As a prior-service reclassifying to 11X, do I have to start at Day 0?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 11:40:07 -0400

So im considered "Prior Service" but i never ETS'd im switching from Guard to Active as an 11X recruit (signed the papers today) ive been told im starting at day 0 by the counselor. Wouldnt i have to start at the second half of OSUT ? I was told i would never have to go to basic training again.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Oct 18 at 2019 12:36 PM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:36:02 -0400

Call the school house and ask. OSUT is now 22 weeks, is 16 weeks instead of 22 a deal breaker?
Switching to Infantry is a huge change in lifestyle and I am not sure that I wouldn't advise starting day one. The prior service people weren't hassled as much as long as they knew their stuff, but physically it's another world.
Enlisted and Commission as a Grunt.

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Oct 18 at 2019 12:42 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:42:56 -0400

Probably not, but probably earlier than you might hope. Based on when all of our reclasses showed up throughout OSUT.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 18 at 2019 3:07 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 15:07:19 -0400

No... you got this backwards... You don't re-class TO 11X, you re-class FROM 11X... Why would someone rush to inevitable homelessness and MC'employment? Somewhere out there is a recruiter who should not be able to sleep at night with the burden on his soul...

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Oct 18 at 2019 11:01 PM

SPC Erich Guenther — Fri, 18 Oct 2019 23:01:45 -0400

They changed the rules after they eliminated the Warrior Transition Course at Fort Sill, OK. Everyone goes through full Infantry OSUT again if it has been more than 3 years since your last time on Active Duty in the 11 series MOS (National Guard time does not count). This is how it was in the early 1980's so this is a return to the old system of training.....that I fell under way back when I was in uniform. If it has been less than 3 years since your ADA BCT then potentially you will get more advanced placement in OSUT but it is also dependent on the PT test assessment they will give you and they will look for your most recent rifle qualification. If both are out of date, you start earlier in OSUT. If both are up to date and look good, potentially they could start you later but not a whole lot later.

What you were promised about not repeating BCT ever again could be true if you stayed on Active Duty your entire time in ADA or related MOS. Once you leave Active Duty though the clock starts ticking as your last Active Duty for Training (ADT) time fades into the past.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2019 11:27 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:27:37 -0500

*Update* So im currently at Benning doing the whole reception gig, Prior Service guys were all separated from the Boots. Only the Navy/Airforce guys have to go to day 0 and everyone else without break of service gets inserted.