Posted on Mar 14, 2015
The REAL reason Veterans commit suicide...another perspective
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A recent article puts a different slant on why our veterans are commuting suicide. This rips the covers off...The final words...I love my country, but my country does not love me rips my soul from my body.(reminds me of what many of our Vietnam Vets had to look forward to)
If you have a moving story about suicide and how it impacted you, please share. Maybe it will help someone, maybe it will prevent just one, and that one will grow to two, then three.
What are we doing, not doing, standing by, marking time, resting, observing, how can we sit idly by....doing nothing, saying nothing, doing something, not doing enough...
This is powerfully emotional for me...post your comments, thoughts, bitches, complaints, let it all out brothers and sister....this shit has got to stop. We are losing too many.1 a day is too many, 22 or 23 is way, way too many.
I had a family.
I had a job.
I had a life.
I loved my country. I volunteered. I went to war. I did all the things a good man does. I was gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “I’m not happy,” she said. “I’m not either,” I thought. “At least you are not getting shot at.”
I came home. To an empty house. My boots echoed on the hardwood floors. No banners. No flag. Not even the hum of a refrigerator. The court battles. The kids gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “Daddy, don u love us anymore?” she said. “I love you more than life itself,” I thought. “At least your Mommy gets to see you.”
The economy crapped out. So did my job. I could not make the child support. I got behind in the payments. First six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “We regret to inform you…” it said. “I’m going to prison,” I thought. “Oh hell no I am not.”
Not all suicides are due to ‘traditional’ PTSD or traumatic brain injury.
There have been discussions that our soldiers of today just aren’t as ‘strong’ as soldiers of previous wars. That soldiers of previous wars didn't talk about what happened, they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and ‘soldiered’ through it. As this video illustrates very effectively, maybe the strength of the soldier has not changed, but the family dynamic has. Soldiers from previous eras had loyal wives to come home to, they had jobs to come home to, they had actually been allowed by their government to “WIN” the war, not just the battles. They came home to a country where Jesus, GOD, Christ…had not been banned. They came home to a strong foundation of GOD, family, country. They came home to America, not a place that is very quickly turning into the ‘battlefield’ they left behind. And the VA that is supposed to help them are laughing at them behind their backs, by employees like Robin Paul.
http://dcgazette.com/watch-the-real-reason-for-veterans-suicides-nauseating-and-heartbreaking/
If you have a moving story about suicide and how it impacted you, please share. Maybe it will help someone, maybe it will prevent just one, and that one will grow to two, then three.
What are we doing, not doing, standing by, marking time, resting, observing, how can we sit idly by....doing nothing, saying nothing, doing something, not doing enough...
This is powerfully emotional for me...post your comments, thoughts, bitches, complaints, let it all out brothers and sister....this shit has got to stop. We are losing too many.1 a day is too many, 22 or 23 is way, way too many.
I had a family.
I had a job.
I had a life.
I loved my country. I volunteered. I went to war. I did all the things a good man does. I was gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “I’m not happy,” she said. “I’m not either,” I thought. “At least you are not getting shot at.”
I came home. To an empty house. My boots echoed on the hardwood floors. No banners. No flag. Not even the hum of a refrigerator. The court battles. The kids gone for six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “Daddy, don u love us anymore?” she said. “I love you more than life itself,” I thought. “At least your Mommy gets to see you.”
The economy crapped out. So did my job. I could not make the child support. I got behind in the payments. First six months. Then eight months. Then fourteen. I got a letter, “We regret to inform you…” it said. “I’m going to prison,” I thought. “Oh hell no I am not.”
Not all suicides are due to ‘traditional’ PTSD or traumatic brain injury.
There have been discussions that our soldiers of today just aren’t as ‘strong’ as soldiers of previous wars. That soldiers of previous wars didn't talk about what happened, they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and ‘soldiered’ through it. As this video illustrates very effectively, maybe the strength of the soldier has not changed, but the family dynamic has. Soldiers from previous eras had loyal wives to come home to, they had jobs to come home to, they had actually been allowed by their government to “WIN” the war, not just the battles. They came home to a country where Jesus, GOD, Christ…had not been banned. They came home to a strong foundation of GOD, family, country. They came home to America, not a place that is very quickly turning into the ‘battlefield’ they left behind. And the VA that is supposed to help them are laughing at them behind their backs, by employees like Robin Paul.
http://dcgazette.com/watch-the-real-reason-for-veterans-suicides-nauseating-and-heartbreaking/
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I came home on day, walked into my house and, damn. Evan the curtain rods, soap, toilet paper, everything was gone, and I MEAN EVERYTHING!! I sat down in the floor took out my 40cal and said to my self, this is it, no wife, no kids, no nothing.....no more life. Suddenly out of nowhere I realized that it wasn't just me and her, I had a child that loved and depended on me. They were my life, she was replaceable if I needed and I needed that type of companionship, my kids were not. It was a long hard, emotional road back, but I made it with help from my God and my friends. You are never truly alone, just take the moment to say who and where do I find this help, believe me it's out there, and I am speaking from experience not some flyer that was handed out. Taking your own life is the easy way for you, but what about those who are left behind telling themselves if only you would have called they would have been there for you. Remember you will be gone, but they will have to live with it!
