Another death penalty in newlywed Marine couple murders https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-13049"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fanother-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Another+death+penalty+in+newlywed+Marine+couple+murders&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fanother-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AAnother death penalty in newlywed Marine couple murders%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="c8af2a803ef3a9c3aacf2f0cde731865" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/013/049/for_gallery_v2/newlywed-couple1.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/013/049/large_v3/newlywed-couple1.jpg" alt="Newlywed couple1" /></a></div></div>From: Marine Corps Times<br /><br />A man who joined three accomplices in tormenting and killing a Marine sergeant and his wife during a home invasion robbery near Murrieta, California, was sentenced Friday to death.<br /><br />Kesaun Kedron Sykes, 27, was convicted in August of the 2008 slayings of 26-year-olde Quiana Faye Jenkins-Pietrzak and her husband, 24-year-old Janek Pietrzak.<br /><br />The six-man, six-woman jury that found Sykes guilty recommended the death penalty, and Riverside County Superior Court Judge Christian Thierbach followed that recommendation.<br /><br />The defendant is the last of four former Marines to be sentenced for the Oct. 15, 2008, killings.<br /><br />Last year, three members of Janek Pietrzak&#39;s helicopter maintenance squadron at Camp Pendleton — Kevin Darnell Cox and Tyrone Lloyd Miller, both 27, along with 25-year-old Emrys Justin John —were convicted.<br /><br />Cox and Miller were sentenced to death, while John received two consecutive life prison terms.<br /><br />&quot;Mr. Sykes and the other defendants crossed every line of human decency when they committed these murders,&quot; said Deputy District Attorney Dan DeLimon. &quot;We&#39;re talking about a pack of predators who actually took pleasure in inflicting pain and suffering. They&#39;re more monster than human.&quot;<br /><br />Sykes, Miller, Cox and John forced their way into the Pietrzaks&#39; French Valley home at 3139 Bermuda Ave. after Cox knocked on the door around 1 a.m. asking if he could speak to the sergeant.<br /><br />After tying up and gagging the victims, the defendants ransacked the home for 90 minutes.<br /><br />Quiana Pietrzak was separated from her husband and placed on a table by Sykes, who stripped her and joined Miller and Cox in sexually violating her with a vibrator. According to the defendants&#39; own testimony, they mocked the blindfolded woman, making lewd gestures and suggesting that her cooperation might save her life.<br /><br />The foursome had carried out a similar home-invasion in Oceanside less than a month earlier, though no one was killed. They confessed that they were mainly interested in the &quot;stuff&quot; they might be able steal from the Pietrzaks, who had received numerous gifts at their Aug. 8 wedding.<br /><br />John shot the couple with a 9mm handgun.<br /><br />The defendants painted racial epithets on the home&#39;s interior walls — and on the victims&#39; bodies — to make it appear as though a hate-crime had occurred. Pietrzak was of Polish descent; Quiana was black.<br /><br />Sykes&#39; attorney, Doug Myers, argued that his client suffered from an under-developed brain.<br /><br />Pietrzak&#39;s mother, Henryka Varga, and Quiana&#39;s mother, Glenda Faye Jenkins, waged a campaign in 2009 seeking legislation to require the Marine Corps to raise its recruiting standards and strengthen vetting procedures to prevent men such as the defendants from joining. The effort did not bear fruit.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/crime/2014/11/10/murder-death-penalty/18790785/">http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/crime/2014/11/10/murder-death-penalty/18790785/</a> Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:44:20 -0500 Another death penalty in newlywed Marine couple murders https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-13049"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fanother-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Another+death+penalty+in+newlywed+Marine+couple+murders&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fanother-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AAnother death penalty in newlywed Marine couple murders%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="f8c439b2afd199d4a8466617de716f62" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/013/049/for_gallery_v2/newlywed-couple1.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/013/049/large_v3/newlywed-couple1.jpg" alt="Newlywed couple1" /></a></div></div>From: Marine Corps Times<br /><br />A man who joined three accomplices in tormenting and killing a Marine sergeant and his wife during a home invasion robbery near Murrieta, California, was sentenced Friday to death.<br /><br />Kesaun Kedron Sykes, 27, was convicted in August of the 2008 slayings of 26-year-olde Quiana Faye Jenkins-Pietrzak and her husband, 24-year-old Janek Pietrzak.<br /><br />The six-man, six-woman jury that found Sykes guilty recommended the death penalty, and Riverside County Superior Court Judge Christian Thierbach followed that recommendation.<br /><br />The defendant is the last of four former Marines to be sentenced for the Oct. 15, 2008, killings.