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I just read this article about officer promotions and how they should be based on merit more than seniority. I say it is about damn time. I have seen some officers that should have never made it to CPT, some of which I see here. Currently, promotion to CPT is pretty much treated like promotion to SPC. If you just don’t mess up horribly you will get CPT. It doesn’t matter much or what you have done. More than 90% of LTs make CPT. That is foolish at best. It just stumps me how the military placed that much trust in them to be a CPT. But for too long it didn’t matter what you did. I recall when I was eager to make CPT. I wasn't the most senior LT but I had the most training and qualifications. I was in the Guard but I was on par with my active duty component officers when it came to professional military education. So I got to see others pick up CPT simply to their seniority to me in being a 1LT. I still don’t understand how that makes them a better leader. When I asked why I got an answer saying that it wasn’t my time. WTF, so for the past few years I went to all the right schools and volunteered for anything they needed only to get, “it’s not your turn so you have to go back in line.” You could imagine how pissed I was. I couldn’t take it much more. After I got CPT, without a command I was done. I didn't want to play their stupid games anymore.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/09/secdefs-personnel-reforms-aim-reshape-officer-career-tracks/85660638/
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/09/secdefs-personnel-reforms-aim-reshape-officer-career-tracks/85660638/
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Hate to burst your bubble but promotion to CPT is sort of like promotion to SPC - on purpose. Not every officer (or enlisted soldier) was meant to be a leader, like it or not, that's the truth. In fact, we don't need them all to be. Some of my best staff officers were some of my worst leaders. Their bailiwick was numbers, plans or widgets - effectively leading people was simply not heir strong suit.
Can you be denied promotion to CPT (or 1LT) for lack of ability - absolutely, I've done it a couple of times. The next thing that happens is that the officer is (usually) very quietly shuffled off to a job where he/she can't cause real damage if they screw up. CPT and MAJ are the two longest held ranks for Army officers. CPT is where the real weeding out begins. Can you lead, administer and serve as a staff weenie or were you just a good platoon leader? Do you have the real skills for leadership at the highest levels or will you be selling pharmaceuticals in 36 months? We have more CPTs than any other officer rank - in fact, if you add 2LTs, 1LTs and MAJs together, you'll get the number of CPTs we have.
Can you be denied promotion to CPT (or 1LT) for lack of ability - absolutely, I've done it a couple of times. The next thing that happens is that the officer is (usually) very quietly shuffled off to a job where he/she can't cause real damage if they screw up. CPT and MAJ are the two longest held ranks for Army officers. CPT is where the real weeding out begins. Can you lead, administer and serve as a staff weenie or were you just a good platoon leader? Do you have the real skills for leadership at the highest levels or will you be selling pharmaceuticals in 36 months? We have more CPTs than any other officer rank - in fact, if you add 2LTs, 1LTs and MAJs together, you'll get the number of CPTs we have.
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LTC (Join to see)
And believe it or not the Pentagon (and our fabulous Sec Def) are considering appointing SENIOR officers from off the street to get what they perceive is much needed technical expertise. Last time I looked we called those folks "civilian technicians": http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/careers/2016/06/19/military-lateral-entry-force-of-the-future-ash-carter/85884998/
What they will get is chaos and disaster. No one worth he trouble would willingly give up 6 and 7 figure salaries to put up with PT belts, formations, bewildering administrivia and Sergeant Majors on the warpath...
What they will get is chaos and disaster. No one worth he trouble would willingly give up 6 and 7 figure salaries to put up with PT belts, formations, bewildering administrivia and Sergeant Majors on the warpath...
The Pentagon's controversial plan to hire military leaders off the street
The idea has interest in Congress, but critics fear it'll create a subcaste of personnel fundamentally disconnected from the traditional career force.
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1st Lt Rev David Poedel - Nope, we still recruit physicians from the private sector and bring them in as LTC or COL. I was unfortunate enough to learn this firsthand when a new Hospital Commander took command of my unit. He was a Harvard grad neurosurgeon who was provided with 13 years constructive credit, accessed as a LTC and immediately sent to OBC, then AOC, then Army War College within a year of joining. Upon completing his 'training,' he took command of a Forward Surgical Team. 3 years later, he was promoted to COL and took command of the hospital. He was an O-6 with 3 years TIG and 4 years TIS. After seeing him in action as a Commander, I made it a point to never serve with him and swiftly moved to a new assignment. He was technically proficient but tactically deadly (and arrogant).
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I'm reasonably sure there are differences in the way the Guard promotes officers and the way Active Duty promotes officers. My limited understanding comes from knowing people in the ANG, so I may be a little off base for Army Guard and Active. I think promotion in the Guard depends on unit vacancy. If your Guard unit doesn't have a slot for a CPT, then no 1LT in that unit can be promoted even if otherwise eligible. On Active Duty, you normally get promoted as a result of promotion board consideration. Promotion to Captain was automatic based on time in grade and time in service when I was on active duty. Commanders could red-line a person if they believed they didn't deserve promotion. It took something pretty bad, like a felony conviction, to get red-lined. So, yes, some 1LTs who may look like they don't deserve to make Captain will make it just by serving for a certain period of time and staying out of trouble. The number of officers promoted to any grade is based, at least in part, on the Congressionally mandated end-strength for the Service and the proportional allocation of that number to the officer grades. If the Service has a projected requirement for 2,000 new Lt Col, then only 2,000 Majors can end up with their names on the promotion list for that FY. Not sure how the Guard computes its numbers overall, but they fit into the Service totals somewhere.
