Posted on Oct 27, 2020
PV2 John Davis
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I wrote statements and scrounged up a couple college credits to make myself more appealing and now my recruiter has everything submitted. 1SG told me it goes to a 4 star for approval. My limited research shows it goes to the Director of Military Personnel Management as an exception to policy rather than a waiver, if there is any difference.

I also need an RE3 waiver for PT failure. I passed two APFT's and scored high on the OPAT. The RE3 was submitted but kicked back because the age waiver needs to go through first apparently. The station commander said I have a "10% chance the age waiver goes through". There's my situation up to this point. Anyone have more insight or information? Am I wrong to be thinking this is too high of a mountain here?
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SFC Dan Thomsen
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Does the age waiver address the APFT RE:3 code at all? If not the age waiver is favorable. Usually a LTC or COL will be the one reviewing your final packet that works for the 4 star. If you get the age waiver, your packet for RE:3 waiver due to consecutive APFT failures needs to be detailed and honest to what was happening in your life and reasons you at that time in your life could not achieve the standards. Next what you have done since to never be in that situation again. Lastly, proof you are not that guy anymore ...that starts with those APFT passing scores with high results in each event.
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PV2 John Davis
PV2 John Davis
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Thank you, SFC Thomsen. It goes to the LTC at USAREC and not Personnel Management? My understanding is that the waivers are separate and one doesn't address the other. My statements only address each separate issue, joining late in life and why I failed/how I improved. If you mean did my age cause the APFT failure? Then no and I'd be happy to explain further. An officer called me and asked me about the RE3 and my written statement. He said he'd recommend the waiver and I'd be speaking to his own boss next. A week later my recruiter said they sent the wrong waiver and it needed to be the age waiver first. Knowing this waiver is rare, I wonder if "the wrong waiver was sent", is the beginning of, "I said 10% chance, and we can't help you"?
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SFC Dan Thomsen
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PV2 John Davis - No it will be addressed to Personnel Management but it will be reviewed and signed(most likely) by a LTC or COL for the General who has responsibility. Correct one doesn't normally speak of the other unless they crossed by the required information being attached showing it. There is no technical requirement to send waivers in a certain order but it may be that they don't want to send a packet forward without having everything already squared away so they don't have to call it back and be noticed as someone who doesn't send quality packets.
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PV2 John Davis
PV2 John Davis
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Got it SFC Thomsen, since they don't cross, the age waiver is favorable. Thank you for clarifying and bringing some hope to my situation.
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PV2 John Davis
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SFC Dan Thomsen - Just an update. The age ETP was denied at the USAREC level with no reason given. Not sure if they essentially are Personnel Management but regardless, it never made it past USAREC. Thanks again for your help.
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