Are police officers catching a bad rap?

2015-07-18T01:27:30-04:00

With all the recent negative news about police officers and their training or lack there of in regards the many fatal and near fatal police brutality stories, how long will it take for the overall perception of police officers to improve?

Response by SPC Thomas Baldwin made Jul 18 at 2015 1:30 AM

2015-07-18T01:30:56-04:00

Yes, and many of the video out aren't even from the US. If you fight they have the right to FIGHT back. Id be a fool to say it doesn't happen. But compared to the the number of police contacts its less than one half of one percent.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 18 at 2015 1:44 AM

2015-07-18T01:44:55-04:00

Yes, absolutely CW4 Private RallyPoint Member. As you know there is real evil in the world and in America. We need police, courts, and prisons.... The Rule of Law. Sure there are bad cops... But, that is a minority... a very small minority... No one likes police until they need them, and when you do need them, you call 911, an complain because they don't respond fast enough. Police, Fire, EMS, teachers, military... are all there to serve...

Response by CPT Chris Loomis made Jul 18 at 2015 1:50 AM

2015-07-18T01:50:44-04:00

Yes, they are Chief. I went off on a "Dennis Miller-ish" rant about this here on RP about a month ago....

I'm going to spare the general population from it now.....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2015 1:50 AM

2015-07-18T01:50:58-04:00

It's media saturation. 1 bad apple has spoiled a bunch.
...it could easily happen to troops as technology spreads.
If someone instigates a clash with police (or troops), chances are that they will be taken down hard. If the camera only rolls for the take down, any altercation gets rolled in with the thoughts of the bad cop or bad Soldier.
So much information out there- but no one is looking at the details.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jul 18 at 2015 2:08 AM

2015-07-18T02:08:11-04:00

Many people believe that a person who is not army with a fire arm is not dangerous. That needs to change. People have the right to use deadly force when their safety is threaten and especially their life. Police are trained to disable the threat, not to kill and not to wound. The general public needs to know this. No amount of extra training will matter.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2015 2:44 AM

2015-07-18T02:44:41-04:00

Is the Pope a Catholic???

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2015 7:50 AM

2015-07-18T07:50:06-04:00

Yes, just as in every other profession the misdeeds of a few are what gets the attention. And, the loud vocal of those who were actually wronged, and those who claim they were wronged is what gathers attention.

I was the building administrator in a facility which housed the city/county jail. Never heard an inmate say they belonged there.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jul 18 at 2015 9:07 AM

2015-07-18T09:07:53-04:00

Very much so.

My view on cops (as individuals) is very much like my on People. The overwhelming VAST Majority of them are good. They want to do the right thing, for the right reasons. They are trustworthy and competent, because they are People.

However, and I pause for effect. Police Agencies, are Organizations are a System, not People. I don't trust Systems. Systems are neither good nor bad. They just have strong or weak oversight. Oversight is what prevents Corruption of Intent, though it can promote more bureaucracy.

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Jul 18 at 2015 10:48 AM

2015-07-18T10:48:23-04:00

I've been a military and civilian cop. I attended two police academies and took my undergrad degree in criminal justice. I was a cop when 200+ were killed each year (twice what it is now). I saw a lot of great cops but way too many bad ones. I saw bullies and punks and idiots. I saw guys escalate situations just to make an easy arrest. I've heard cops lie in court under oath. I listened to some disparage minorities and the citizenry in general. We've all seen footage of cops murdering citizens, we know this is only a fraction of what goes on. It's time for the good cops to drive out the unfit, incompetent ones. Cops created this problem, they need to own it and fix it. Before the angry responses start, I know there are tons of bad guys and the job is dangerous, but the cops took an oath to protect and defend and they need to honor that oath and their badge. if they allow bad cops to continue to make their loves harder then it will just get worse.

Response by SGT Ray Grooms made Jul 26 at 2015 10:32 PM

2015-07-26T22:32:03-04:00

Until police departments start ridding themselves of the bad apples, things will not change. I teach my kids not to talk to police ever. Why? Because cops have proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Cops are taught not to believe anything a citizen says, but that cuts both ways, therefore I automatically think everything a cop says is a lie until proven otherwise. Don't talk to police except to invoke your right to remain silent and to ask for an attorney. Remember everything you say or do can and will be used against you in a court of law, and anything that helps you is hearsay and cannot be admitted into court.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Jul 27 at 2015 6:46 AM

2015-07-27T06:46:52-04:00

Yes. Our president has demonized them for simply upholding the laws they've sworn to uphold. He glorifys felons.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Aug 9 at 2015 1:51 PM

2015-08-09T13:51:41-04:00

A decided yes.
Police Officers are Peace Officers. They are not out to offend the public; they are out to defend it.
I think that the general public tends to forget that Law Enforcement Officers are flesh and blood; just like the general public is.
And that their job is to defend the law.
Unfortunately, their are sinful Police Officers; who make a bad name for all of the rest of the Police Officers.

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made Jun 22 at 2021 11:50 AM

2021-06-22T11:50:48-04:00

*WATCH*

https://youtu.be/3-zN7A9Wo_M

*{Eventually it’ll sink-in}*

1.) A look at the Casual Killing Act of 1669 that made it legal to kill a slave at will :

1669
Virginia passes an act regarding the casual killing of slaves: "If any slave resist his master (or other by his master’s order correcting him) and by the extremity of the correction should chance to die, that his death shall not be accompted felony."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/face2faceafrica.com/article/a-look-at-the-casual-killing-act-of-1669-that-made-it-legal-to-kill-a-slave-at-will/amp

2.) Slave Patrols: An Early Form of American Policing

July 10, 2019 | Authored by Chelsea Hansen

“I [patroller’s name], do swear, that I will as searcher for guns, swords, and other weapons among the slaves in my district, faithfully, and as privately as I can, discharge the trust reposed in me as the law directs, to the best of my power. So help me, God.”
-Slave Patroller’s Oath, North Carolina, 1828.

Source : The National Law Enforcement Museum

https://lawenforcementmuseum.org/2019/07/10/slave-patrols-an-early-form-of-american-policing/

“The National Law Enforcement Museum is dedicated to telling the story of American law enforcement by providing visitors a “walk in the shoes” experience. The Museum is working to expand and enrich the relationship shared by law enforcement and the community through educational journeys, immersive exhibitions, and insightful programs.”
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“Although the Supreme Court has addressed the circumstances in which police are justified in using deadly force, the Court has not considered the obligation of police officers to render aid to those whom they have shot or injured.”

https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/92251/1/OSJCL_V18N1_391.pdf

*let that sink in*

*** Disclaimer : This a repost from myself, because people are tooooo comfortable with the status quo. ***

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