Posted on Dec 22, 2018
Has the Ranger department lost any credibility since the change in standards?
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I know this is a sensitive and hot button topic since the graduation of females? The department has gone dark since the first females GRADUATED.
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APFT standards haven’t changed. Isn’t just that female standards are now allowed?
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SFC Zach K. it's not a female standard they have to do. As far as I'm aware, everyone does the same number of pushups, sit-ups and 5 mile run time.
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SFC Zach K. totally different question, and I completely agree. It's pretty tough to justify if you're a guy in the Infantry and you have a female coworker who gets selected for promotion over you based on their APFT, but they can't ruck as heavy, run as fast, and aren't strong enough to carry the pig.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SFC Zach K. - Doesn't the new job based APFT address that issue? From my reading of the new test, it is no longer age or gender based, but based on the needs of you MOS. That was my objection to opening MOS's to females, although if one reads the critiques of the Israeli attempts at integrating females into line units, things like a much higher injury rate and not available to duty status has brought this second attempt under fire.
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MAJ Thomas Person "the department has gone dark..." was the RTB ever 'illuminated'? Every once in a while they issue a statement, usually pursuant to a training death or injury of students in the course, but prior to the admission of female students, they were never a PAO messaging engine.
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I think that the military as a whole has made the conscious decision to undermine standards across the board in order to make people 'feel' better. It is sad to think that such storied groups such as the Rangers would allow for the same poinson to infect their ranks but it has.
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MAJ Thomas Person
You have no idea. I have been pummeled by husbands of "graduates" on social media. All I know is that no male graduate ever went thru more than 2 boards and still get pinned. It seems that all females had a female walker with them. It seems the "walkers" had seen Rangers in action in Iraq so it qualified them as SOF or something. The commander of Benning is a qualified warrior and ass kicker in CAG. Squadron commander and was in the MOG. So it seems people with bona fides says they had no special treatment. I am still wondering with my class a 60% failure rate. I mean these were animals and they still got culled
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MSG Danny Mathers
BS on the SQDN Commander in CAG, Former CAG Officers don't go to TRADOC units unless they screwed up!
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