Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 125228 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>By now you have likely seen the conspiracies of secret camps and military exercises training in American cities. I've seen a lot of folks speculating that if the "power went out" the military would be taking to the streets to maintain order. As active serving military, leaders and NCOs, what are your thoughts on these topics? What would you say to these theories? America vs America? 2014-05-12T20:57:59-04:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 125228 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>By now you have likely seen the conspiracies of secret camps and military exercises training in American cities. I've seen a lot of folks speculating that if the "power went out" the military would be taking to the streets to maintain order. As active serving military, leaders and NCOs, what are your thoughts on these topics? What would you say to these theories? America vs America? 2014-05-12T20:57:59-04:00 2014-05-12T20:57:59-04:00 Cpl Robert Clark 125542 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>support your local state militia. Response by Cpl Robert Clark made May 13 at 2014 8:11 AM 2014-05-13T08:11:44-04:00 2014-05-13T08:11:44-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 125679 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I find it hard to believe that in this day and age with the advent of social media, that any kind of camp could be kept a secret. I have heard plenty of the conspiracy theory stuff. I used to have a fellow PSG that followed the conspiracy theory stuff to the extreme. <br /><br />As far as the training with civilian law enforcement and emergency responders goes under HR 5122, signed into law on 17 October 2006,<br /><br />Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." It provided that:<br /><br /> The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[6]<br /><br />So could the President suspend Posse Comitatus Act and operate under the auspices of HR 5122, sure would it be a hard sale to get through Congress, you bet. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2014 11:01 AM 2014-05-13T11:01:51-04:00 2014-05-13T11:01:51-04:00 SGT Mark Sullivan 492213 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think some of these theories are far fetched, and many times these people are over-reaching to prove their point. When you see picture of HMMWVS in the Ambulance configuration on railcars with the Crescent Moon emblem on them, some people panic and scream conspiracy. I have to ask, isn't Turkey an Ally? or any other Muslim nation, and the Crescent Moon is a Red Cross in those nations. When I hear or read about someone freaking out about Tanks on Railcars, I have to explain, that when a Unit deploys anywhere in the world, they move from their bases within the United States, to their port of debarkation via rail, thus they do not take up road space, or destroy roadway that is meant for Cars or Trucks. And of course the fastest way to move Military Equipment en-mass is via rail. Saw a video once where these people flipped out, because all these Vehicles, Tanks, and APC's were on Rail Cars in California. turns out they were less than 10 miles from NTC, and the Unit was deploying back to their home base. People really are sheep, and will be afraid of things they could never understand Response by SGT Mark Sullivan made Feb 22 at 2015 11:24 PM 2015-02-22T23:24:24-05:00 2015-02-22T23:24:24-05:00 Capt Jeff S. 505241 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm not AD, but a lot of what's out there is conspiracy theory. Now with that said, there is usually a shred of truth buried in every conspiracy theory -- just enough to make it believable. <br /><br />The truth is that we ARE building a data facility out West with Zetabytes of storage capacity. That's enough to maintain an active dossier for every person on the planet! For what purpose is that needed when this country is trillions of dollars in debt? Is that the best use of our taxpayer dollars? <br /><br />The truth is that the gov't has built/is building? detention facilities out in the middle of nowhere. For what purpose? It doesn't make sense that we would ship illegals inland to these facilities when we could for the same expense, ship them back to the border. <br /><br />I don't know why our gov't feels a need to decide what's best for We The People who elect our leaders when the majority of the public says we don't want something:<br />- like borrowing more money from the Federal Reserve and foreign countries to pay for the out of control spending of our Congress, the cost of which is being passed on to future generations... <br />- like a militarized police force... <br />- like gun control laws that keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens...<br />- like warrantless invasion of our privacy...<br />- like Obamacare!<br /><br />Americans are the most divided they have ever been in this country's history. Our great uniter has been the greatest race-baiting divider this nation has ever had the misfortune to trust with our votes. <br /><br />America is long overdue a return to the kind of leadership that founded this country. One that placed a high value on individual responsibility and personal accountability, which are so lacking in today's leadership. Those we elect to represent us are but a reflection of ourselves. We have a lot of soul searching to do. Are we to go the route every democratically elected gov't that has preceded ours has gone? Or will we learn from the mistakes of history and vow not to repeat them?<br /><br />I trust our military leaders have learned from the mistakes of history (such as those made at Kent State by our National Guard), and that they would be on the side of the people (should our gov't leaders get too big for their britches. forget who elected them and fail to do what they were sent to Washington to do -- i.e., represent the PEOPLE's interest!) <br /><br />WE THE PEOPLE hire our elected officials by electing them to office. WE THE PEOPLE pay their salaries with our hard-earned tax dollars. WE do NOT exist to serve them; THEY ANSWER TO US! Response by Capt Jeff S. made Mar 1 at 2015 3:22 PM 2015-03-01T15:22:53-05:00 2015-03-01T15:22:53-05:00 MSgt Michelle Mondia 512674 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can see why some folks get creeped out...<br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control <br />of highways and seaports. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to seize and control the communication media. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, <br />fuels and minerals. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including <br />personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all <br />highways, seaports, and waterways. