Are returning veterans terrorist threats?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:39:53 -0400

The Obama administration seems to think that returning Vets that disagree with his policies are terrorists. What do you think?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/?page=all

Napolitano stands by controversial report

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2015 8:43 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:43:21 -0400

Sir, that's a 2009 report. I doubt it's still valid.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Aug 13 at 2015 8:45 PM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:45:28 -0400

I think the administration is blind to the facts and should be transparent amongst the First Amendment (Freedom of Speech)

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 13 at 2015 9:04 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:04:00 -0400

We less of a threat than career politicians who have nearly wrecked our nation

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 13 at 2015 9:06 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:06:31 -0400

We have raised a generation of wimps who don't have a clue about what it takes to defend freedom

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 13 at 2015 9:07 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:07:04 -0400

Thanks for posting.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 13 at 2015 9:07 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:07:58 -0400

Thanks to our PC society this crap won't end anytime soon

Response by LTC John Shaw made Aug 13 at 2015 9:10 PM

LTC John Shaw — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:10:29 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member I remember when this came out. I would like to see an updated threat assessment since Fort Hood. This administration seems to want to look anywhere but the actual threat profile.

Response by LTC Gavin Heater made Aug 13 at 2015 9:17 PM

LTC Gavin Heater — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:17:27 -0400

It is a continually sad state of affairs when our elected and appointed officials fear that the potential threat of wartime veterans meets or exceeds real world external threats.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 13 at 2015 9:57 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:57:30 -0400

I guess this is compelling reason not to go to wars that are unavoidable.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2015 10:15 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:15:01 -0400

Got to think this one over and comment another time. Very serious matter.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Aug 13 at 2015 11:46 PM

COL Ted Mc — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:46:32 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member - Colonel; Are ALL returning veterans terrorist threats? - NO!

Could SOME returning veterans be terrorist threats? - YES.

Are ALL Muslims terrorist threats? - NO!

Could SOME Muslims be terrorist threats? - YES.

Should the government ignore the fact that SOME __[fill in the blank]__ could be terrorist threats just because not all __[fill in the blank]__ are terrorist threats? - __[fill in the blank]__

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Aug 14 at 2015 12:44 AM

SSG Trevor S. — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 00:44:48 -0400

This news was from a long time ago. Still I think it set a precedence for poor relations between Veterans and this administration.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2015 1:11 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:11:20 -0400

So a study is done and a report is issued, and it becomes the administrations fault? Wouldn't a better question be "Do you agree with the report?"
All I see is a click-bait headline, biased reporting, and a series of logical fallacies.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Aug 14 at 2015 1:31 AM

Cpl Chris Rice — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:31:34 -0400

The story posted is quite hot off the presses in 2009, only about six years ago. It seems quite naïve to think that there is no way that military veterans can become involved in organizations and causes which utilize propaganda. In fact if you look at Hitler’s rise it was fueled by disenfranchised military veterans who were attracted to his nationalist rhetoric. I do not believe that their droves of military veterans running off to join right-wing militias who are threatening the federal government, however is the recent attack in Tennessee shows us it only takes one maliciously motivated individual, and is not ridiculous to think that that individual could be a veteran.

The second largest terrorist attack in US history was the Oklahoma city federal building bombing by Timothy McVeigh a veteran of the United States Army, Eric Rudolph the Olympic Park bomber was a US veteran, Wade Michael Page the Sikh temple shooter was US veteran, Frazier Glenn Miller the Kentucky Jewish shooter was a veteran, and Chris Dorner was a veteran. I also wonder how many military veterans were at the Cliven Bundy standoff? I know I saw a great many on the news.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 14 at 2015 2:08 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:08:48 -0400

This is the view from the left and POTUS is a creature of the left. Where is the surprise?

Response by PO3 Bob Walsh made Aug 14 at 2015 2:19 AM

PO3 Bob Walsh — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:19:43 -0400

I would be honored to be listed among terrorist,for my unqualified opposition to abortion. My fear would be; to be listed among the Government officials who are in danger of committing Treason.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 14 at 2015 4:25 AM

PO1 John Miller — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 04:25:31 -0400

This same administration would probably call the Founding Fathers domestic terrorists.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2015 5:07 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 05:07:27 -0400

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2015 8:31 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:31:44 -0400

Perhaps the greater question is this: Who is the more significant threat...those who have sworn to and placed their lives in peril towards the defense of the Constitution...or those possessing the power, influence and ideology to subvert it and disregard its legal basis for their own profit?

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 14 at 2015 8:40 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:40:49 -0400

A quick once over of a lot of threads relating to Fox News, the Oath Keepers, the President, ChemTrails, Transgenders, the Confederate Flag, Jade Helm and other topics make me think it's a solid "maybe". We do seem to have a lot of right wing extremists espousing a great deal of violence...

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Aug 14 at 2015 10:28 AM

SGT Bryon Sergent — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:28:41 -0400

ASk me in 452 days and I will give what I think of this and his stuff that he has done as not to speak ill of the President!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2015 11:02 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:02:44 -0400

I've recently come to realist Washington Times isn't a very unbiased or reliable new organization. The problem is that it sounds like it is. It takes two very reputable companies (New York Times and Washington Post) and combines the names to play on your perception that it is a very good, robustly researching, news organization.

That said, no I don't think returning vets are any more of a threat than the average American citizen. There will be a random bad apple every now and then but by no means in any higher percentage than the normal populace, and I would argue probably significantly lower. What could be used to counter my point is that a veteran's training could enable them to be more effective. That probably offsets the higher amount of patriotism among veterans to make it about equal and NOT an issue that should be singled out.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Aug 14 at 2015 11:52 AM

COL Ted Mc — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:52:28 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member - Colonel; Two further (really minor) points.

[1] That isn't what the report says.

and

[2] That isn't what Ms. Napolitano said.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 14 at 2015 4:21 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 16:21:14 -0400

Here is where the DHS is wrong. They are making the assumption if a veterans feels and thinks this way, he will act on his beliefs. I must admit I have stereotypes, but I don't carry out my beliefs. No foul no harm. Let's hope the DHS is able to discern the real threats from the non-threats.

Response by MSgt Wesley Colberg made Aug 16 at 2015 1:36 AM

MSgt Wesley Colberg — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:36:07 -0400

No, the government is trying to marginalize veterans by making us threats to society