<br /><br />Last year, three members of Janek Pietrzak&#39;s helicopter maintenance squadron at Camp Pendleton — Kevin Darnell Cox and Tyrone Lloyd Miller, both 27, along with 25-year-old Emrys Justin John —were convicted.<br /><br />Cox and Miller were sentenced to death, while John received two consecutive life prison terms.<br /><br />&quot;Mr. Sykes and the other defendants crossed every line of human decency when they committed these murders,&quot; said Deputy District Attorney Dan DeLimon. &quot;We&#39;re talking about a pack of predators who actually took pleasure in inflicting pain and suffering. They&#39;re more monster than human.&quot;<br /><br />Sykes, Miller, Cox and John forced their way into the Pietrzaks&#39; French Valley home at 3139 Bermuda Ave. after Cox knocked on the door around 1 a.m. asking if he could speak to the sergeant.<br /><br />After tying up and gagging the victims, the defendants ransacked the home for 90 minutes.<br /><br />Quiana Pietrzak was separated from her husband and placed on a table by Sykes, who stripped her and joined Miller and Cox in sexually violating her with a vibrator. According to the defendants&#39; own testimony, they mocked the blindfolded woman, making lewd gestures and suggesting that her cooperation might save her life.<br /><br />The foursome had carried out a similar home-invasion in Oceanside less than a month earlier, though no one was killed. They confessed that they were mainly interested in the &quot;stuff&quot; they might be able steal from the Pietrzaks, who had received numerous gifts at their Aug. 8 wedding.<br /><br />John shot the couple with a 9mm handgun.<br /><br />The defendants painted racial epithets on the home&#39;s interior walls — and on the victims&#39; bodies — to make it appear as though a hate-crime had occurred. Pietrzak was of Polish descent; Quiana was black.<br /><br />Sykes&#39; attorney, Doug Myers, argued that his client suffered from an under-developed brain.<br /><br />Pietrzak&#39;s mother, Henryka Varga, and Quiana&#39;s mother, Glenda Faye Jenkins, waged a campaign in 2009 seeking legislation to require the Marine Corps to raise its recruiting standards and strengthen vetting procedures to prevent men such as the defendants from joining. The effort did not bear fruit.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/crime/2014/11/10/murder-death-penalty/18790785/">http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/crime/2014/11/10/murder-death-penalty/18790785/</a> Marine Corps Times Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:44:20 -0500 2014-11-10T16:44:20-05:00 Response by SPC(P) Samantha Moore made Nov 10 at 2014 4:54 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320709&urlhash=320709 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As much as I am not &quot;supposed&quot; to be pro-death penalty, I am quite satisfied with the death penalty punishment.  May the rest in paradise.  SPC(P) Samantha Moore Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:54:40 -0500 2014-11-10T16:54:40-05:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 4:59 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320720&urlhash=320720 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Kill him slowly. And publically SGT Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:59:44 -0500 2014-11-10T16:59:44-05:00 Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Nov 10 at 2014 5:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320740&urlhash=320740 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The following quotes in this piece are particularly telling in my eyes --<br />(1) &quot;...stripped her and joined Miller and Cox in sexually violating her...&quot;<br />(2) &quot;The defendants painted racial epithets on the home&#39;s interior walls — and on the victims&#39; bodies...&quot;<br />(3) &quot;Mr. Sykes and the other defendants crossed every line of human decency when they committed these murders...&quot;<br /><br />I don&#39;t find comfort in wishing death upon anyone else -- and I often try to think of ways to avoid the death penalty -- but here it just seems like the most reasonable punishment is the death penalty. I find myself wanting these people to suffer as well, just as they made others suffer, though I know it&#39;s not necessarily healthy to have those feelings. The people who did this are lower than animals, lower than scum! My heart goes out to the families of the deceased, and may everyone affected find peace. This whole situation just bothers me to my core.<br /><br />Overall, I also want to note that I found the article itself well-written and professionally communicated, in light of the sensitivity of the content. So, thanks to <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="423398" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/423398-marine-corps-times">Marine Corps Times</a> writers for that. CPT Aaron Kletzing Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:09:07 -0500 2014-11-10T17:09:07-05:00 Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Nov 10 at 2014 6:02 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320847&urlhash=320847 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If we started to enact like punishments to the criminals, would it reduce violent crime? CPT Zachary Brooks Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:02:14 -0500 2014-11-10T18:02:14-05:00 Response by PO2 Jonathan Scharff made Nov 10 at 2014 6:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320851&urlhash=320851 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What a horrible horrible story. They both seem like a vibrant caring loving couple in their photo and in the back story. Sad that I am reading this final chapter on the Corp's birthday which I know is so revered. I can only hope that these convictions help add some closure to those families destroyed by these animals. I will never understand why such horrible things have to happen to decent people. Very sad. PO2 Jonathan Scharff Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:04:39 -0500 2014-11-10T18:04:39-05:00 Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 10 at 2014 6:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320922&urlhash=320922 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is pure evil in this world. No matter how much we try to see the good in people, and be naive to the duality of man, we must always remain alert. Some people have no right to be deserving of the term &quot;human.&quot; My heart aches. SFC Mark Merino Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:49:52 -0500 2014-11-10T18:49:52-05:00 Response by PO1 Michael Fullmer made Nov 10 at 2014 7:25 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=320995&urlhash=320995 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Every one of them should be executed in as horrible a way as possible. PO1 Michael Fullmer Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:25:52 -0500 2014-11-10T19:25:52-05:00 Response by SFC Olivero Rodriguez made Nov 10 at 2014 7:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321050&urlhash=321050 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can I pull the plug. or shut the live round, or something/ SFC Olivero Rodriguez Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:57:57 -0500 2014-11-10T19:57:57-05:00 Response by PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith made Nov 10 at 2014 8:44 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321137&urlhash=321137 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The four who committed the murders were part of his own unit? That makes me want to puke. While I can understand the sentiment of some of the commenters who want these four to be executed swiftly, I respectfully disagree. That's too good for them. I prefer how Vigo was executed in Ghostbusters 2. He was poisoned, shot, stabbed, hung, stretched, disemboweled, drawn and quartered. After all of that, then they can die. PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:44:18 -0500 2014-11-10T20:44:18-05:00 Response by SPC Daniel Edwards made Nov 10 at 2014 9:18 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321202&urlhash=321202 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>*wondering if there is a fuel that, when ignited, will burn as painfully slow as possible* SPC Daniel Edwards Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:18:33 -0500 2014-11-10T21:18:33-05:00 Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Nov 10 at 2014 11:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321397&urlhash=321397 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is so sad...a young couple tortured and killed for no reason at all. Saddest of it all, these horrible crimes were committed by service members, did I read that correctly? Hopefully these individuals will receive some 'jailhouse justice' saving the taxpayers years of hardship. SPC(P) Jay Heenan Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:31:46 -0500 2014-11-10T23:31:46-05:00 Response by SSG Leonard J W. made Nov 10 at 2014 11:35 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321405&urlhash=321405 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Obviously, this story is heartbreaking. I&#39;m angry, sad, and confused all at once. We attend hours of Equal Opportunity training each year, but it&#39;s obviously not sinking in for some people. We recite creeds that promote honor, integrity, and selfless-service, but, as it seems, some people can memorize, yet not internalize, the very things that make us who we are as America&#39;s military. I feel betrayed by my would-have-been brothers-in-arms. Their actions were totally uncalled for. SSG Leonard J W. Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:35:15 -0500 2014-11-10T23:35:15-05:00 Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Nov 10 at 2014 11:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321420&urlhash=321420 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is saddening that we such A-holes that tarnish the very soul of our uniforms. Unfortunately, the reality of life is that Military Service comes from a cross section of society. Which means that invariably, there will be a few bad eggs. CMSgt James Nolan Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:40:10 -0500 2014-11-10T23:40:10-05:00 Response by SSG Tim Everett made Nov 10 at 2014 11:58 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321451&urlhash=321451 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Blood for blood. SSG Tim Everett Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:58:24 -0500 2014-11-10T23:58:24-05:00 Response by LCpl Devin Hall made Nov 11 at 2014 3:39 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321593&urlhash=321593 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is horrible...and they definitely deserve what they got...wish they could be revived so they could get the death penalty a few times...bring the chair back...make them suffer like they made their victims suffer...they're monsters...monsters have no place here. LCpl Devin Hall Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:39:33 -0500 2014-11-11T03:39:33-05:00 Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2014 7:58 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=321701&urlhash=321701 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow, what a heart breaking story. Unfortunately evil lurks and seeks for opportunities to create heart ache and misery. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Pietrzak family. I fully support the verdict and the penalty with the exception that all 4 should have received the same penalty. Period! Col Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:58:54 -0500 2014-11-11T07:58:54-05:00 Response by Capt Richard I P. made Nov 11 at 2014 1:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=322057&urlhash=322057 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We must kill them. We are a brothergood of warriors, misusing our lethal empowerment merits death. Misusing it against a fellow warrior deserves death at the hands of another fellow warrior, it's as simple as that. Capt Richard I P. Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:05:13 -0500 2014-11-11T13:05:13-05:00 Response by LCpl Karen Lowes made Nov 11 at 2014 2:36 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=322182&urlhash=322182 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are absolutely no words to express the sadness I feel for this couple and their families. I like so many will send our prayers along to those suffering. LCpl Karen Lowes Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:36:27 -0500 2014-11-11T14:36:27-05:00 Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 11:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=323502&urlhash=323502 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I just cannot express the shock I feel from this article. I pray that the Lord God will comfort the mourning families. And I pray for the soul of this last man of the foursome that committed these inhumane acts against a fellow Marine and his dependent wife whom they are supposed to support, not degrade and kill. TSgt Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:07:16 -0500 2014-11-12T11:07:16-05:00 Response by PFC Steve Joy made Nov 12 at 2014 12:48 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=323701&urlhash=323701 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Having trained with many, and currently working with a few retired Marines... I submit that these monsters do not deserve to be called Former Marines. The term Ex-Marine suits them a little better. PFC Steve Joy Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:48:06 -0500 2014-11-12T12:48:06-05:00 Response by Cpl Rob Bibber made Nov 12 at 2014 2:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=323929&urlhash=323929 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Death penalty is getting off easy in my opinion. Cpl Rob Bibber Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:46:27 -0500 2014-11-12T14:46:27-05:00 Response by SN Jennifer M. made Nov 12 at 2014 3:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=323975&urlhash=323975 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Disgusting. Under-developed brain my butt (sorry no potty mouth words). So sad that they had to be killed over their wedding gifts. I feel that there is a huge underlining story in this. SN Jennifer M. Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:04:40 -0500 2014-11-12T15:04:40-05:00 Response by LTJG Robert M. made Nov 12 at 2014 4:23 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=324100&urlhash=324100 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would be happy to donate a few rounds of whatever caliber the Rifle Squad will be using . . . LTJG Robert M. Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:23:21 -0500 2014-11-12T16:23:21-05:00 Response by PO1 David Waeschle made Nov 12 at 2014 4:54 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=324150&urlhash=324150 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What a couple of s*%! bags to ambush and invade the home of their fellow Marine and then kill him and his wife. People who behave like that are embarrassment to themselves, their families, and to all of us who join the military to serve our country. <br /><br />What really sucks in serving your country you end up defending the rights of the innocent and the grossly unrepentant and ungrateful like the three who got the death sentence. Too bad California doesn't just ship those who are convicted and sentenced to death to Texas. Because in Texas they don't mess around, they keep the wait line on death row SHORT! And for good reason. PO1 David Waeschle Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:54:38 -0500 2014-11-12T16:54:38-05:00 Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 1:16 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=324730&urlhash=324730 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Firing squad? MAJ Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:16:20 -0500 2014-11-13T01:16:20-05:00 Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Nov 13 at 2014 1:43 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=324751&urlhash=324751 