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LTC Robert McKenna
The principle isn't really that different. There has to be a vacancy for an officer to be promoted into. In the active component, there is an economy of scale in that the vacancies are Army wide. In the RC its not nation wide, so there are places where there are overages and shortages of opportunity.
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You are correct. Having served in National Guard, USAR and USA units, I can confirm that there are some similarities but many differences. In each case, there has to be vacancy within the limits of established end-strength. These vacancies are created due to growth (expansion during conflict), retirements, promotions, deaths, discharges and retirements. Ideally, there are enough vacancies to promote qualified people, every year. But, the military is anything but ideal. For USAR and Active Component, there is a global personnel demand, which is broken into AC, AGR and SelRes (IRR, IMA and TPU). For the National Guard, there is minimal demand based on the State's end strength.
However, the point about what determines 'best qualified' for promotion is valid because all promotion boards only consider those 'in the zone', 'above the zone', or 'below the zone.' Best qualified is only considered after Time in Grade and Time and Service are considered. Which can be a problem.
Jack Welch, former CEO of GE wrote a great distinction about promotions and their impact on organizations. He identified workers as 'A workers,' 'B workers,' and 'C workers.' 'A' workers required little training or supervision to develop into the next CEO (Strategic, Chief of Staff of the Army, BDE Commander, etc.); 'B' workers required development and usually became specialized (Operational, Armor, Logistics, Medical, etc.) and 'C' workers required so much effort to train and supervise that 15% should be cut every year. However, if the 'A' worker does not get promoted in a timely manner (has to wait until TIG and TIS is met), they usually leave for a better opportunity, creating vacancies for 'B' workers, who lack strategic capability. After several cycles of 'A' workers departing and 'B' workers climbing above their capability, 'C' workers become the norm in the company and they determine who gets promoted. Not wanting to promote anyone better skilled than the 'C' workers in leadership, then more 'C' workers get promoted.
You will notice from above that this is a race to the bottom. In the Army, we require specific military education, assignments and time requirements to get promoted, even for the best qualified. Many highly capable people lose patience and quit while the minimally capable, patiently wait their nearly automatic promotion (because they took few career risks, made few mistakes and kept their nose clean). It isn't the best way to manage personnel but it has been the norm since 1947.
However, the point about what determines 'best qualified' for promotion is valid because all promotion boards only consider those 'in the zone', 'above the zone', or 'below the zone.' Best qualified is only considered after Time in Grade and Time and Service are considered. Which can be a problem.
Jack Welch, former CEO of GE wrote a great distinction about promotions and their impact on organizations. He identified workers as 'A workers,' 'B workers,' and 'C workers.' 'A' workers required little training or supervision to develop into the next CEO (Strategic, Chief of Staff of the Army, BDE Commander, etc.); 'B' workers required development and usually became specialized (Operational, Armor, Logistics, Medical, etc.) and 'C' workers required so much effort to train and supervise that 15% should be cut every year. However, if the 'A' worker does not get promoted in a timely manner (has to wait until TIG and TIS is met), they usually leave for a better opportunity, creating vacancies for 'B' workers, who lack strategic capability. After several cycles of 'A' workers departing and 'B' workers climbing above their capability, 'C' workers become the norm in the company and they determine who gets promoted. Not wanting to promote anyone better skilled than the 'C' workers in leadership, then more 'C' workers get promoted.
You will notice from above that this is a race to the bottom. In the Army, we require specific military education, assignments and time requirements to get promoted, even for the best qualified. Many highly capable people lose patience and quit while the minimally capable, patiently wait their nearly automatic promotion (because they took few career risks, made few mistakes and kept their nose clean). It isn't the best way to manage personnel but it has been the norm since 1947.
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I agree and disagree with your sentiments. As an Officer, you are the example set forth for the enlisted to look up to. I'd rather have an officer who knows their shit rather than one who just did their time. But in that respect, how many good officers would get screwed over because they pulled the short straw and got a crappy billet or a jacked up command post.
I'd hate to be the officer who gets passed over for promotion because I inherited an off track program.
I'd hate to be the officer who gets passed over for promotion because I inherited an off track program.
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If officers are supposed to be examples, why do they skip PT, walk around with their hands in their pockets and not one senior officer will correct them?
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MAJ Mark Wilson
SSG Paul Shim - NCOs and Soldiers can correct officers, and should. We are all human and make mistakes. I would say maintain your professional bearing and ensure you are a standard barer yourself or the message will not be well received. I learned more from NCOs and Soldiers than fellow officers during my career. Officer Basic Courses are largely taught by NCOs. NCOs should help train their officers. I had a Platoon Sergeant point out to me onetime that "You are down here for a year, maybe two. Some of us are down here our whole career."
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For an officer, you need to build a history before any evaluation of their performance (barring misconduct) is meaningful. That's why the first two promotions are automagic. Lieutenant is when the Navy starts letting officers actually compete in a meaningful way.
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It's a tough gig no matter how you cut it. Most of the junior officer courses have more civilians and contractors than military teaching them these days. I've seen good junior officers get the boot while mediocre senior officers make GO. I always appreciate the guidance from WOs and NCOs. They make me a better officer.
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