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under <br />government supervision. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare <br />functions. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 <br /> <br /><br />designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all <br />persons. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and <br />aircraft, including commercial aircraft. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate <br />communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be <br />abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 <br /> <br /><br />allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public <br />storage facilities. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 <br /> <br /><br />specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives <br />authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased <br />international tensions and economic or financial crisis. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 <br /> <br /><br />grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out <br />in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial <br />and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and <br />correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 <br /> <br /><br />assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and <br />agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen <br />year period. <br /> <br /><br />EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 <br /> <br /><br />allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to <br />establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of <br />energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. <br />financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides <br />that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress <br />cannot review the action for six months. Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Mar 4 at 2015 11:04 PM 2015-03-04T23:04:28-05:00 2015-03-04T23:04:28-05:00 SPC David Hannaman 797999 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'd say the people who worry about secret concentration camps are worried about the wrong things.<br /><br />Yes, the government is getting more and more intrusive into personal liberties, and we already "store" 1% of our population in prisons at a huge expense, many many of which pose no real threat to society.<br /><br />However, we are far from independent from government control, how much of the population would survive a month without the power grid, gasoline supply, access to banking, tap water, and Wal-Mart? I'm sure the "preppers" think they can build themselves an independent life, and maybe they can if the rule of law totally breaks down, but honestly I don't see a "Walking Dead" or "Mad Max" scenario ever happening. Response by SPC David Hannaman made Jul 7 at 2015 4:57 PM 2015-07-07T16:57:50-04:00 2015-07-07T16:57:50-04:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 800873 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NORTHCOM and Homeland Security are responsible for natural and man made disasters. The tasks are huge and coordination is key to success or mitigation. Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jul 8 at 2015 4:11 PM 2015-07-08T16:11:42-04:00 2015-07-08T16:11:42-04:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 869923 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this is an old topic (and I'm not AD either)... I apologize for unintentionally "bumping" the thread too... But I just wanted to add my thoughts here...<br /><br />Conspiracy nuts are going to do what conspiracy nuts are going to do... So we see military aircraft/ vehicles, etc. operating within the US... So what? Where else are they to conduct exercises? Does this always point to an underhanded attempt by our government to establish marshal law and put Americans under the boot of the military? Absolutely not.<br /><br />The reality is, the National Guard is called in at times of emergency... That's exactly what would happen. Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2015 1:45 PM 2015-08-06T13:45:31-04:00 2015-08-06T13:45:31-04:00 PFC Jerry Bruce 1166767 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>YOU ARE 100% CORRECT.. REMINDS ME OF THE STORY OF THE AMERICANS &amp; THE INDIANS.. AMERICANS SIGNED TREATY AFTER TREATY WITH THE INDIANS,,, THEN BROKE EVERY ONE OF THEM. THEN WE CHEATED THEM, WE KILLED THEM, WE STOLED FROM THEM, WE LIED TO THEM,,,,, TILL WE WON....... NOW... IT IS OUR TURN TO BE THE INDIAN----- FOR HERE COMES THE MUSLIMS,,,, SAME SCENE.... JUST DIFFERENT PLAYERS... WILL WE NEVER LEARN THAT HISTORY REPEATS ITS SELF???? Response by PFC Jerry Bruce made Dec 10 at 2015 9:10 PM 2015-12-10T21:10:46-05:00 2015-12-10T21:10:46-05:00 PFC Jerry Bruce 1167050 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>WITH Obama IN CONTROL, I WOULD LOOK CAREFULLY AT CONSPERISY POSSIBILITIES, FOR HE HAS SHOWN HE IS A LIAR &amp; CANNOT BE TRUSTED. HE THINKS TOO MUCH OF THE Muslim WORLD... Response by PFC Jerry Bruce made Dec 10 at 2015 10:46 PM 2015-12-10T22:46:52-05:00 2015-12-10T22:46:52-05:00 Capt John Schmitt 1381341 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Jade Helm shut down the internet, cell phones, and cable services for about six hours in the area of operations south west of Chicago. They stopped short of the rolling blackouts, that was already previously tested. Don't have any confirmed UN actions outside of DOD bases. The active Military would need the approval of the Governor to deploy off of federal bases. This is currently thought to be pre-approved in Democrat run states. All veterans should check in with you're local militia for up to date information. Response by Capt John Schmitt made Mar 15 at 2016 2:55 PM 2016-03-15T14:55:46-04:00 2016-03-15T14:55:46-04:00 PFC Jerry Bruce 1387331 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is a posting on Facebook titled,,,''' Beware the useful Idiots..""" It is a plan that Obama has been following since day one. He is supported by at least 3 Billionaires,,, one is George Soros, the other two are Princes of the Saudi Arabia royal Family. they have completed 80% of this plan... Read it &amp; tell me I am Wrong.... He is still trying to take our guns... the two problems He faces now is Donald Trump &amp; the reaction of the military to his current attitude &amp; his removing many high ranking officers that might oppose him. He isn't sure the Army will follow his orders against the American people. But the threat is still there &amp; all he needs to declare martial law is an excuse,,, like a terrorist attack. Response by PFC Jerry Bruce made Mar 17 at 2016 11:44 PM 2016-03-17T23:44:25-04:00 2016-03-17T23:44:25-04:00 2014-05-12T20:57:59-04:00