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's California, the death penalty doesn't mean a thing here. The convicts will likely die of old age before they even approach a date for their execution. Cpl Ray Fernandez Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:43:54 -0500 2014-11-13T01:43:54-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 3:07 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=325481&urlhash=325481 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unfortunate circumstances outside Camp Pendleton, glad justice was served! SFC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:07:49 -0500 2014-11-13T15:07:49-05:00 Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 3:28 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=325514&urlhash=325514 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Should have been convicted of rape, murder, torture, kidnapping etc without the death penalty. They would have lived their days in general population and darwinism would have taken over. Death penalty = private room and constant supervision. No need for the hilton treatment for these scumbags CW4 Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:28:06 -0500 2014-11-13T15:28:06-05:00 Response by SSG John Bacon made Nov 13 at 2014 4:35 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=325591&urlhash=325591 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>okay too easy. They admitted it all so, no nice stay in the Fed. Pen, just dig a hole kick them in and shoot them. Cover hole = Job Done. SSG John Bacon Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:35:22 -0500 2014-11-13T16:35:22-05:00 Response by Capt Richard I P. made Nov 15 at 2014 4:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=328461&urlhash=328461 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is exactly why the right of the armed forces to be armed should be enhanced and protected. Come support the right of the armed forces to be armed!: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces">http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/005/080/qrc/050807-m-0502e-005.jpg?1443027287"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces">Arm the Armed Forces! | RallyPoint</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The outcome of the discussion &quot;Concealed carry for CAC holders?&quot; by [~222148:SGT Bernard Boyer III]. Below follows my skeleton letter to congress, based on the edits RP members have suggested to the 10 points. Anyone and everyone is welcome to edit and personalize the letter for their own use in writing to their congressional representatives. We sent a mass email on 3 January, the swearing in of the new congress, now it&#39;s a free for all. You...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Capt Richard I P. Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:21:06 -0500 2014-11-15T16:21:06-05:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2014 12:55 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=336747&urlhash=336747 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The death penalty is to easy for these creatures. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:55:01 -0500 2014-11-21T12:55:01-05:00 Response by MSG Greg Kelly made Nov 21 at 2014 3:38 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=336996&urlhash=336996 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What a waste of young lives this couple had the world to look forward to. And it is Calf. so those killers will not die except by old age. They will live in prison and suck up tax dollars while a young couple is gone. Were is the justice. MSG Greg Kelly Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:38:19 -0500 2014-11-21T15:38:19-05:00 Response by SFC Mark Bailey made Jan 9 at 2015 12:34 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=409549&urlhash=409549 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am .... beyond words...<br /><br />Strip all four of these maggots of all rank and privileges<br />Stake them down permanently so they cannot run away in an open field<br />Send in anyone who wants to remove this stain upon Humanity<br /><br />Make sure they do not go easily into the darkness<br />Make sure they know and remember each and every thing that happens to them<br />Make sure they stay alive long enough and conscious enough as we beat them to death SFC Mark Bailey Fri, 09 Jan 2015 12:34:27 -0500 2015-01-09T12:34:27-05:00 Response by SPC Roxana Romero made Jan 9 at 2015 1:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=409648&urlhash=409648 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My heart dropped, how disgusting SPC Roxana Romero Fri, 09 Jan 2015 13:49:05 -0500 2015-01-09T13:49:05-05:00 Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2015 2:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=409816&urlhash=409816 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not really up for pressing the like button here... If anything i would press the do not like button. So sad that anyone has this type of evil running in their veins. Not even sure why the guy that pulled the trigger is serving time in prison and didn't receive the death penalty with the rest of those jokers. They should lose their right to an attorney because his attorney saying he suffered from "and underdeveloped brain" is just stupid. That's the same thing as blaming mass shootings on PTSD and is inexcusable. Justice is served