SPC Tate Smith 2233474 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-144621"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Can+a+veteran+wear+their+service+uniform+with+facial+hair%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ACan a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="9dde0667c62dda00de42458f54137687" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/144/621/for_gallery_v2/cb406f75.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/144/621/large_v3/cb406f75.jpg" alt="Cb406f75" /></a></div></div>I am planning on wearing my uniform to an appropriate event but have since grown a beard. I have looked for he answer in AR670-1 and 10 USC 772 but can not find the answer any help would be greatly appreciated. Can a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair? 2017-01-09T21:48:22-05:00 SPC Tate Smith 2233474 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-144621"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Can+a+veteran+wear+their+service+uniform+with+facial+hair%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ACan a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="34552cdeee72b24dbcd2d4c7fe3086e5" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/144/621/for_gallery_v2/cb406f75.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/144/621/large_v3/cb406f75.jpg" alt="Cb406f75" /></a></div></div>I am planning on wearing my uniform to an appropriate event but have since grown a beard. I have looked for he answer in AR670-1 and 10 USC 772 but can not find the answer any help would be greatly appreciated. Can a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair? 2017-01-09T21:48:22-05:00 2017-01-09T21:48:22-05:00 SGM Mikel Dawson 2233490 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I haven&#39;t looked at the regs, just my own standards: If you put the uniform on, then get to standards. I will not wear my uniform again because I have a beard and don&#39;t want to shave. I see no problem wearing medals on a suit/tux to this function which is perfectly ok. Listen the admin POGS took this down as I posted it earlier. <br />Check out this page:<a target="_blank" href="https://www.thebalance.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978">https://www.thebalance.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.thebalance.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978">Military Uniform Rules for Retirees and Veterans</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Retired military members and certain honorably discharged veterans may wear the US Military uniform on certain occasions.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jan 9 at 2017 9:53 PM 2017-01-09T21:53:24-05:00 2017-01-09T21:53:24-05:00 MSgt George Cater 2233495 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Frankly, I&#39;m not sure about Army regs on this, but contrary to Robert DeNiro in the &quot;Deer Hunter&quot;, not being in grooming regs when you put on your uniform puts you in the same category visually as a bum on the corner wearing a cammie coat. I personally assume anyone out of grooming regs to be a stolen valor warrior Response by MSgt George Cater made Jan 9 at 2017 9:54 PM 2017-01-09T21:54:30-05:00 2017-01-09T21:54:30-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 2233501 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The book answer is no. If you wear the uniform as a veteran for an appropriate event, you are supposed to adhere to all uniform standards (height, weight, grooming etc.). Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2017 9:57 PM 2017-01-09T21:57:18-05:00 2017-01-09T21:57:18-05:00 LTC Stephen C. 2233568 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="403397" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/403397-spc-tate-smith">SPC Tate Smith</a>, the answer is NO. AR 670-1, para 3-2.a.(2)(b) Facial Hair. Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform.<br />This paragraph applies to anyone wearing the uniform to include veterans and retirees, since Chapter 23 allows no difference or flexibility for wear of the uniform by retirees or former members of the Army (veterans). <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="392324" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/392324-sgm-mikel-dawson">SGM Mikel Dawson</a> has the right idea.<br /> Response by LTC Stephen C. made Jan 9 at 2017 10:25 PM 2017-01-09T22:25:44-05:00 2017-01-09T22:25:44-05:00 COL Charles Williams 2233615 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NOOOOO, and why would want to? Response by COL Charles Williams made Jan 9 at 2017 10:41 PM 2017-01-09T22:41:54-05:00 2017-01-09T22:41:54-05:00 LTC Jason Mackay 2233618 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The 10 USC 772 sends you to 32 CFR Part 53 (reserve component) when looking at former members of the armed forces.<br /><br />AR 670-1 Chapter 23. Para 23-2<br />(4) When attending social functions or informal gatherings of a military character. All current and former Soldiers will conform to the wear and appearance standards in this regulation while wearing the uniform under the provisions of this chapter. Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jan 9 at 2017 10:45 PM 2017-01-09T22:45:12-05:00 2017-01-09T22:45:12-05:00 SSG Lyle O'Rorke 2233652 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The book and reg answer is no but then again since you are not under UCMJ any more there really is little anyone can do beside be douche bags and attempt to call you out but not know shit about you. I wouldn&#39;t personally wear mine again, with the exception of old BDUs for hunting or camping, or my ribbons. I know what I earned and did and don&#39;t need the uniform to show it off Response by SSG Lyle O'Rorke made Jan 9 at 2017 11:10 PM 2017-01-09T23:10:47-05:00 2017-01-09T23:10:47-05:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 2233663 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave your beard, and grow it back after the event. Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2017 11:16 PM 2017-01-09T23:16:21-05:00 2017-01-09T23:16:21-05:00 CW3 Harvey K. 2233666 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I last wore my uniform to my brother&#39;s military funeral. I too have a beard, which I grew immediately on my retirement from the service, some 15 years ago. <br />I didn&#39;t question the regs. I personally think beards should be allowed in the Military, but regs are regs. I shaved my beard without hesitation, wore my uniform with pride, and re-grew my beard in just a few weeks. It was no big sacrifice.<br />BTW -- I kept my &quot;regulation mustache&quot; which predates the beard by decades. Response by CW3 Harvey K. made Jan 9 at 2017 11:17 PM 2017-01-09T23:17:24-05:00 2017-01-09T23:17:24-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 2233683 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I heard if you wear long underwear, shave an eyebrow and spray yourself with pepper spray you are good to go...Joke. No, you can not and not should you want to...Roll with looking like a Soldier even if you are a retired! Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2017 11:25 PM 2017-01-09T23:25:39-05:00 2017-01-09T23:25:39-05:00 SGT Anna Kleinschmidt 2233721 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wouldn&#39;t wear my hair down in my uniform. I just wouldn&#39;t feel right being out of uniform. Response by SGT Anna Kleinschmidt made Jan 9 at 2017 11:48 PM 2017-01-09T23:48:58-05:00 2017-01-09T23:48:58-05:00 SMSgt Lawrence McCarter 2233823 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This simple answer is NO (Except a mustache that is within standards) USAF AFI36-2903 and also Army Regulation AR670-1, Paragraph 30-4 both state the uniform can only be worn if it meets the standards that were required while You were still serving. Also both state You must meet the grooming and weight standards that are required of those still serving. That is the standard for all branches of the armed Forces. The standard does not change for uniform wear because You are a Veteran or retiree of the US Armed Forces. You can wear the uniform that was issued while You served as long as it still meets the standards that were in effect during that time of service. There are still some restrictions on when the uniform can be worn also, Military appropriate functions are fine, never on political events ! I hope that answers Your question. Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Jan 10 at 2017 1:00 AM 2017-01-10T01:00:51-05:00 2017-01-10T01:00:51-05:00 SFC Dennis A. 2234298 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Even if it was authorized I wouldn&#39;t, it just doesn&#39;t look right. Response by SFC Dennis A. made Jan 10 at 2017 7:49 AM 2017-01-10T07:49:28-05:00 2017-01-10T07:49:28-05:00 SSG Darryl Mink 2234775 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>get a doctors note Response by SSG Darryl Mink made Jan 10 at 2017 10:30 AM 2017-01-10T10:30:53-05:00 2017-01-10T10:30:53-05:00 SPC Brian Mason 2235055 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yeah, no. <br />If one is going to wear their uniform after service, everything needs to be held to AR 670-1 standards. Last I checked, we took an oath I know I still uphold. I keep some growth on my face, but haven&#39;t worn mine for at least 4 years ago. Keep the standard, exceed the minimum. Response by SPC Brian Mason made Jan 10 at 2017 11:52 AM 2017-01-10T11:52:24-05:00 2017-01-10T11:52:24-05:00 CAPT Kevin B. 2235060 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ll offer up some counterpoint just to complete the picture. Army types seen to be more reg focused than other services. There&#39;s a reg for everything and they spend a career following them. So the official answer is no. The practical answer is if you do, who cares and what can they do? For the most part nobody and for the second answer, nothing. That said, it&#39;s a matter of how you feel about it. I&#39;ve been out a long time but like my profile picture shows, I&#39;m &quot;legal&quot; when I put on a uniform. After 32 years, it&#39;s the only way I know how to do it. I have a beard now. However I don&#39;t shave it to wear a BDU cover to put flags on Vet graves. I&#39;m just too used to wearing a cover when I salute my fallen comrades. If some punk ass tells me about not liking what I&#39;m wearing, an ass chewing will ensue. Don&#39;t tell me how I grieve my lost shipmates. Bottom line, up to you but look sharp. Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jan 10 at 2017 11:54 AM 2017-01-10T11:54:04-05:00 2017-01-10T11:54:04-05:00 MSgt Mark Bucher 2238117 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In a nutshell, NO. Have to be within grooming standards Response by MSgt Mark Bucher made Jan 11 at 2017 9:02 AM 2017-01-11T09:02:32-05:00 2017-01-11T09:02:32-05:00 SSG Roger Ayscue 2244089 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Only if you convert to being a Sikh or Self-Identify as a Basset Hound Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jan 13 at 2017 1:06 AM 2017-01-13T01:06:30-05:00 2017-01-13T01:06:30-05:00 SMSgt Thor Merich 2263355 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. When wearing the uniform, you still need to meet the required grooming standards. Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Jan 19 at 2017 1:25 PM 2017-01-19T13:25:40-05:00 2017-01-19T13:25:40-05:00 MSgt Neil Greenfield 2379306 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Watch the video at this link. About a minute and half, you will see an exemplary example of what you&#39;re talking about. <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://vimeo.com/168831511">https://vimeo.com/168831511</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-vimeo"> <div class="pta-link-card-video"> <iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/168831511?autoplay=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://vimeo.com/168831511">City of Dublin Memorial Day - Monday, May 30, 2016</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The City of Dublin, in partnership with the Wesley G. Davids Dublin Post 800 of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars Dublin Post 10691, hosted the…</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Feb 28 at 2017 10:25 AM 2017-02-28T10:25:13-05:00 2017-02-28T10:25:13-05:00 PO3 John Keas 2484159 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t even need to look up the regs...I remember seeing several retirees, they were talking about how they had to. They were reading another retiree the riot act because he didn&#39;t shave. They actually dragged him into a barbershop and forced him to ger a shave and a haircut. I about died laughing. Response by PO3 John Keas made Apr 10 at 2017 11:19 AM 2017-04-10T11:19:04-04:00 2017-04-10T11:19:04-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2484308 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Facial hair? Yes. As in mustache. Beard? No. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2017 12:21 PM 2017-04-10T12:21:41-04:00 2017-04-10T12:21:41-04:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 2484330 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>honest curiosity. Ive seen a few posts about people wearing uniform after they&#39;re no longer in the military. I am still in for a few months but could someone please explain to me why you would do such a thing? Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2017 12:33 PM 2017-04-10T12:33:38-04:00 2017-04-10T12:33:38-04:00 SGT Mathew Husen 2484913 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If for some reason I have to wear Class As, then I would follow grooming standards, however, im hunting, fishing or working and decide to use my old BDUs I&#39;m more than likely sporting a beard and no one will tell me otherwise. Hell, I still use one of my old field jackets as my winter coat. Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Apr 10 at 2017 4:47 PM 2017-04-10T16:47:01-04:00 2017-04-10T16:47:01-04:00 SGT Beau Thomas 2485062 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Many members of my VFW post, which is 100% community service based(no bar) wear beards and while wearing their Class A&#39;s. They aren&#39;t subject to any UCMJ laws. These former service members do 5-10 funeral honor guards a week, Eagle Scout ceremonies, community service and education, school functions and the list goes on and on. They do this all on their own dime. The 670-1 is a suggestion for retired service members, not a requirement. These former war time servicemembers bring great honor to the military, regardless if they are not in current height-weight or grooming standards. Response by SGT Beau Thomas made Apr 10 at 2017 5:56 PM 2017-04-10T17:56:30-04:00 2017-04-10T17:56:30-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 2485320 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why did you choose to use him as an example? Do you even know who that is and what he was doing while that picture was taken? If not maybe you should educate yourself! Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2017 8:59 PM 2017-04-10T20:59:30-04:00 2017-04-10T20:59:30-04:00 MSG Nile Harris 2485455 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would wear my beard with my uniform if I were in Afghanistan... which is where this picture was taken... Every time I and the guy in this picture went to Afghanistan we wore beards so... now that he is retired and visiting Afghanistan as a combat wounded warrior (double amputee in Afghanistan) on a goodwill tour if he didn&#39;t wear a beard he&#39;d look out of place and most of his friends there wouldn&#39;t recognize him. So end of a long story, some people are more special than others... in fact it says so on our uniforms :p Response by MSG Nile Harris made Apr 10 at 2017 9:52 PM 2017-04-10T21:52:47-04:00 2017-04-10T21:52:47-04:00 CSM Jr Jones 2485462 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wear of the uniform by former members of the Army<br />Found in Section 30.4 Page 315<br /><br />Applies to Gender Both<br /><br /><br />a. Unless qualified under another provision of this regulation, or under the provisions of section 772, title 10, United States Code (10 USC 772), former members of the Army may wear the uniform if they served honorably during a declared or undeclared war, and if their most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions. Personnel who qualify under these conditions will wear the Army uniform in the highest grade they held during such war service, in accordance with 10 USC 772. <br /><br />b. The uniform is authorized for wear only for the following ceremonial occasions, and when traveling to and from the ceremony or function. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn. <br /><br />(1) When attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony. <br /><br />(2) When attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above, is prohibited. Response by CSM Jr Jones made Apr 10 at 2017 9:54 PM 2017-04-10T21:54:51-04:00 2017-04-10T21:54:51-04:00 SSG Deron Santiny 2485539 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is the guy you are questioning. He is not some POG that decided to put on a uniform and pretend he was something he isn&#39;t. The best advice you can receive is, do your research before calling someone out on something. I know him personally and I can promise you, he doesn&#39;t disrespect the uniform, the Army or the country. MSG Corbin is the Soldier that most in the Army can only pretend to be. Just clarifying this, you have a lot of guys on here who haven&#39;t got a clue who they are talking about yet, throw out terms like &quot;Stolen Valor&quot;, well, I am pretty sure they may not have been allowed to wear a beard while in uniform but, I know for a fact he was allowed to.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://combatwounded.org/challenge/challenge-warriors-bios/challenge-warrior-chris-corbin/">http://combatwounded.org/challenge/challenge-warriors-bios/challenge-warrior-chris-corbin/</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/164/183/qrc/Chris-Corbin-THEN.jpg?1491878946"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://combatwounded.org/challenge/challenge-warriors-bios/challenge-warrior-chris-corbin/">Challenge Warrior - Chris Corbin - Combat Wounded Veteran Challenge</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">SFC CHRIS CORBIN, USA, GREEN BERET Sergeant First Class Chris Corbin entered military service in July 1995. Prior to becoming a Green Beret with the 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne) he served in various other Army units such as the 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division, and the 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. On February 17th, …</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by SSG Deron Santiny made Apr 10 at 2017 10:53 PM 2017-04-10T22:53:22-04:00 2017-04-10T22:53:22-04:00 SPC Herold Bush 2485619 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You don&#39;t happen to be Sikh do you? If not are you willing to convert? That would keep you in regulation. Response by SPC Herold Bush made Apr 10 at 2017 11:36 PM 2017-04-10T23:36:47-04:00 2017-04-10T23:36:47-04:00 PFC Dalton Rupert 2485749 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would say shave it the beard and stay within regs like you are still in while wearing it. That way you won&#39;t have people running up to you claiming stolen Valor etc etc. Response by PFC Dalton Rupert made Apr 11 at 2017 2:08 AM 2017-04-11T02:08:03-04:00 2017-04-11T02:08:03-04:00 SSG James Swarr 2486489 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I personally would not have this problem as my uniform must have shrank since my release in 1999 and I can no longer wear it...but, my opinion is if you are going to wear the uniform after whatever type separation you have, follow the regs. The only exception I might see is if you wear your camo for some recreation type activity. Just remove the patches....rank, US ARMY tape, etc. Response by SSG James Swarr made Apr 11 at 2017 12:03 PM 2017-04-11T12:03:48-04:00 2017-04-11T12:03:48-04:00 SSG Deron Santiny 2486726 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why did you change the picture? Nice try, you think by changing the picture you can take the focus off of the fact that you ignorantly called out a REAL WARRIOR for having a beard in uniform? The picture you had up prior to this one was of a friend of mine and I can say that his beard has probably seen more combat than you will ever see. Response by SSG Deron Santiny made Apr 11 at 2017 1:28 PM 2017-04-11T13:28:53-04:00 2017-04-11T13:28:53-04:00 SSgt Kevin Campbell 2837571 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I used to wear a Slant Pocket Vietnam Era jacket when I was in high school, I had John Lennon Length hair at a time when men&#39;s hair styles were either short and loaded with hair gel or a mullet where as I looked like I was trapped in 