Posted on Oct 11, 2018
What action should be taken if soldiers are complaining about an inappropriate relationship between two Soldiers in their section?
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What action/s should be taken if the soldiers in your section are complaining about an inappropriate relation between two Soldiers in their section? One Soldier (female) is married and lives off post, the other (male) is not and lives in the barracks. These two have been missing for hours when asked to complete a task together, seen at the females off post residence (her spouse is prior service and travels for work), seen at the males barracks room he shares with another Soldier in the section. There is also talks around the shop about a SNAPCHAT video with the male Soldier with his shirt off, in the females residence. I have been informed to write a counseling on the perception of a relation between them by their section and how it is affecting moral and our mission. The female is a SPC(P) and the male is PV2. How would I word this counseling? What kind of Plan of Action should be implemented?
Adultery
Fraternization
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Have the counseling forms ready for each Soldier, then give them no notice of the counseling session. But, do it one on one so as to give them no time to prep their stories. Ensure they understand that the perception is that they are having something extra going on. And, ensure they understand that perception is everything, and can be looked as perception IS reality. Explain to them what their continued actions can lead to in regards to UCMJ. Ensure they are no longer authorized at either place of residence for any reason other than official duty purposes...and without someone with them. I would go so far as to say they will not be seen together with just themselves even when off duty. Ensure they understand that if they violate the plan of actions in any way, you will immediately recommend an investigation and/or UCMJ actions.
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- Is the Commander going to issue a no contact order?
- was the plan for you to counsel and the chain of command to,pursue UCMJ? You will need to coordinate effort.
- AR600-20 has the definition and terms of inappropriate relationships and Fraternization. If you need more detail, DA Pam 600-35. Squad Leader and a Joe...no go
- unless you have graphic and explicit evidence on the Adultery, it will be tough. That is why it needs to be coordinated. The Commander will need to engage the CJA.
- if they are not going the whole 9 on this you can counsel on the Appearance of an Adulterous relationship. MCM Article 134.
Squad Leader: the fraternization and appearance of the adulterous relationship
Joe: appearance of the adulterous relationship.
Both need a no contact order. Would recommend the Command team reassign one or both to another section. MSG (Join to see) has likely provided some good input. Here is another example http://www.armywriter.com/fraternization-counseling.htm
- was the plan for you to counsel and the chain of command to,pursue UCMJ? You will need to coordinate effort.
- AR600-20 has the definition and terms of inappropriate relationships and Fraternization. If you need more detail, DA Pam 600-35. Squad Leader and a Joe...no go
- unless you have graphic and explicit evidence on the Adultery, it will be tough. That is why it needs to be coordinated. The Commander will need to engage the CJA.
- if they are not going the whole 9 on this you can counsel on the Appearance of an Adulterous relationship. MCM Article 134.
Squad Leader: the fraternization and appearance of the adulterous relationship
Joe: appearance of the adulterous relationship.
Both need a no contact order. Would recommend the Command team reassign one or both to another section. MSG (Join to see) has likely provided some good input. Here is another example http://www.armywriter.com/fraternization-counseling.htm
Fraternization with Officers Counseling
IAW Fraternization is discouraged
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For the first time I am stumped.....I really do not know how to address this. Perception is not the word here I must say. They are definitely doing something. I would at least put in there the ramifications and the seriousness of what they are doing. Plan of action? No clue....
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Just spoke with my CDR and he says the same. Right now, it's going to be a verbal counseling and documented. We will also be calling legal to get more info on what needs done. We're trying to make sure we take the proper steps due to the affect it has had on the other Soldiers.
Honestly, I just came off of 30 days of Con-Leave to this.
Honestly, I just came off of 30 days of Con-Leave to this.
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