here which is what is important. SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:57:28 -0500 2015-01-09T14:57:28-05:00 Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 5 at 2015 7:44 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=514386&urlhash=514386 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>God bless Quiana and Janek Pietrzak and their families. Cpl Mark McMiller Thu, 05 Mar 2015 19:44:13 -0500 2015-03-05T19:44:13-05:00 Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2015 5:06 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515025&urlhash=515025 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is sick, methodic and brutal. No amount of retribution will be enough for the friends and family of the victims. Death is not enough for people like this. <br /><br />My heart goes out to the friends and family of the victims. I hope one day, they will an end to their grief and find solace in the death of the assailants. I doubt they ever will though. TSgt Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 06 Mar 2015 05:06:02 -0500 2015-03-06T05:06:02-05:00 Response by LTC Paul Heinlein made Mar 6 at 2015 6:06 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515056&urlhash=515056 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Marines' should put these guys through a court martial under the UCMJ, since they were all military.<br /><br />Once convicted by court martial, they should be handed over to Military Authorities and put in Leavenworth vice a civilian system. They can have them when we are done with them. They need to be sitting beside Hassan. LTC Paul Heinlein Fri, 06 Mar 2015 06:06:24 -0500 2015-03-06T06:06:24-05:00 Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Mar 6 at 2015 8:14 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515155&urlhash=515155 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The death penalty is too good for them life in prison at hard labor is better. I'm always saying, "we have to take care of home with all the problems existing here instead of being involve in other countries drama", hate is a disease this is truly a tragedy. MSG Floyd Williams Fri, 06 Mar 2015 08:14:22 -0500 2015-03-06T08:14:22-05:00 Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Mar 6 at 2015 10:38 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515438&urlhash=515438 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>"Sykes' attorney, Doug Myers, argued that his client suffered from an under-developed brain."<br /><br />This goes in the Mr obvious category as well as the So what, we don't care department. SGM Erik Marquez Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:38:51 -0500 2015-03-06T10:38:51-05:00 Response by MGySgt Marty Pack made Mar 6 at 2015 11:14 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515548&urlhash=515548 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>About damn time! The efficient wheels of justice will prevail! MGySgt Marty Pack Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:14:34 -0500 2015-03-06T11:14:34-05:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2015 12:11 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515660&urlhash=515660 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Holy Cow. I am so glad he got what he deserved. This story is just beyond any kind of words. I'm glad there has been some kind of justice for the family members. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:11:50 -0500 2015-03-06T12:11:50-05:00 Response by COL Ted Mc made Mar 6 at 2015 12:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515721&urlhash=515721 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is an old science fiction story in which the killer ended up not getting convicted - but the Judge ruled that the killer was a "varmint". Look up the definition. I think that there is something to be said for that type of a verdict.<br /><br />Also, John W. Campbell used to argue that the legal definition of "insane" had become so complex as to be utterly meaningless and advocated the substitution of "nuts" for "insane". [The reason is that almost anyone can tell that someone is "nuts" but it takes a team of highly trained, well educated, generously paid, professionals to be able to say that someone may - or may not - be "insane".]<br /><br />As a general rule, I'm opposed to the death penalty (the way it is awarded) BUT I have no difficulty in executing people like the four who killed this promising young couple when there is NO POSSIBILITY that they did not do the deed.<br /><br />As for those who escape criminal responsibility due to mental illness, is there any reason why society should not be protected from them for the same length of time as it would be if they weren't mentally ill? Off to "The Home" for as long as they would be sent to jail and when they have been cured AND the time has elapsed then they can come out WITHOUT a criminal record.