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I count 4. But the clerk when I cam home said 3. Which is correct?

1st Deployment: Sep 2003-May 2004. Phase Consolidation I.
2nd Deployment: May 2006-May 2007. Phases Consolidation I and II.
3rd Deployment: May 2011-Mar 2012. Phases Consolidation III and Transition I.

ACM was not a thing on that first deployment and I was awarded the GWOT-EM. Can't count Consolidation I twice, so that's 4 stars without the GWOT-EM. Is that still true when subbing the GWOT-EM, so I have to reduce to 3? Or does it matter that I resumed the same campaign on a completely separate deployment?
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Pretty much everything right here:

https://www.hrc.army.mil/tagd/afghanistan%20campaign%20medal%20or%20iraq%20campaign%20medal

https://www.hrc.army.mil/tagd/global%20war%20on%20terrorism%20expeditionary%20medal%20gwotem%20and%20global%20war%20on%20terrorism%20service%20medal%20gwotsm

Servicemembers qualified for the GWOTEM by reasons of service before 30 April 2005, in Afghanistan and Iraq, shall remain qualified for the medal. Any such Soldier may be awarded the ACM or the ICM in lieu of the GWOTEM for such service. Additionally, any such Soldier authorized the arrowhead device may be awarded the ACM or ICM with arrowhead in lieu of the GWOTEM with arrowhead device. Soldiers that elect to receive the GWOTEM in lieu of the ACM or ICM are not authorized service stars for those campaigns in which the GWOTEM is awarded. No Soldier shall be entitled to both medals for the same act, achievement, or period of service.

"Soldiers that elect to receive the GWOTEM in lieu of the ACM or ICM are not authorized service stars for those campaigns in which the GWOTEM is awarded"

I would read that at face value. So it says campaign, not deployment. So For consolidation 1 you either get the GWOT or the ACM even though you were there twice for that campaign.
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Okay. That's a reasonable reading that had eluded me.

Thanks!
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SSgt Gregory Guina
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Since you deployed twice during Consolidation 1 I am pretty sure that you can wear the GWOT-EM for one and the AGCM for the other so I count GWOT-EM and AGCM with 4 stars MSG (Join to see)
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So do I, but the clerk was adamant. I can't find a rule that seems a clear as she seemed to think it was.
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