapon, they'd be off the property. They would never come on the property again with a firearm, even without a party. But I'd never make my farm a gun-free zone. I've never had to raise an eyebrow at any of the people that carry.
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CDR Dan Cunningham
SSG (Verify To See) - My state in the 'North-East' was the original Constitutional Carry State. Any non-felon resident, age 16 and older, can carry concealed with no permit. Anybody under age 16 needs to have a permission slip from Mom/Dad.
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I never thought about it. I mostly stay close to home and haven't yet seen a need for CCA permit. It's a valid point though, especially for those that have a need such as carrying cash and making frequent stops.
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