<br /><br />I'd also like to make both parole boards and others involved in releasing potentially dangerous prisoners responsible for the actions of those that they release. At least that way the people who decide that some serial criminal who has been in a state institution long enough to convince the releasing authorities that they are now a reformed character will have some skin in the game. [How that would work, I have no idea. BUT I'd like to see it tried because you can be damned sure that the people making the release decisions are going to be just a bit more cautious when making them.] COL Ted Mc Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:42:38 -0500 2015-03-06T12:42:38-05:00 Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 6 at 2015 12:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515751&urlhash=515751 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just getting the death penalty is far to easy for animals like these. Should be some of what they inflicted to go with it! SFC Collin McMillion Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:57:57 -0500 2015-03-06T12:57:57-05:00 Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Mar 6 at 2015 2:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515896&urlhash=515896 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Good they all got convicted, 3 out of 4 received the death penalty, guess the one had a good enough lawyer to cut a better deal.<br />Just hope that their death sentences don't linger for the next 20 years on appeal. What they did is beyond sick and they don't deserve to live on the taxpayer dollar for the next 20 or so years. PO1 Glenn Boucher Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:01:42 -0500 2015-03-06T14:01:42-05:00 Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 6 at 2015 2:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515982&urlhash=515982 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've said it before... I don't believe in God and divine judgement because I have some special insight or my faith is better than anyone else's. I believe in God and divine retribution because I have to, to keep my sanity. I cannot imagine any punishment that we can inflict upon perpetrators such as these, not even death, that is sufficient for their crimes.<br /><br />Anyone who "thinks" about these things must necessary swing like a pendulum between support for and opposition to the death penalty. There have been enough cases of innocence proven following capital punishment to give us pause. There have been at least as many cases of perpetrators set free for insane reasons (I watched the OJ trial and felt that I too would have to vote for innocence even had I witnessed the crime because the prosecution was so poor). <br /><br />I can only pray and hope that my prayers are not delivered to a void, and that there is a God who will sort it all out, bless the victims with a better existence than the one that ended here so badly, and punish the perpetrators appropriately. CPT Jack Durish Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:32:11 -0500 2015-03-06T14:32:11-05:00 Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Mar 6 at 2015 2:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=515998&urlhash=515998 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know very little about this case, but I think the outcome was right. Here is a thought that I have, pertains to many many many cases.... I think about what MY parents, family, and friends would think of me if I had been busted for this (or any other crime). I think of the shame they would hold because of my actions... Sad really.... I guess I was raised right and respect others. Maj Chris Nelson Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:41:49 -0500 2015-03-06T14:41:49-05:00 Response by SSG Kenneth Lanning made Mar 6 at 2015 9:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=516641&urlhash=516641 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One thing I fail to understand...when someone stops acting like a human being, why do we continue as a society to treat him or her as one? Hell, I remember back home seeing posts in the newspaper about sex offenders that have been released, are 5-8th time offenders (no, this is not an exagerration), listed as VERY likely to reoffend, yet they STILL LET THEM OUT. WTF??? Is it more "politically correct" and "humane" to those who will suffer because of them by letting them out and treating them as regular people? Why are we taking more consideration towards the offenders and not the victims? Sorry, went a little off-topic, but I fail to understand how society and "humanitarian groups" figured this BS... SSG Kenneth Lanning Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:49:15 -0500 2015-03-06T21:49:15-05:00 Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2015 8:22 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=517140&urlhash=517140 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is absolutely sickening. Sociopaths are drawn to our Corps but it's our job as recruiters to screen these applicants in order to prevent these horrors from ever coming to fruition. Is there a better way to weed out those with sociopathic tendencies or are we doomed to see headlines like this all the time? SSgt Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:22:01 -0500 2015-03-07T08:22:01-05:00 Response by SGT Reuben Barrett made Mar 7 at 2015 9:33 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=518244&urlhash=518244 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is no question of the illegal and inhumane actions and conduct of the perpetrators against the victims of this horrific crime. <br /><br />Here it is extremely difficult to be a reasonable and rational thinking person in the face of such horrific crimes. However, that is what is incumbent upon us as a civilized society.