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
Brother, I'm glad you hung in there, just think about everyone you have touched...thanks for sharing such a personal story, wow, was this article about you?
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SFC Collin McMillion
Yeah, I'm afraid it is a true story. No one should have to go through these type of situations, but they happen. I look back now and just think how it could have ended, life is sweeter the second time around if you just give others and yourself a chance.
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Cpl Travis Senne
go to Thailand every thing will come out great.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.paulsenthorson?fref=ts
Neil Jennifer Thorson
Keep blocking me you coward. I am not afraid of you. I spent too many years being abused by you. My lawyer says if you want to go to court...lets go. But this time dont lie about your marital status, residence, etc. YOU willingly signed the papers to terminate your parental rights per Iowa Code Section 600A.8. I have a great lawyer. One can not keep rescinding their rights because they are too selfish to care for a child. Do you support your 2 daughters?? My son is already being adopted by my husband. He does not want to have your name anymore let alone anything to do with you. He has a father that fully supports him. So lets dance!!!
the boy 18 years old, and the abuses is not let her take my whole pay check.
yes she started this bs when I was in Iraq 2006 still going on.
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.paulsenthorson?fref=ts
Neil Jennifer Thorson
Keep blocking me you coward. I am not afraid of you. I spent too many years being abused by you. My lawyer says if you want to go to court...lets go. But this time dont lie about your marital status, residence, etc. YOU willingly signed the papers to terminate your parental rights per Iowa Code Section 600A.8. I have a great lawyer. One can not keep rescinding their rights because they are too selfish to care for a child. Do you support your 2 daughters?? My son is already being adopted by my husband. He does not want to have your name anymore let alone anything to do with you. He has a father that fully supports him. So lets dance!!!
the boy 18 years old, and the abuses is not let her take my whole pay check.
yes she started this bs when I was in Iraq 2006 still going on.
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Debbie Gray
Suicide passes their pain!!!
I live with it every day!
Suicide is a permanent act...
Please reach out!!! I care!
With all sincerity!
Surviving Spouse
I live with it every day!
Suicide is a permanent act...
Please reach out!!! I care!
With all sincerity!
Surviving Spouse
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It's unfortunate but what I see that drives a lot of veteran suicide is the loss of community when the soldier finally ETS. While deployed we as service members see and do things that can cause deep emotional wounding but most manage to continue on through service surrounded by those that they suffered through with. Even after PCS with a new group of soldiers you can find many who have gone through the same. A lot of times it's an unspoken connection that keeps us going.
But after ets even though the soldier may have family, it isn't the same. A possible solution I find would be encouraging VFW to work diligently to build community and should be informed or something once a soldier moves into a new VFW district.
But that wouldn't be a sure fix. I think to curb this troubling suicide rate needs to be an all personal effort. Even if it's just reaching out to soldiers over the web who are out
Just my thoughts on the matter though.
But after ets even though the soldier may have family, it isn't the same. A possible solution I find would be encouraging VFW to work diligently to build community and should be informed or something once a soldier moves into a new VFW district.
But that wouldn't be a sure fix. I think to curb this troubling suicide rate needs to be an all personal effort. Even if it's just reaching out to soldiers over the web who are out
Just my thoughts on the matter though.
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SP5 Michael Rathbun
In some ways it is like coming back from Never Never Land.
Last week you were crossing swords with pirates or having other adventures; now you are just Wendy, Michael or John.
A completely different world; here nobody knows who you are or what you have done or why you and your wisdom and instruction should be respected.
I was only in for 3, and the transition from Viet-Nam to Independence, MO was not easy (although the indoor plumbing was a real plus). I can only vaguely imagine what it might be like for my modern military siblings.
Last week you were crossing swords with pirates or having other adventures; now you are just Wendy, Michael or John.
A completely different world; here nobody knows who you are or what you have done or why you and your wisdom and instruction should be respected.
I was only in for 3, and the transition from Viet-Nam to Independence, MO was not easy (although the indoor plumbing was a real plus). I can only vaguely imagine what it might be like for my modern military siblings.
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