Posted on Oct 7, 2015
Did you know There Are Women Who Can Outperform Many Men In The Infantry. Get Over It?
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Did you know There Are Women Who Can Outperform Many Men In The Infantry. Get Over It?
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http://taskandpurpose.com/women-can-outperform-many-men-infantry-get/
A combat arms officer counters the arguments for why women should be kept out of infantry units.
If you thought the Marine Corps gender integration study would end the debate on women in the infantry, then you’d be wrong. The debate is more contentious than ever. Those who have tried to question the study’s methodology have encountered anchoring bias: It doesn’t matter what’s true; it only matters what gets passed off as truth first. The headlines said that all-male combat units outperformed mixed-gender units; therefore, women should be kept out of the infantry. However, viewed from another perspective, the study’s data reveals that some women performed better than some men and it’s time the military community seriously consider those implications.
RP Members what is your take on this article? Be professional! It's a debate question for opinions, not bashing!
http://taskandpurpose.com/women-can-outperform-many-men-infantry-get/
A combat arms officer counters the arguments for why women should be kept out of infantry units.
If you thought the Marine Corps gender integration study would end the debate on women in the infantry, then you’d be wrong. The debate is more contentious than ever. Those who have tried to question the study’s methodology have encountered anchoring bias: It doesn’t matter what’s true; it only matters what gets passed off as truth first. The headlines said that all-male combat units outperformed mixed-gender units; therefore, women should be kept out of the infantry. However, viewed from another perspective, the study’s data reveals that some women performed better than some men and it’s time the military community seriously consider those implications.
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Unfortunately we aren't studying individuals. We're studying classes of people. AND we're still waiting on the final report.
We knew there was going to be overlap. That was never really a question. Capability was never really a question either. Whether integration would be detrimental to mission, and detrimental to classes of people... that was.
It's a good article, but it misses the point, and it's lacking the final analysis to be able to really talk to the Injury issue, which is something that MUST be addressed.
There's never been a doubt whether we could take 100 women, get a 40% pass rate (historical) through the MOS producing school. Then we see X% injury rate "pre-deployment," then head to a combat situation. Whereas we take 100 men, get a 95%+ pass rate (historical), with a significantly lower injury rate pre-deployment then head to a combat situation.
From an "economic" standpoint it costs 2-4 times as much to train one class of people as it does for another. "The juice isn't worth the squeeze" and that's "if" combat effectiveness is not adversely effected at all.
And I'm 100% on with opening all billets, IF IT MAKES SENSE. But I can't in good faith injure Marines at this level.
We knew there was going to be overlap. That was never really a question. Capability was never really a question either. Whether integration would be detrimental to mission, and detrimental to classes of people... that was.
It's a good article, but it misses the point, and it's lacking the final analysis to be able to really talk to the Injury issue, which is something that MUST be addressed.
There's never been a doubt whether we could take 100 women, get a 40% pass rate (historical) through the MOS producing school. Then we see X% injury rate "pre-deployment," then head to a combat situation. Whereas we take 100 men, get a 95%+ pass rate (historical), with a significantly lower injury rate pre-deployment then head to a combat situation.
From an "economic" standpoint it costs 2-4 times as much to train one class of people as it does for another. "The juice isn't worth the squeeze" and that's "if" combat effectiveness is not adversely effected at all.
And I'm 100% on with opening all billets, IF IT MAKES SENSE. But I can't in good faith injure Marines at this level.
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There are exceptional women to be sure, but is this a reasonable expectation upon which to base policy? What are the reasonable expectations of the force as a whole?
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