<br /><br />I vehemently disagree with any “State” (meaning a form of government) killing its own citizens. (**)<br /><br />Here from an 1895 U.S. Supreme Court case which stated, “it is better that 10 guilty persons go free than that 1 innocent person be convicted.” U.S. Supreme Court: COFFIN v. U.S., 156 U.S. 432 (1895) COFFIN et al. v. UNITED STATES. No. 741. <br />Provides an interesting note of conflict. On average in the USA death row wait times are over a decade and quite costly - more than the average prisoner.<br /><br />If an innocent were put to death then later found to be not guilty – how would you provide restitution and provide exoneration by releasing them to return to the rest of their life from the grave? <br /><br />However, I do agree with a sentence of Life at hard labor without parole.<br /><br />Some might agree with a sentence of Life in continuous and constant Solitary confinement without parole however, that is also as inhumane as is the death penalty.<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://solitarywatch.com/facts/faq/">http://solitarywatch.com/facts/faq/</a><br /><br /><br />(**) <br />The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1948 – In 2006, I was taught in an International Humans Rights Law course - the USA never signed that agreement!<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml">http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml</a><br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.humanrights.com/#/home">http://www.humanrights.com/#/home</a><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />I hope that I have provided enough for comment and argument both pro and con from the above short statements and the limited information presented. <br /><br />That was my intent! SGT Reuben Barrett Sat, 07 Mar 2015 21:33:56 -0500 2015-03-07T21:33:56-05:00 Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Oct 5 at 2015 5:24 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1016890&urlhash=1016890 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How do these people get into and stay the Corps in the first place? That gangsta criminal attitude should have been spotted long before then. I fully condone the campaign the relatives are pushing. SPC Christopher Perrien Mon, 05 Oct 2015 05:24:28 -0400 2015-10-05T05:24:28-04:00 Response by SSG Keith Cashion made Oct 5 at 2015 10:08 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1017250&urlhash=1017250 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Under-Developed brain? But he was in the military? How does that defense work....wait, it didn't. I am sure if he had these mental issues when he was in the military, someone would have noticed. SSG Keith Cashion Mon, 05 Oct 2015 10:08:31 -0400 2015-10-05T10:08:31-04:00 Response by Sgt Ken Prescott made Oct 5 at 2015 10:18 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1019122&urlhash=1019122 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In all fairness, while I may not have had an underdeveloped brain when I was a Marine, there were times that I damn sure acted as if I did... Sgt Ken Prescott Mon, 05 Oct 2015 22:18:00 -0400 2015-10-05T22:18:00-04:00 Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 7:46 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1019765&urlhash=1019765 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sometimes the death penalty doesn't seem like enough. This is one of those times. There should be some way they are forced to do something which helps the families of the victims prior to the "humane" death which their victims weren't afforded. Maj Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 06 Oct 2015 07:46:47 -0400 2015-10-06T07:46:47-04:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2015 9:17 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1024922&urlhash=1024922 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow. Marines did that to another marine? Freaking disgusting. Can't the Marine Corps Court Martial them and send them to Leavenworth until Their day to die? Because they were Active at the time and fall under UCMJ. Being in military lock up would be worse then being in a cozy cell with 3 hots and a cot. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:17:10 -0400 2015-10-07T21:17:10-04:00 Response by SrA Art Siatkowsky made Oct 8 at 2015 1:11 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1025325&urlhash=1025325 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is another reason we have the second amendment and our soldiers should be able to carry. Justice after the fact is not acceptable. Defend your family and loved ones and let the cops draw the line around the invaders. SrA Art Siatkowsky Thu, 08 Oct 2015 01:11:14 -0400 2015-10-08T01:11:14-04:00 Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Oct 12 at 2015 3:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders?n=1035282&urlhash=1035282 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yeah, these things need to be dragged through a mile of broken glass by their genitals. There is nothing redeeming about these creatures. Their families should be made to pay for the rest of their lives to the victim's families for allowing such an animal to grow to maturity. I know this sounds terrible, but I sincerely hope that when that injection goes off, they have an allergic reaction to the cocktail, and suffer for hours before dying. PO3 Steven Sherrill Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:27:15 -0400 2015-10-12T15:27:15-04:00 2014-11-10T16:44:20-05:00