Posted on Jul 14, 2016
$15 an hour wage, what does it do to recruiting, retention, the pay chart, and other areas of our lives?
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So a PV1 under two years makes $1566.90/16= $9.79 for a 160 hr work month. Lets take $15x160 hr a month= $2400. Looking at the pay chart an E4 with 4 years is the earliest chance to get close is to make $2382 after four years.
Cuts in government spending and messing with the GI Bill, retirement, and other entitlements (BAH,TA, etc). We also don't work 160 hr/m & put our health at risk. Thoughts?
Cuts in government spending and messing with the GI Bill, retirement, and other entitlements (BAH,TA, etc). We also don't work 160 hr/m & put our health at risk. Thoughts?
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In my opinion , the wage increase will force more young workers to consider the military for a leg up. My reasoning is that the $15 wage will reduce jobs as more automation is placed in service and the only viable option will be the military.
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MSgt John McGowan
SSgt. I will agree with you. Job will be hard to find and the 15 per hour will be slow coming to small towns like I live in. Heck $15 per hour is good here for full time jobs at some of the places. High wages just isn't here in any large numbers. It would have to be a federal requirment and then our few fast food joints wold probably close.
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So I didn't want too many rabbit holes but think of this. The GS pay scale is closer to the civilian pay market. HR compares knowledge, skills, and attributes of the civilian market to the GS tables through a union. Would you expect their pay to go up... I seem to notice that they only go up in steps and in levels, that employees wont go down and jobs don't change until they are done away with after the employees moves after many many years. IF a spike happens in those jobs and the DOD budget goes way up, could we be stuck with a pay table where the PV1 <2 yrs making less then minimum wage is now their an E5 <10 yrs just getting over that hump.
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IF a spike happens in those jobs and the DOD budget goes way up, could we be stuck with a pay table where the PVT less then 2 yrs making less then minimum wage is now their an SGT less then 10 yrs just getting over that hump.
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You aren't taking into account that PV1s (and essentially everyone who lives in the barracks) do not have to pay for rent, utilities, food, and medical care.
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Yes I'm also taking into account that more new recruits asked for more money in their pockets over anything else according to a Army and Navy Times poll. Also that no overtime is paid, you typically don't live close to family or areas you know, that you only have about 100- 300 sq ft authorized and typically have to share that with someone. Medical care is partial picked up by civilian employers and all work related injuries are picked up by the employer, also you can sue those employers for damaging and dangerous work. There are many things in play. I'm focused on dollar for dollar work with this topic.
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SFC J Fullerton
SFC (Join to see) - I believe that poll to be correct for new Soldiers already in, who are stuck there and then pay becomes important to them. But I seriously don't think it does anything for the propensity to enlist in the first place. You are either interested in the military or you are not.
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SFC (Join to see) - To be fair, you didn't put a link to a poll or anything. You just posed the question.
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My first thought is that one should not serve for the sole purpose of making money. There are many benefits to take into consideration that civilians and federal employees more often than not have to pay for, Health and Dental, Life Insurance to name a few-these alone can equate to $1000.00 a moth. There are no extraneous bills associated with any form of surgery Big number. Then there is housing and chow-grade dependent, free none-the-less, $800.00 to $2000.00+. The next thing to discuss is that Service members do not have to count on sick leave, for sick-call, bedrest etc. Convalescing in not counted against leave. You get 30 days of regular leave from the get go, most employers start at two weeks. Not to mention your work clothes are paid for. There is more but I do not wish to drone on.
While I admit that many of the benefits I experienced are different for you, they still far and away exceed that of the private sector. As I said up front, you should be serving out of a sense of Duty and Honor, not the money, but it is not all bad.
While I admit that many of the benefits I experienced are different for you, they still far and away exceed that of the private sector. As I said up front, you should be serving out of a sense of Duty and Honor, not the money, but it is not all bad.
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