Posted on Dec 4, 2018
Does a person going into a 70-series AOC (with a Master’s degree) go through the Basic Training or directly to the Officer Basic Course?
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Hello everyone,
If a person is going to one of the 70 AOCs with Master’s degree, he still has to go through the Basic Training or direct to the Officer Basic training ?
One of the recruiter said it doesn’t matter what the website says, you have to go through the Basic Training. So, what to say to the recruiter? Is he right ?
If a person is going to one of the 70 AOCs with Master’s degree, he still has to go through the Basic Training or direct to the Officer Basic training ?
One of the recruiter said it doesn’t matter what the website says, you have to go through the Basic Training. So, what to say to the recruiter? Is he right ?
70D: Health Services Systems Management
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They go to Officer Basic Course. They don't do the Army's regular Basic Combat Training.
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Gurpreet Singh
Thank you sir. But, my recuriter is saying you have to go through Basic training. What I do ?
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I'm gonna give you an alternative, look at Jr and Sr COSTEP, if you'd wanna go doctoral, I'm unsure if it can be used at that level, it's the USPHS equiv of ROTC...also, USPHS does take IT and comp sci (CS) for health admin, I merely !mention it as you might not have known about it, the field might be full for now, however, I merely suggest it as a possibility you might care to consider...also, if you can, elaborate on exactly what the basters was in for you, grades, GPA, specific course titles, I was doctoral allied health till total perm disability, we shut my license off my wife and I sevl us ago, however, I might suggest various fellowships for you, esp in med/clinical informatcs at Natl Library of Med (NLM) of NIH, also, look up AFIT under USAF and Naval Postgraduate School (NPS) on Wikipedia, as well as the USUHS PhD programs, not USPHS, that's the svc offering COSTEP, USUHS is the school, NPS of seen also has grad level coursework on systems sci aspects of healthcare, however, one can normally only go there as active duty, I tried, I had a masters recommend when I'd been in, I couldn't get it, they also have an online PhD in systems science I found interesting, I merely point all those out as possibilities and avenues you might also care to glance at...and, which other svcs have you looked at, I'm assuming Army, have you looked at Navy and USAF at all, or going AGR, Guard Tech, or Reserve Tech at all? I'd just wondered, I was also elec engrg (EE), physics, and math, with heavy CS, I had a good deal of exposure to med/coin informatics, e.g., HL7, DICOM imaging formats, etc, I'd be most eager to hear more, no rush, whenever you'd have time....
I'm gonna give you an alternative, look at Jr and Sr COSTEP, if you'd wanna go doctoral, I'm unsure if it can be used at that level, it's the USPHS equiv of ROTC...also, USPHS does take IT and comp sci (CS) for health admin, I merely !mention it as you might not have known about it, the field might be full for now, however, I merely suggest it as a possibility you might care to consider...also, if you can, elaborate on exactly what the basters was in for you, grades, GPA, specific course titles, I was doctoral allied health till total perm disability, we shut my license off my wife and I sevl us ago, however, I might suggest various fellowships for you, esp in med/clinical informatcs at Natl Library of Med (NLM) of NIH, also, look up AFIT under USAF and Naval Postgraduate School (NPS) on Wikipedia, as well as the USUHS PhD programs, not USPHS, that's the svc offering COSTEP, USUHS is the school, NPS of seen also has grad level coursework on systems sci aspects of healthcare, however, one can normally only go there as active duty, I tried, I had a masters recommend when I'd been in, I couldn't get it, they also have an online PhD in systems science I found interesting, I merely point all those out as possibilities and avenues you might also care to glance at...and, which other svcs have you looked at, I'm assuming Army, have you looked at Navy and USAF at all, or going AGR, Guard Tech, or Reserve Tech at all? I'd just wondered, I was also elec engrg (EE), physics, and math, with heavy CS, I had a good deal of exposure to med/coin informatics, e.g., HL7, DICOM imaging formats, etc, I'd be most eager to hear more, no rush, whenever you'd have time....
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Gurpreet Singh
Thank you sir for the information. I would definitely look into this, especially the PHD part.
