Are females authorized to undo their hair bun during range?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:22:00 -0400

Are they authorized to undo the bun during range ? And if can please provide me with regulations please

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2017 5:25 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:25:33 -0400

Hair regs are AR and DA PAM 670-1. However, the undoing of a bun at a range, I think, would fall under the umbrella of the Range OIC/NCOIC, the Safeties, and the NCO/Officer Chain of the Soldier in question.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jul 18 at 2017 6:48 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:48:21 -0400

Honestly, I don't know, but here's a couple excerpts from the Marine Corps uniform order.

"Hair will be styled so as not to interfere with the proper wear of all uniform headgear. All headgear will fit snugly and comfortably around the largest part of the head without
distortion or excessive gaps. When headgear is worn, hair should not protrude at distinct angles from under the edges. Hairstyles, which do not allow the headgear to be worn in this manner, are prohibited."

>Ch 5 4. Physical Training (PT). Medium/short length hair may be worn down for organized PT, except when considered a safety hazard. Long hair must be secured. Pony tails are authorized. When hair-securing devices are worn (i.e. barrettes, small pony tail holders…), they must be consistent with the hair color. Examples of hair accessories not authorized for
securing hair for PT are; scrunchies, bows, ribbons, alligator clips… MARADMIN 504/07

>Ch 5 5. Boots and Utilities (“boots and utes”). When wearing
boots and utes in a PT environment, hair should be secured using the PT
guidelines identified above. When boots and utes are worn in a non-PT
related environment, hair must be secured per the regulations detailed in the
hairstyle regulations provided in paragraph 1004.5.c.1.a-b. MARADMIN 504/07

>Ch 5 6. Hair Accessories. Except in PT situations,
inconspicuous hairpins and bobby pins, if required, are authorized. Hairnets
will not be worn unless authorized for a specific type of duty. Barrettes,
combs, rubber bands, etc. are authorized, if concealed by the hair. MARADMIN
504/07

Maybe this will help when you look in your respective uniform order.

Response by SGT Liz Georges made Jul 18 at 2017 8:49 PM

SGT Liz Georges — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:49:52 -0400

Do you mean like your bun gets in the way of your Kevlar so you need to take your bun down? Absolutely not! My unit was 50% female. If we could qualify with our buns so can females these days. If you mean your bun is falling out so you need to take it down to fix it to be in reg, that's another and you don't need a reg to fix your hair. I can't think of any other reason to take your bun out. If you can't handle your hair, cut it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2017 2:45 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:45:52 -0400

What do you mean? Is it purposely being taken out? Or is it just falling out because sometimes that happens when you're wearing a helmet and when you take it off, it's a raging mess sometimes?

I haven't ever had an issue with my bun falling out during PT or when I'm wearing a helmet. I have had my hair look a mess after wearing a helmet for awhile but I always could smooth it down with some water or something.

AR 670-1 explains female hair regulation. I don't think it mentions while at the range. If they're taking it out they're wrong. They need to learn how to fix it or they can cut it off.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made Jul 19 at 2017 8:15 PM

SGT Christopher Hayden — Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:15:52 -0400

I don't know about your question but I recommend not letting your hair down if you're at the M249/M240 range.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2020 8:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:34:11 -0500

Yes. But technically only with an IOTV and Kevlar. FM 3-22.9 Paragraph 4-30