Posted on Oct 8, 2015
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Whether it's readiness training, daily physical fitness or job-specific tasks, which service truly puts themselves to the grind harder? How do we measure the athleticism in the services? Being a Soldier, I go with the Army overall being the toughest in the long haul with the Marines being tougher for the short careerist. The Navy have the Navy Seals which is by far the toughest of elite forces, but Air Force requires phenomenal feats of individual physical fitness to fly the jets. Finally, I want nothing to do with guarding our coast lines and fighting drug trafficking and illegal smuggling all alone in the deep dark waters of our shores. I think this is tough, but I am going with Army.
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SCPO David Lockwood
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I would have to go with the Marines.
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Sgt Andrew Zapf
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I wouldn't so much as base it on toughness. Rather specific mission capability and readiness. Every service helps out as a whole and has different standards in order to keep what each service needs in retaining it's fine men and woman. Some services are more physical than others.
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Sgt Andrew Zapf
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To finish my comment I would have to say The Marine Corps. Not just saying that as a Marine.
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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The Marine Corps, hands down. I don't know any other service that will question and process a person for "looking" fat. Which I agree with doing.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGM Steve Wettstein
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LCDR (Join to see) I did that as a 1SG Sir. It's all about having support from your higher CoC. Which I did, that and a lot of counselings.
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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SGM Steve Wettstein glad to hear it. It's hard in most services to process someone out. What I will say though is if the BCA is correctly administered it usually does the job.

As a side note, the Navy one is changing. They are adding a flat 39 inch waist measurement, that if you make, you pass. I believe the Air Force had this already?
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SSgt Aerospace Medical Service
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The Air Force does indeed have a flat 39" waist requirement. A waist measurement of 35 or under gets max points on the PFT. Anything over 39" is a component failure, and subsequently the entire PFT is a fail regardless of the other components (run/pushup/situp).
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MAJ Raymond Haynes
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The Marine Corps has always been able to process a individual for "Military Appearance" no matter what the Height/Weight scales say. I have also heard the rumor for some time that an individual can be denied a Marine Commission if they are classified as excessively ugly in physical appearance. Is there anybody who has served as a OSO or in HQMC personnel who can shed any light on this rumor? During my time in the Corps I have had the honor of knowing some outstanding Marines who were some ugly SOB's.
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