My GPA is 3.7 in MHA and 3.89 in my Bachelors in Pharmaceutical Sciences.
I look into other forces as well, but they need citizenship to go as an officer, which I am not yet, hopefully, next year.
What you can suggest me based on this Sir !
My GPA is 3.7 in MHA and 3.89 in my Bachelors in Pharmaceutical Sciences.
I look into other forces as well, but they need citizenship to go as an officer, which I am not yet, hopefully, next year.
What you can suggest me based on this Sir !
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I follow, I read everything, I expect, out having a Bach in pharm you'd at least thought about going Pharm.D., though you obviously have med informatics interests, I get that. If I were you, being as you mentioned you'd said you can't go in get, in all honesty, I'd very seriously think about trying for a dual doctorate, doing a PhD in IT with a dissertation in med informatics, as well as a Pharm.D., so you'd be st the top of the intellectual food chain, I'm assuming you'd have time, plus, USPHS has I think, a 44-y/o age limit to commission, one you'd be able, though I'd read that a good many of the nonclinical fields are full, so, if you're able to get a Pharm.D., or possibly a separate PhD in pharmacology, and get licensed as a pharmacologist, I'd also add in postdoc residency and/or fellowship to let you try for licensure in a state where pharmacists can actually prescribe off a formulary, I'd also heard some states actually have internal !ed training for doctoral level pharmacists, to let them do limited diagnostics...if you'd want PA, maybe, explicitly in pharmacology, or maybe infectious disease, those could also be potentially good fits, however, that'd obv depend on what yud ultimately want, of course. Try to elaborate on actual coursework you've taken, specific course titles, all science and/or IT/CS coursework of any kind, with grades, if you've published, I was never able, elaborate, if you have research interests, also elaborate, the fellowships in med informatics at NLM might well suit you, our GPAs are high enough that you might well have a chance for an assistantship for your PhD, regardless of major, maybe combining IT/CS with pharmacology, the pharmacy aspect, of course, only you could decide that, explain more when you can, I'd be interested in hearing more, no rush, whenever you'd be able...also, have you thought about PA, dental, podiatry, or allopathic or osteopathic med (MD/DO) at all? I was supposed to have gone dental or med before my total perm disability, that was my sole reason I was curious, explain more, as I'd said, when you have time, OK?
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If selected, you will attend AMEDD DCC - direct commission course followed by MS BOLC
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Gurpreet Singh
CPT (Join to see) Thank you.
First, I talked with my AMEDD recruiter. He said they have only 70B under them, not other 70- AOCs.
First, I talked with my AMEDD recruiter. He said they have only 70B under them, not other 70- AOCs.
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Gurpreet Singh unless something has changed, those outside of AMEDD cannot recruit 70 series for direct commission. Additionally, your chances of getting picked up as something other than a 70B is very slim as 70B is also very competitive. I had an MBA with doctoral hours, had already been in AMEDD in the Reserves for 8yrs, and still got 70B. That's the nature of the beast.
The short answer is you will attend AMEDD DCC and BOLC if you direct commission. If you go OCS, you would attend basic training, OCS, and then BOLC.
The short answer is you will attend AMEDD DCC and BOLC if you direct commission. If you go OCS, you would attend basic training, OCS, and then BOLC.
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Gurpreet Singh
CPT (Join to see) Thank you, now, I got you. So, he is saying through OCS, that’s why. Thank you.
But, don’t know why AMEDD recruiter is saying they have only 70B.
But, don’t know why AMEDD recruiter is saying they have only 70B.
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Gurpreet Singh because AMEDD recruiters have different missions every year (heck sometimes week/month) for how many of each AOC they need to recruit. A 70B is the entry level 70 series AOC and is usually the only way you can come in. The other AOCs may look for 1-2 ppl a year.
After completing BOLC and serving on the job, a 70B will then apply for any of the different AOCs as a 1LT or CPT. Keep in mind that the Army likes to train officers from within, so you should expect to come in as a 2LT 70B.
After completing BOLC and serving on the job, a 70B will then apply for any of the different AOCs as a 1LT or CPT. Keep in mind that the Army likes to train officers from within, so you should expect to come in as a 2LT 70B.
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