Are you aware that there have been 204 mass shootings in the U.S. thus far in 2015?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:03:19 -0400

LTC Yinon Weiss 's observation that it is logistically impossible to maintain a MP force large enough to protect every recruiting station is correct. His comment caused me to think about every time there is a shooting the response is that the personnel at the location should be armed or armed guards should be present. Is this where we are headed and what would that look like? Last night's shooting in a Louisiana theater marked the 204th mass shooting in the U.S. during 2015. Shootings are occurring in so many venues that it seems impossible to defend against them. Is the answer increasing security? Strengthening gun ownership laws? The main point I'm trying to make here is that after each shooting we hear the same thing that personnel should be armed or that armed guards should be present. Are there alternatives to this reaction and if so what ideas does the rest of the community have?

http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015

Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker

Response by TSgt David L. made Jul 24 at 2015 7:15 PM

TSgt David L. — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:15:55 -0400

LTC Yinon Weiss, What are the stats for previous years? Is it a sharp increase or business as usual? Question 2, what gun ownership law would you like to see strengthened? Looking forward to your response.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2015 7:26 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:26:55 -0400

This is a gross misinterpretation of mass shootings. They are turning just about every case of gun violence into a mass shooting. There were casings that I read on that website were it was a drive by but if a gang member fired multiple shots into a party this website called it a mass shooting. I wouldn't go that far. That is just gang violence. In a lot of those from that site no one was killed.

I think they should clarify what they are trying to say instead of linking a bunch of random shootings and calling them all a mass shooting. But this provides some good info.

Just some more info. Detroit in had 309 murders in one year. I don't think mass shootings are the biggest issue we have.

The first mass shooting on you website happened after two people got into a verbal augment at a club. One guy got into a bus and the other one got into this car and then fired on the bus. I don't think that is on par what what they want you to think.

2 things to know about America's mass shooting epidemic

Under one definition, these shootings are getting more common.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2015 7:32 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:32:35 -0400

How many of these shootings was done with a gun legally held by the shooter?

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jul 25 at 2015 1:53 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:53:37 -0400

It should be noticed that the shooter killed himself as soon as he was confronted by the police. He would not likely have continued shooting, reloading, and shooting again if confronted sooner by armed personnel - either police or CCW licensed civilians.

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Jul 25 at 2015 2:04 AM

Maj Mike Sciales — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 02:04:30 -0400

Reagan shut down mental hospitals in the 80s. In fairness they were snake pits, but 30 years later we have a need. The police and jails aren't equipped to deal with or warehouse and treat these people. We have plenty of guns but there are just too many and access is too easy. The Louisiana shooter was a known nut - nothing available to help him & protect us. We can't keep just accepting these losses. Some Navy recruiter brought his own gun to work for protection and shot himself in the thigh. This won't get better until we make an intelligent decision.

Response by PO1 Shahida Marmol made Jul 25 at 2015 3:05 AM

PO1 Shahida Marmol — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:05:55 -0400

I left stateside earlier this year. Unless it was really announced by the media, I had no clue. It's a sad time for our country, and I often worry about my children.