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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Training may have to be adjusted to meet new tactics and/or environments but fitness both physical and mental should not be compromised.
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LTC Jeff Shearer
LTC Jeff Shearer
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Charlie I am all about change even things that seem a little out there but this is not an area that should be compromised. I could write volumes of why you should not just from personal experience but I will spare everyone my butchering of the English language.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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I'm always concerned about responding on topics that exceed my experience level...but I do have "gut feelings" on this I'll risk sharing.

When I first joined the Military, my sense of it was that anyone who was going to try to be a SEAL, SF, etc. was already way ahead of the pack, and would be drawn from a very small pool I had no expectation of swimming in (the joke then was that it would be "easier" to join the NFL). One of my friends at USNA made it...and frankly, there wasn't anyone who expected anything less; he was just that far ahead of the rest of us in those abilities from Day 1. I never felt "less", or somehow a part of the "second string"...I was simply the "average" among a group that had already proven themselves "above average" when compared to everyone in my generation who wasn't wearing a uniform. They did their thing...we did ours.

I soon learned that's a pretty common "peacetime" mentality, or by exponent...one that evolves in conventional warfare.

Twenty years later, there about; I see it a bit differently. We've been fighting a "special operations" war since 2001. The people who do the heavy lifting (combat related, that is) are, for the most part, all ground combatants. The Taliban doesn't have an air force, and ISIS doesn't have a Navy. Sure, there's always air support tasking, maritime interdiction operations (not to mention Iran and North Korea), personnel indirectly attached, etc., and the risks involved...but let's be brutally honest: the "infantryman" is the base on which a pyramid of progressively more challenging direct strategies and tactics have been developing of late.

In that sense, I think the "base" has to be significantly large enough to support the weight of those continued operations. As you go up these "tiers", from Infantry, to "elite" Airborne, Ranger qualified, Ranger Regiment, SF, Delta...the numbers shrink to a point that the pinnacle of that pyramid-i.e. your most capable and qualified, are by necessity, a rare commodity. Sometimes, it sounds like what's wanted is to invert the pyramid, and create enough of these truly elite warriors to carry more of the load that would logically be carried by larger "tiers"...so what gives?

My sense of it is that what we're really talking about is public and international perception of just what exactly a "just war" is. I have little doubt that an Infantry division, supported by combined arms and the rest of the branches, could lay waste to a ground enemy of any pedigree. Our training, equipment, funding, and mindset are superior in many measurable ways to anyone else on the table. Trouble is...we can't fight a "total war" any longer. An "operator" possesses skill sets that permit "surgical" interventions, "limited" war, and counter-insurgency.

To my mind, the real problem is that political and even strategic and tactical leadership are over-tasking, and perhaps misusing these elite of the elite forces in an effort to reduce collateral damage, high casualties, etc. This creates a need that cannot be filled under the current model (operational problem), which leads to the temptation to adjust the pipeline to meet the need (a cultural problem).

At the end of the day, I think the solution is glaringly obvious, infinitely more practical, economical, and even acceptable to all involved...increase the standards for the lower, larger tiers of the pyramid. SF's stock in trade is building fighting forces from the ground up. Why can't these truly elite warriors be selectively placed in leadership roles at all levels to instill a higher level of competency within the Infantry? If that standard is increased even slightly, could we not then find ways of swelling the ranks of conventional forces under more difficult...but noticeably "less" challenging standards than those expected of special operations personnel? Wouldn't this only serve to increase the pride of conventional units while preserving the status of those in the top tiers of operations?

From my own humble experiences, it is possible to harden a weaker link in a chain...it's unwise to start building a chain comprised of weaker links. Just my $.02.
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I think we are starting to see some of the outcomes of decisions and directions undertaken by the previous administration. Obama saw more joint operations and using smaller teams for more surgical strikes and a huge drawdown if forces. What ended up being a by product of this model was “do more with less”. Now we don’t have enough numbers in the special forces pipeline to meet the current and projected needs of the force globally (per the article not my opinion). So I can see the argument that we change the training so we have an elite fighting force that can leave the course and then move on for further theater specific training. This isn’t that crazy of an idea. We already have specialized schools for mountain training, Arctic training, jungle training etc.

The issue it seems to me is several folks don’t like a tradition being messed with in terms of how a school is conducted and what standards there are. I get it. You were special forces in period X and you did it this way. Awesome. Guess what? Just because you did something that way doesn’t mean that’s what is going to work now. It’s the same horrible phrase of when you ask someone why they do something they say “well that’s the way we’ve always done it!” Take special forces training and insert the ACFT instead of the APFT and we have the same arguments back and forth.

I will always place the mission first
I will never accept defeat
I will never quit

Sometimes to complete those 3 important things you have to adapt and evolve.

I mean no disrespect to anyone past present or future who gets their special forces training. I know personally I don’t have the endurance or tenacity to attain such a high prize, but then again I also know my lane in the Army and I’m fine with it.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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MAJ (Join to see) Except "do more with less" was an official slogan in the post Vietnam draw down, not just because of Obama model.
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After working nearly 10 years in government service “do more with less” should really just be the slogan or mission statement for most departments.

We’ve done so much with so little for so long we can now do anything with nothing.

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Excellent information! I agree with the fact the Military needs to make technological changes due to the advanced technology of today! However; Special Forces are just THAT: SPECIAL FORCES! Some things may need to be adjusted, but the Course is designed to weed out the weak, which is necessary to ensure the success of these Elite Groups within all Branches of the Military! Just my two cents!
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