Posted on Apr 10, 2015
Police brutality: justified or unjustified?
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Police brutality is all over the news these days. It seems that police dont know when it is weapons free and when it is not. Is it the lack of training they have? Or is it that they are too trigger happy? Should federal officers prob police departments to see if they are training the police correctly?
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Brutality is never justified. Police use of force is often justified. Brutality is the equivalent of excessive force and cannot be justified. Deadly force is the ultimate level of force. It is rarely used given the number of citizen contacts that officers have over time. Deadly force is not necessarily excessive but is based on the totality of circumstances in an individual situation.
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I'm glad that the introduction of cellphone cameras are bringing these crimes out into the public.
I'm not anti-police, far from it. I think those who feel they are above the law should be punished, and that local police agencies should be fixing this issue thru training and a zero tolerance policy. Too many of these may have been shoved under the rug and now it's an epidemic and the public is beginning to feel it's endemic of law enforcement as a whole, which is far from the truth, but news media has put it out there on a 24 hour spin.
They need to do some serious PR and some serious house cleaning. It's their job to protect and serve their communities and hopefully, they'll weed out the bad apples and restore their image.
Do not forget that the uniformed service had issues in the 70's and we came through it with a better military.
I'm not anti-police, far from it. I think those who feel they are above the law should be punished, and that local police agencies should be fixing this issue thru training and a zero tolerance policy. Too many of these may have been shoved under the rug and now it's an epidemic and the public is beginning to feel it's endemic of law enforcement as a whole, which is far from the truth, but news media has put it out there on a 24 hour spin.
They need to do some serious PR and some serious house cleaning. It's their job to protect and serve their communities and hopefully, they'll weed out the bad apples and restore their image.
Do not forget that the uniformed service had issues in the 70's and we came through it with a better military.
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SSG Jeremy Sharp
I don't think it is anywhere close to epidemic proportions. When you consider the number of law enforcement officers working everyday and the number of public contacts that each officer has on a daily basis, then factor in that we hear of only a couple incidents a month that are truly cases of brutality or excessive force the percentage of those situations are minuscule, far less than one percent. While I am appalled by true incidents of police misconduct and feel that violators should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I realize that media sensationalism leads to the characterization of any use of force by police as brutality or excessive when the truth of the matter is that full context of the encounter is rarely given until we find out months later that video footage actually supports the actions of the officer but that is rarely reported with the same fervor that the original was. News agencies adhere to the mentality "if it bleeds, it leads" and rarely care that the slant that they portray is completely contrary to the actual events the video shows.
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Training? Is there anyone who truly thinks that there is any officer out there that thinks it is okay to shoot a fleeing unarmed suspect in the back 8 times?
This was not a result of training or lack thereof.
Why did it happen? We may never know. This I do know. I have seen many post as if they know. That too is a part of the problem.
This was not a result of training or lack thereof.
Why did it happen? We may never know. This I do know. I have seen many post as if they know. That too is a part of the problem.
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In the military we see strict rules and regulations that many civilian agencies do not include. For that reason I say training their should not be an officer with a gun if he does not know how to properly handle one in a sensitive situation. The training the police need to learn is when it is okay to have weapons free and when not to use lethal weapons such as a taser why not you a taser on the suspect is one of my primary questions.
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I appreciate to comments and views on training. My problem is that all too often the pat answer is we need training. I really wish I could remember the details but too many years have passed. We had an employee do something totally stupid and my CEO hit me with the need to train speech. I stated Sir, if you can show me ONE person in our employ who does not know that this action was wrong and should not have occurred I will say we should spend the funds to train. M point is it is simply the quick answer that all to often ignores the real problem. In this case my question is not the officer needed training, but why was he calmly shooting a person in the back? Would he have shot if the person was a different race? Is our screening process such that it allowed us to hire and arm a person that should not have been hired? etc.
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