Posted on Mar 18, 2021
Army won't return medals to Green Beret Trump pardoned for killing suspected bomb maker
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The board says he earned the medals, but refuse to re-instate them. Is this fair? Thoughts?
Army won't return medals to Green Beret Trump pardoned for killing suspected bomb maker
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Posted 3 y ago
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Posted 3 y ago
Just because you earn a tab doesn't mean you get to keep it. You are expected to uphold certain standards of conduct. I earned my Ranger Tab 20 years ago and I could still be stripped of my tab today if I did something to bring disgrace to the Army. It is exactly the same for the Special Forces Tab as well. Tab Revocations happen all the time. I saw one at the last SF unit I worked at, the guy just had a history of serial misconduct. But his chain of command felt that he no longer represented the Regiment as a Special Forces Soldier.
There is no question that this team commander did what he was accused of. He admitted to it in an interview with a Fox News anchor. If the Special Forces Regiment feels that his actions are contrary to their value system then they are eligible, maybe even obligated, to strip him of his tab. Failing to strip him of his tab would be viewed as supporting his actions and could encourage other Special Forces Soldiers to believe that no harm will come if they do something similar, or at the very least that the Regiment will not treat it severely.
There is no question that this team commander did what he was accused of. He admitted to it in an interview with a Fox News anchor. If the Special Forces Regiment feels that his actions are contrary to their value system then they are eligible, maybe even obligated, to strip him of his tab. Failing to strip him of his tab would be viewed as supporting his actions and could encourage other Special Forces Soldiers to believe that no harm will come if they do something similar, or at the very least that the Regiment will not treat it severely.
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SGT Javier Silva we do know, because if the former president had ordered the return of the awards, and that was within his power, then they would have been returned. The previous president was issuing order and pardons that have been fully executed literally hours prior to the end of his term
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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SGT Javier Silva - Pardoned doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means that it happened, but his punishment is being commuted. The act of pardoning actually confirms his guilt, as guilt is a legal prerequisite to a pardon.
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SGT Javier Silva
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SFC Michael Hasbun - Pardon does not mean commuted. Manning's sentence was commuted.
https://clemency.com/pardon-vs-commutation-what-is-the-difference-between-a-pardon-and-a-commutation
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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SGT Javier Silva I'm glad you posted that, because there's a very important section in there..
"a presidential pardon is normally granted after a person has served his or her sentence. A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and typically is granted in recognition of the pardon applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime he or she committed. "
"a presidential pardon is normally granted after a person has served his or her sentence. A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and typically is granted in recognition of the pardon applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime he or she committed. "
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Posted 3 y ago
He disgraced the uniform and his unit. 'nuff said!
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Yeah, commiting war crimes tends to have some consequences...
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