Posted on Jan 8, 2014
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I absolutely despise this term and tend to lose my mind when I hear people of any rank use it. Has anyone else had to deal with it and how?
I've found that counting to ten doesn't work.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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I absolutely HATE this phrase. Soldiers are SUPPOSED to check up. We are role models, examples of that they should aspire to. They are supposed to be looking at us, learning from us, emulating us. Quite frankly, if a "leader" is doing something that has them uttering this phrase, they likely are setting a horrible example.

 

This is an instant blood boiler..

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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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 i retracted this and just made a more well rounded response below...
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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That's another reason I stress writing/speech ability, grammar, attention to detail, and proper counseling with all my NCO's. Nothing gets charges thrown out faster than shoddy counseling...
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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I have been respectfully corrected on things by subordinates, and it really didn't bother me at all.  If you take it personally, you're not being professional.  The exception to this would be if the individual making the correction is being a jerk/showboat about it; then it's understandable that someone would get upset.  I have also pulled aside my superior officers a few times to make small corrections in private and they appreciated it.  My conclusion is that often times, people who are upset about being corrected are upset with HOW it is being made, not the actual infraction at hand.
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i retracted this and just made a more well rounded response below...
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CPT Keith Steinhurst
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Hmmmm - reminds me of the time I told my boss his canons were pinned on upside down - now moot in the ACU world . . .
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I agree and disagree with the varying responses. It is my opinion that people who use that phrase or lead under that mindset are poor leaders that feel they are above question. A good leader will understand that we are not perfect and occasionally need fixed. While I wholeheartedly agree that the deliver of the message is more important than the content.
I had once seen a soldier tell his PSG that they were doing a PRT exercise wrong. This PSG who loved to inform people he was once DS of the year and was tasked with teaching PRT to other DS's refused to accept that he was wrong and the soldier was right. To me that is a poor example of an NCO regardless of past accomplishments. 
I am not one of those people that is impressed with badges, medals and medallions because they are just indications of what you did for yourself, not soldiers. 
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