Posted on Jul 26, 2021
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This has been a topic a few of my coworkers and I have had, regarding COVID and the inevitable mandate for the vaccine within our ranks. While I understand the likelihood of the vaccine being mandatory currently, as an emergency approval, is unlikely... eventually that will not be the case and it will be mandated. What type of separation do you think those resisting will receive?
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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It has already became quasi mandatory when commanders demand and publish policies and memos that you get it of suffer, lockdowns, loss of leave privileges, exclusion from NCOES and assorted other get or else pressure incentives. On some sites you can actually see these directives when shortsighted commander allow copies to be taken and posted. As for separations, I thing Big Army will have a hard enough time meeting retention requirements sooner if not already with the uptick of deaths in barracks, Toxic leadership running around unchecked and lack of true leadership and mentoring in the ranks. The cycle of manpower shortages is rolling around sooner than expected and any acceleration of discharges for these social experiments will just empty the ranks sooner.
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Social experiments?? What the hell are you talking about ??
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1SG Dennis Hicks
1SG Dennis Hicks
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SFC (Join to see) - anyone in for a length of time can see all the "SOCIAL Experiments, SPC Manning for one, in addition for the witch hunts for right wing extremists , the new name for conservatives. Now the Military is giving GOMARS to lower and senior enlisted of the vaccine and then booting them, so yes Social experiments. The definition of what constitutes a Social Experiment is out there.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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TLDR, not in keeping with the Great Military Social Experiment that has been going on for decades, sounds like you ignored the rest of the post to virtue signal.thanks for playing.
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CPL Brian Clouser
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Why the military or anyone else for that matter would push a rush. under-tested vaccine with who knows how many side effects belong me. Now there is some question rather the vaccine is a vaccine or a gene therapy If it's gene therapy then can't legally force troops to "take the jab" without violating the Nuremberg Code That is my 2 cent and a lot of you won't agree with me and that is fine we all entitled to our opinions
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The Coronavirus has been researched for well over a decade. This is why they were able to quickly identify the spike gene required for a vaccine. Nothing was rushed - unless you wanted to discuss the Viagra pill. Concept to FDA approval in 2 yrs. That’s what you call a rush, not something that has been researched over a decade.

The Coronavirus isn’t new. It’s been around for a long time. SARS-CoV-2 is new but it’s still part of the Coronavirus we have been researching.

Also, how many new drugs come out that we never really know all of the side effects to? What has the military given you that we don’t know all of the side effects to? The long term side effects?

I was in a PSYOPS unit and we trained with the Special Ops guys all of the time. There were plenty of volunteer opportunities to go do “you won’t know until you get there” type of things.

How many flyers do you see around some military bases asking for medical research volunteers? They are there.

Bottom line is that you don’t know what the military is giving you half of the time. And the other half I bet you never ask, you just stand in line prior to deploying and get the damn shot.
SFC Robert Falco
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Yes, researching a virus for several decades does not equate to researching a treatment regimen for said virus.
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SGT Shannon O'Connell
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SFC Robert Falco they've been researching mRNA since it was discovered in the 1960s, working on how to use it as a messenger system since the 1970s, working on flu vaccines in mice started in the 1990s, rabies vaccine trials in humans started in 2013. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines
One Google search.
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PO2 Harold Ashton
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Texas hospital chief: We're fighting two wars — One against Covid, the other against stupidity

Dr. Joseph Varon, the Chief of Critical Care at United Memorial Medical Center, describes what it is like on the front lines of the fourth wave of the Coronavirus pandemic. Texas and Florida combined account for more than one-third of new hospitalizations nationwide.

https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/texas-hospital-chief-we-re-fighting-two-wars-one-against-covid-the-other-against-stupidity [login to see] 52?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR1UnsKL9noRMzgCT20UuxcP_K7rN0TpTWGCis78nT3m5rdJuSUZPXLALY4
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Maj Gail Lofdahl
Maj Gail Lofdahl
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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”--Isaac Asimov
My sister-in-law is a doctor at a noted medical center. She and 98% of the doctors there are vaccinated for COVID-19. (The small unvaccinated percentage can't receive the vaccine for one reason or another.) Unless you believe all doctors have a "death wish," why would most of them self-vaccinate if it were harmful? Don't be stupid--get vaccinated.
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The experimental SARS-CoV-2 shots (vaccines) do not prevent the spread of the disease, and do not protect people from it. This is evident from studies in multiple countries, not anti-intellectualism. If the medical community was actually making decisions based on the data, they would stop the mandatory shots. Unfortunately, getting the COVID shots is now just a symbol of loyalty to leftist political indoctrination.
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MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow
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MAJ (Join to see) - You right in that the COVID shots "do not prevent the spread of the disease, and do not protect people from it" but, they do mitigate the symptoms and more than likely will keep you out of the hospital and off a respirator.
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The shots do not stop infections from any of the mutations of SARS-CoV-2. That is why they didn't reduce hospitalizations during the Delta variant surge. Also, the Omicron mutation is too mild to have severe adverse symptoms, so there is no reason to get the shots for it or any subsequent mutation. Furthermore, There is now evidence that the shots will have long term adverse effects due to them compromising the natural immune system.
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