Posted on Apr 6, 2014
SGT S3 Operations Nco (Fuo Ps)
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As leaders we have taken the opportunity to sit back and
denounce every new change that has come out, and complain about privates like
privates. Whatever happened to taking orders, and taking responsibility?
Soldiers are products of their leaders let us not forget that. Yes I do
understand, and even agree with a lack of personal discipline in the Army;
however, let’s be honest with ourselves for a minute. Is this really a new
issue or is it just more in the spot light now? I don’t think for a minute that
any leader had ever had a "perfect" career. So, rather than
complaining like a private use your stripes to make a difference. That’s what makes
us NCOs the backbone of the Army. Why are we always whining about new policy changes?
New 607-1... Who cares? If you were doing and enforcing the right things, not
so much has changed. I have tattoos and don’t think that there is anything
wrong with them; the "Big Army" Leaders have decided otherwise in
regards to what they deem professional. So drink water and move out!! Stop whining
publicly on social media about how your feelings are hurt!! Just my
observation. Hopefully I have, or can remind NCOs everywhere that a SGT doesn’t
whine or complain with their soldiers, they endure.



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SGM Matthew Quick
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The 'new leadership' you speak of may be the product of the loosening of standards, sometimes setting them aside completely, to raise an Army to fight and win two simultaneous wars.  These enlistees are now our NCOs.

Senior NCO's mentorship is needed now more than ever...once our middle level leaders (not all, just some) are reeled in and they start taking care of their own foxholes, everything will get back on track.

Just like any change, it'll take some time and dedicated leaders to right this ship.
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SGT S3 Operations Nco (Fuo Ps)
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I concur with your response in regards to the fact it will take time and dedicated leaders to right the ship, but I dont think that we can keep blaming everything on the war(s). I mean after we are a profession of arm. War and preparing for war is what we do.
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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SGT Baldwin,

I would recommend you read about personnel readiness when it comes to force reduction.

A quick synopsis:  When we get involved with wars (i.e., WWI, WWII, Korean, Vietnam, Gulf War, and GWOT), we have to quickly build an Army through drafts (old style) or through huge incentive packages...many people joined for the wrong reasons and hung around because it's an easier life with better benefits than outside of the military.  Many people remained because they were 'qualified' to, not because they were 'quality' Soldiers.

The Army is working to eliminate these non-conformists.
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SSG Peter Ludlum
SSG Peter Ludlum
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SGM I beg to differ, I joined for all the wrong reasons and had an awesome career. I was far from a strack soldier in the first few years but I had good mentors. I believe I left my presence in the Army through my troops who still today after a few years I still get questions and requests for my digital materials. I had soldiers who like my self joined for the wrong reasons and are now not just good soldiers but leaders. Some were these non conformists you speak of. There are a few bad apples as there have always been, but most can be trained and mentored to be productive members. These are our brothers and sisters. Kicking them to the curb is giving up and failing our soldiers. I mean no disrespect SGM Quick just my 2 cents and almost 3 decades of service. Semper Fi
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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NCOs are the backbone of the Army.  Our mission is the accomplishment of our mission and the welfare of our Soldiers.  We are expected to adhere to and enforce standards and we mentor others.
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They got promoted.
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SSG Peter Ludlum
SSG Peter Ludlum
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04.05.13 keep it simple
Political correctness. We spend more time making regs we forget to enforce the ones we already have. Mentoring is left to NCOES and not action of the next level. I am a product of the non VOLAR leadership. My mentors were draftee's from Vietnam era. Not all but most of the draftee's that stayed were great mentors. Before someone blasts me about old school crap the Army evolved. Well that is not true, the Army has devolved. It is filled with book smart but no common sense leaders. We need the old KISS method of running the military and keep the pol's out of our business. Again just my 2 cents worth.  
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