SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6396161 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A Little background, I was promoted to E5 last Dec and due to primarily VBA&#39;s, I havent had the opportunity to grow in my rank, but was thinking of the following situation<br />--<br />I ask a soldier a question pertaining to their job and they cop an attitude, so I bring that soldier to parade rest (only the two of us are in the office) and ask for an explanation. <br />Just then their NCOIC walks in, asks what going on and tells the soldier to sit and dismisses me. <br />---<br />IMO this is the senior giving the solder &quot;permission&quot; to disrespect which is not &quot;proper&quot;. <br /> <br />How would, could should one handle this situation should it arise?<br />Just want to reiterate, this is completely hypothetical, I have one seen it happen before I was an NCO.<br />On one hand, I could stand my ground and cause an possible issue with the NCOIC, which the soldier could interpret as me either its ok to disrespect my senior, or me not backing down when I know Im in the right.<br />Im sure this situation as played out in many ways, and I would like to know you experiences to help my abilities grow as an NCO . Can a senior NCO order a Junior NCO to not discipline a soldier if the infraction if the soldier was disrespectful to them? 2020-10-12T20:53:38-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6396161 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A Little background, I was promoted to E5 last Dec and due to primarily VBA&#39;s, I havent had the opportunity to grow in my rank, but was thinking of the following situation<br />--<br />I ask a soldier a question pertaining to their job and they cop an attitude, so I bring that soldier to parade rest (only the two of us are in the office) and ask for an explanation. <br />Just then their NCOIC walks in, asks what going on and tells the soldier to sit and dismisses me. <br />---<br />IMO this is the senior giving the solder &quot;permission&quot; to disrespect which is not &quot;proper&quot;. <br /> <br />How would, could should one handle this situation should it arise?<br />Just want to reiterate, this is completely hypothetical, I have one seen it happen before I was an NCO.<br />On one hand, I could stand my ground and cause an possible issue with the NCOIC, which the soldier could interpret as me either its ok to disrespect my senior, or me not backing down when I know Im in the right.<br />Im sure this situation as played out in many ways, and I would like to know you experiences to help my abilities grow as an NCO . Can a senior NCO order a Junior NCO to not discipline a soldier if the infraction if the soldier was disrespectful to them? 2020-10-12T20:53:38-04:00 2020-10-12T20:53:38-04:00 SGM Private RallyPoint Member 6396203 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hypothetically? Yes.<br />In real life I have never seen this happen.<br /><br />The only three scenarios I can think of where this could happen (in descending order of likelihood) are:<br /><br />1.if the junior enlisted is already a chapter case, and the senior NCO is only trying to de-escalate a situation that might blow up into more paperwork delaying the chapter.<br /><br />2. if the new NCO was actually wrong about the issue at hand, and the copped attitude (real or perceived) was the joe explaining it.<br /><br />3. a bad senior NCO.<br /><br />In the first two cases, the senior NCO would not explain this in front of the junior enlisted. Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2020 9:15 PM 2020-10-12T21:15:57-04:00 2020-10-12T21:15:57-04:00 SPC Nancy Greene 6396326 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>@SGT Kevin Smith <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="171463" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/171463-25b-information-technology-specialist">SGT Private RallyPoint Member</a>, I commend you for increasing your knowledge as an NCO by asking this question! Best of Luck and Congratulations on becoming an NCO! Response by SPC Nancy Greene made Oct 12 at 2020 10:02 PM 2020-10-12T22:02:40-04:00 2020-10-12T22:02:40-04:00 SSG Roger Ayscue 6396488 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From the wording of your situation I can infer that the Soldier in question was not your Soldier, but was the Soldier of the Senior NCO. In this case, the Senior NCO might have information that you did not have, and wanted the backstory. The Senior could have sent the Soldier to do a task, that you were either stopping him from doing or your inquiry should have been addressed to the Senior.<br />IN any case, the Senior NCO should have gotten with you and 1) gotten your account of the events, and 2) Relayed to you the entirety of the event, whether or not you were in the right so that you can learn from it as the Senior NCO knows you are a new NCO.<br /><br />Counseling or Correcting someone else&#39;s trooper is always a touchy subject, and you leave out much of the background here. If you witness an offense taking immediate action is a choice you can make, but consider that if it were not life or mission threatening, and was not of an illegal nature, your first best step might have been to go to that Senior NCO with what you saw. If you felt strongly enough about it, put it in writing. Something in writing is very hard to dismiss.<br />Good luck to you as you grow and develop as an NCO. Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Oct 12 at 2020 11:16 PM 2020-10-12T23:16:33-04:00 2020-10-12T23:16:33-04:00 SGT Samuel Wilson 6397486 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bro I to have had many seniors pull stunts like what you are saying, I would personally stand my ground especially when it was deliberately done right there. I was in the Army for 13 years and I was taught the old school ways and that was to fix the problem ASAP no wait get it done. If that senior gets me I get my senior and make sure to explain everything to them about the situation and ask then! I was in an Infantry Brigade so my NCOs whether mine or someone else&#39;s got dealt with accordingly, they wanted all JNCOs to do their job and not walk by and see shit happen and not say something about it. Response by SGT Samuel Wilson made Oct 13 at 2020 8:06 AM 2020-10-13T08:06:16-04:00 2020-10-13T08:06:16-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6438638 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I appreciate all the valuable pointers and will use them as I move forward. Thanks all.. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2020 10:12 PM 2020-10-25T22:12:03-04:00 2020-10-25T22:12:03-04:00 2020-10-12T20:53:38-04:00