Posted on Apr 8, 2017
What are the career expectations of a WO1 who gets a GOMOR?
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Edited 7 y ago
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If it's placed in someone's local file, then they can probably overcome it. If it goes into their permanent file, I suspect that will be a career-ender.
At lower levels, with higher promotion rates (CW2, CPT and MAJ), promotion boards look for people NOT to promote. It's simply easier to find the handful of people at the bad end of the distribution. Any red flag that appears within the file is like a beacon to the board members. A GOMOR is one of those beacons. At higher levels (CW3, LTC and above), with lower promotion rates, promotion boards are at the other end of the distribution. It's simply easier to find the studs and studettes. They are looking for those things within the record that distinguish people favorably (outstanding ratings, key jobs, key schools, deployments, key connections, etc.).
Unfortunately, the bottom line is that if it goes into someone's permanent file, I can't think of a scenario where they can have a successful career. The GOMOR will continue to haunt them at every board opportunity (schooling, promotions, etc.).
At lower levels, with higher promotion rates (CW2, CPT and MAJ), promotion boards look for people NOT to promote. It's simply easier to find the handful of people at the bad end of the distribution. Any red flag that appears within the file is like a beacon to the board members. A GOMOR is one of those beacons. At higher levels (CW3, LTC and above), with lower promotion rates, promotion boards are at the other end of the distribution. It's simply easier to find the studs and studettes. They are looking for those things within the record that distinguish people favorably (outstanding ratings, key jobs, key schools, deployments, key connections, etc.).
Unfortunately, the bottom line is that if it goes into someone's permanent file, I can't think of a scenario where they can have a successful career. The GOMOR will continue to haunt them at every board opportunity (schooling, promotions, etc.).
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Passed over for WO2 twice, unqualified resignation
Passed over for WO2 twice, directed to separate
I have no doubt some WO1 or 2 otherwise overcame a GOMAR...but in lot of years serving, to include the last 5 in a Div HQ I never saw one
Passed over for WO2 twice, directed to separate
I have no doubt some WO1 or 2 otherwise overcame a GOMAR...but in lot of years serving, to include the last 5 in a Div HQ I never saw one
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Just to qualify my comments I'm not an S one person not a G one so it's not like I've seen hundreds of cases in the last five years of service I personally witnessed three warrants get passed over for promotion the second time and separate all with GOMR
To W01 adultery and inappropriate relationship
W02 DUI
The W03 had a letter of recommendation from a COL and one star and still separated.
Those three personal observations or commonly referred to our referenced around others but no first-hand experience with those
So I suppose it's possible to overcome but my personal observation of a small demographic says otherwise
Just to qualify my comments I'm not an S one person not a G one so it's not like I've seen hundreds of cases in the last five years of service I personally witnessed three warrants get passed over for promotion the second time and separate all with GOMR
To W01 adultery and inappropriate relationship
W02 DUI
The W03 had a letter of recommendation from a COL and one star and still separated.
Those three personal observations or commonly referred to our referenced around others but no first-hand experience with those
So I suppose it's possible to overcome but my personal observation of a small demographic says otherwise
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SPC (Join to see)
Going Warrant is something I'm looking into down the road SGM. I know it's competitive but getting passed over can get you separated?
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COL Vincent Stoneking
SPC (Join to see) - Yes. On the Officer side, if you are passed over two years in a row (in the "primary zone" and "above the zone" looks), you can be separated. The Army will hold a "selective continuation" board concurrent with your 2nd look to determine if you are critical enough to Army to be retained, otherwise you will be gone in 6-7 months.
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I am having to make a decision on what to do for my career. At this point I have been not selected for SFC the past three boards due to items within my file (GOMAR, Relief of Cause, and Article 15 for the same offense in 2011). This is of course an assumption and right now I am thinking about pursuing a career as a Warrant Officer. I have talk with numerous individuals who think I should submit my packet. I am just wondering that if I get selected, is this issue always going to be held over my head? I really do not want to just do my 20 as a SSG knowing there will be no progression down the line.
At the same time I may take the Warrant route and risk not even making it to my 20. If I submit the waivers for the packet and they accept the issue from the get go, would they hold it against me down the line?
Just looking to get some opinions before I dive in, thank you.
At the same time I may take the Warrant route and risk not even making it to my 20. If I submit the waivers for the packet and they accept the issue from the get go, would they hold it against me down the line?
Just looking to get some opinions before I dive in, thank you.
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