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Some people just shake their head when they see the news headlines, scroll past it, or lose their mind and share with the world. I would like to think deep down we all really do care about exposing phonies especially when they are wrongfully receiving benefits that the deserving need. There is a chain reaction that could be talked about forever on how the phonies hinder the process for veterans.
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I'm becoming more and more uncomfortable with this culture of SMs or Vets walking up to people and demanding proof of service. Lately there were two threads about 75 year old vets getting publicly humiliated by other vets. In one case the vet ( or maybe it was a soldier) wouldn't even believe the vets VA card, claiming anyone could print one out.

So that got me thinking how I would respond if someone saw me wearing either military related awards or badges on Veterans Day or say military badge related hats or Tshirts, and came up and started asking me questions. The truth is, in this day of identity theft and scams, I would probably politely tell that guy to f--k off. I sure as hell would never feel like I owe it to any stranger that walks up to me to produce my military ID card and DD214. Really, who the f--k do these people think they are?

This is the United States. I don't have to respond to "your papers please" from anybody, much less some soldier with a hair up his ass.

And as pissed as that would make me, I can't imagine how my dad would have responded when he was 75 if some twenty something "kid" walked up to him and basically demanded that he, a WWII and Korean War vet, prove to this stranger he is authorized to wear his CIB with star. Even at age 75, he would probably try and fight the guy.

So this whole blood sport of confronting and videoing and humiliating people just because they may be wearing a badge wrong has got to stop. It's unprofessional and unAmerican. As I said, I don't have to tell you where I went to basic, what Ranger School Class I was in, or anything else. It's none of your f--king business. You're a damn total stranger to me. Hell, I have no way of knowing if you are even a soldier yourself. So get out of my face and keep your vigilante bullshit away from me or my dad, or others like us. I'd rather a thousand clowns walk down the street in costume than one vet be humiliated by someone who probably hasn't served a fraction of the time the vet did.

There are laws about actually stealing goods or services by impersonating vets. Leave that to the stores. If they give military discounts to people without requiring appropriate ID cards or documentation, that's their mistake. IMO vets should stay in their lane and stop confronting people.
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PV2 Glenn E Moody
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what makes me not care is young punks coming up to older veterans giving them shit when things are way different now older veterans have awards for top secrete missions that they cant talk about ever period my time was peace time in the NATONIAL GUARD 1981 to 1987 got deployed to GERMANY for REFORGER 1985 when PRESIDENT REAGAN was butting heads with the RUSSIANS they said it was wargames we that went there think it was stand by no one knew what we are doing there no maps just officers had them orders not to talk to the locals ware we came from & going to it was easy because the powers that be didn't tell anybody except the big brass I had a 1st LT friend that we grew up together even he didn't know I personally think it was a show of force just in case RUSSIA DIDN"T BACK DOWN their ships & subs ware coming close some hitting ours there is photos of Russian ships coming close to ours in open waters saying we are to close to their waters google it I just saw videos on you- tube
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SSG Ramon Torres
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This is the back of my truck and man do I have to answer some questions. Some are just curious and some try to interrogate me about my time in service and question my tenure...and no I don't carry my DD214 everywhere I go...
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CMSgt John Owens
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Sir, I agree with you.. If they are vets asking, I guess they think they are still in and rank means a damn thing.. Those in Service, should worry more about the people under them, and help with them doing the mission.. Oh that is right, the new breed is more worried about, what community service and how many college credits they got for this quarter or EPR's, and the hell with the job they were hired by the DOD to do, AFSC/MOS/ daily job..
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SFC (Join to see) It's not that I don't care, SFC. It's that I'd rather let 10 fake fuckers wear their fake rewards, than to (wrongly) accost one single vet that was legit.
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MAJ Karen Wall
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SSG Gregg Mourizen - I do this too and it usually takes care of the problem. I'm a psych nurse, and when I was working in the civilian world, I used to be asked to go talk to a particular patient who was "claiming" to be a Veteran. I know that I could say certain things or ask certain questions and they would either know how to respond or not. It worked everytime and yes, they were all legit.
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Lt Col Stephen Wood
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SGT Bobby Mitchum - Then you would be incorrect. A veteran is anyone that has served honorably in the armed forces of the United States.
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SPC Paul Hayward
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SSG Bob Teachout - those are the ones who should be asked to show proof, the ones who are using service as a means of personal gain
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MSG Greg Kelly
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well as much as it may piss some of you off. This is the United States for awhile longer anyway. Not a communist or fascist state no one has to prove shit to anyone. if one you little cherries come start harassing me or guys like me your gonna get told to piss off. and god help you if you lay hands on me. I see an old fella wearing a hat with something on it I don't even question it I just tell them thank you for your service and if you listen and watch you will know the fakes. they will punish themselves more then you ever could
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I care, but I care more about the Constitution than my own feelings. We can't say "we're a free country, but you can't say or wear those things because it offends me." I'm just not a fan making laws that ban citizens from wearing certain symbols when there are groups of people offended by those symbols. It sounds contrary to everything we serve for.

Now if people want to expose phonies, I'm all for it. Let them be judged by the public.

When it comes to fraud, there are plenty of existing fraud laws to cover those cases. Those who commit fraud should be prosecuted under fraud laws.
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Sgt Robert Lombard
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Sgt Georgia Smith - Hey, I don't have to be smart, only handsome. Well, and 40 years younger.
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1stSgt Timothy Phillips
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I have never been accosted by anyone claiming that I am not a vet. However, I have met lots of people who claim to be vets whose stories don't stack up. I also was in Vietnam with two enlisted Marines who were abject cowards. Both of them happened to be in charge of me and I had to take over from them when they hid and run the platoon. One of them does not come to reunions, but another one does. The only reason that those of us who know he is a coward have not confronted him is because he has a wonderful wife who has no idea that her husband is a fraud. He talks a big game about Vietnam, but we know he did nothing but hide in Vietnam.
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Ok idiot. Make everybody put up with your patchy confederate flags hanging off of your daddy's mud runners but refuse tolerate people who won't change their views to appease your selfish bigoted ignorant hairy ass.
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MSG Greg Kelly
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1stSgt Timothy Phillips - Damn 1SG don't beat around the bush or nothing tell us how you really feel about those guys. LOL I had an NCOIC like that in Iraq
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