Posted on Apr 5, 2016
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sikh-us-army-captain-allowed-to-wear-beard-turban-in-uniform/ar-BBreEwJ?ocid=ansmsnnews11

This particular officer is a handsome example of his religion...I actually think he flatters the uniform. However, the fact that he can wear a non-military cover because he believes in a specific deity seems a compromise born deep in the bowels of Political Correctness.
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SGM Brigade Operations (S3) Sergeant Major
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The people of this religion are warriors! If it wasn't for them it is possible everyone in Britain would be speaking German or worshipping in Mosques. The headgear doesn't bother me but, I am on the fence with the beard...I am a crusty ol SGM though so I am pretty brainwashed.

At this point in the Army's evolution I don't think it really matters. I respect the willingness to serve which can't be said for many Christians or any other religion for that matter.
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TSgt Dan Kenna
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CPT Pedro Meza - your logic just made me more retarded
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1LT Michael Bowen
1LT Michael Bowen
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The reason shaving was instituted was that gas masks do not seal on a beard. At least not in World War 1. If the masks seal, then why not let a person have a beard. If they don't seal, well then we know what happens when gas is used.
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CPT John Sheridan
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I was an Old Guard soldier for four years back in the early 1980's. Most of us would walk over to Henderson Hall to get haircuts, because the PX barbers were too used to cutting hair for the HHC US Army hairballs. So, I could be pretty judgemental. My views have softened over the years though. I see value in distinctive grooming standards. Like it or not, it sets service members apart and a sense of distinctiveness is one of the key elements of esprit de corps.

I see no problem with the Captain's grooming. Reasonable accommodation for religious practices is not unreasonable. Beard trimmed short, headgear squared away, no problem. The man has plenty of ribbons, scare badges, and a combat patch. Quite frankly, I think he looks kind of badass.
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PFC Justin Matney
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SGT (Join to see) - would never see you as anything than a brother in arms!
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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If this was a Rabbi with a yamaka on, would people still be up in arms about this? I highly doubt it. What amazes me is that the flashing is on the turban. That indicates that this was well thought out. The Army didn't haphazardly say go for it. They developed a religious head gear with military insignia. I think that the gentleman looks like a proud soldier. There is nothing at all wrong with that. We join the military to serve our nation. We take an oath to support and defend the constitution. Religious freedom is part of the very first amendment. Now in a military setting, one enlisting agrees to have certain limitations put on them about their faith. The military has an obligation, when a soldier requests a grooming exemption, to verify the validity of the request. How integral to the belief system is the request? If it is not a hindrance to the uniform, or a disruption to military discipline, and it is a cornerstone of religious attire, then it should be allowed. Just because a faith is a minor religion, does not mean that its values are irrelevant. Just because their attire appears strange by certain standards, does not mean that it is not of prime importance to them.
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SGT John Robinson
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Frankly, military standards are in place for a reason and should be adhered to. If he wants to be a proud soldier, he should dress like one. I am in total disbelief that this is allowed. What next, he doesn't have to take the oath, say the pledge or whatever? This political correct stuff is BS and really lowers our standards. Headcovers, personal grooming, it all needs to be done at a high standard and adhered to. As a former Sgt in the 'old guard', I could not stand to have someone like this 'standing guard'.
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SFC Ken Heise
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Sgt Rick Orzechowski - Easy, AR-670-1
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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Sgt Rick Orzechowski - The issue of whether head covering such as a kippah is mandatory for Jews depends upon their affiliation. For Reform and Conservative Jews, there is a lot of leeway. If you're Orthodox, however, the teaching is that we keep our heads covered at all times as a sign of respect for God. I wear a black kippah that is barely noticeable.
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SGT Rob Wallach
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Sgt Rick Orzechowski - headgear is allowed to be worn indoors while underarms or when authorized by a commander .
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Actually I'd like to see more Sikhs in the service. Their diligence and honor are a gold standard. They grow up with a deep focus and respect in their faith and maintain that in what they choose to commit to. And when they commit, done deal. So if we want them, then we take what comes with them and I'd be proud to have it.

"Above is the sky of the mind, and beyond this sky is the Lord" Can't argue with that.
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SFC William Hodges
SFC William Hodges
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Just an old NCO speaking here. What happens when you are in a combat or training environment when the old dreaded Gas Gas Gas alsrm is giving? One reason for the required clean saving standards is to insure that the protective mask seals properly. CS is still used intraining, and by the way, there sre still enemies, North Korea, that we face against have chemical and biological weapons that could be employed against us. Did Senior leadership take this into consideration when allowing for this exemption? I hope that this doesn't lead to an awful unintended consiqunce.
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SGT Robert George
SGT Robert George
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I've been out of the military for a while but, my comment closely aligns with SFC William Hodges the old dreaded Gas Gas Gas alarm !!!!
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CAPT Kevin B.
CAPT Kevin B.
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The gas mask commentary has been going on for decades. That said, I would never have the cajones to tell an "operator" shaving is more important. Sure I would have been squished a long time ago if I did.
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SGT Jerrold Pesz
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I think that probably different people have different opinions as to their being a gold standard of trust and diligence. The Prime Minister of India was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards. Sort of like our secret service assassinating the president.
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