1968. <br />If you want to wear a military uniform and beard in a way that absolutely no one can object to you&#39;ve got to think outside the box... Civil War Union Uniform! Think about it, side burns that could choke a donkey, a beard as long as McClellan is tall and Mutton Chops so large that they can straddle the Mason-Dixon Line and would still leave enough room to provide shade for yourself, Both General George Meade and Joseph Hooker as well as <br />the corpse of a freshly strangled donkey. Response by SSgt Kevin Campbell made Aug 16 at 2017 10:07 AM 2017-08-16T10:07:26-04:00 2017-08-16T10:07:26-04:00 SFC Jim Ruether 3057531 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave it off and grow it back later! You are in uniform and regs address that whether you are active duty or retired. You don&#39;t qualify for relaxed standards so shave it and regrow it. Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Nov 2 at 2017 4:50 PM 2017-11-02T16:50:34-04:00 2017-11-02T16:50:34-04:00 CAPT Kevin B. 3057658 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-187538"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Can+a+veteran+wear+their+service+uniform+with+facial+hair%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ACan a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="b99143f65dc7b9e2b06040dd7dc9d47c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/187/538/for_gallery_v2/92cf7549.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/187/538/large_v3/92cf7549.jpg" alt="92cf7549" /></a></div></div>Didn&#39;t need to be a Vet to have a beard when it was pretty much essential. Times change. Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Nov 2 at 2017 5:46 PM 2017-11-02T17:46:13-04:00 2017-11-02T17:46:13-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 3057696 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>(b) Facial hair. Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform, or in civilian clothes on duty. Mustaches are permitted. If worn, males will keep mustaches neatly trimmed, tapered, and tidy. Mustaches will not present a chopped off or bushy appearance, and no portion of the mustache will cover the upper lip line, extend sideways beyond a vertical line drawn upward from the corners of the mouth (see lines C and D of fig 3–1), or extend above a parallel line at the lowest portion of the nose (see line B of fig 3–1). Handlebar mustaches, goatees, and beards are not authorized. If appropriate medical authority allows beard growth, the maximum length authorized for medical treatment must be spe-cific. For example, “The length of the beard cannot exceed 1/4 inch” (see TB Med 287). Soldiers will keep the growth trimmed to the level specified by the appropriate medical authority, but are not authorized to shape the hair growth (ex-amples include, but are not limited to, goatees, “Fu Manchu,” or handlebar mustaches).<br />AR 670–1 • 25 May 2017<br />3–2. Hair and fingernail standards and grooming policies<br /><br />I hope you fine this information helpful. Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 6:01 PM 2017-11-02T18:01:37-04:00 2017-11-02T18:01:37-04:00 MSG Floyd Williams 3057828 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see it all the time. Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Nov 2 at 2017 6:57 PM 2017-11-02T18:57:18-04:00 2017-11-02T18:57:18-04:00 LCpl Oscar Diaz 3510772 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Common sense tells me no! We were always neatly shaved so that should be the rule! Response by LCpl Oscar Diaz made Apr 4 at 2018 6:49 AM 2018-04-04T06:49:10-04:00 2018-04-04T06:49:10-04:00 SFC Sid Grant 3517657 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I concur with Chief Keck, I was asked to do a last call for a friend who had passed. I grew my beard right after Retirement and shaved for this occasion. Beards do grow back, it was an honor to attend and be a part in uniform. Response by SFC Sid Grant made Apr 6 at 2018 11:47 AM 2018-04-06T11:47:50-04:00 2018-04-06T11:47:50-04:00 MSG Robert Wise 3538187 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Doesn’t say anything about grooming just that you will wear the uniform in the same manner as AA. Response by MSG Robert Wise made Apr 12 at 2018 5:11 PM 2018-04-12T17:11:54-04:00 2018-04-12T17:11:54-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 3538190 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The uniform is a representation of pride and professionalism and should always reflect that. Hair, any hair, becomes part of the uniform when you wear it. So, get your hair cut to standard, shave the beard, and grow it back when the event is over. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2018 5:12 PM 2018-04-12T17:12:06-04:00 2018-04-12T17:12:06-04:00 SGT Justin Singleton 3538411 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My DD214 says I do what I want. That said, I would not wear the uniform with a beard. It would feel wrong. Response by SGT Justin Singleton made Apr 12 at 2018 6:30 PM 2018-04-12T18:30:59-04:00 2018-04-12T18:30:59-04:00 LCDR Tim McKenzie 3538790 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do yourself a favor and shave the food trap off. Response by LCDR Tim McKenzie made Apr 12 at 2018 10:17 PM 2018-04-12T22:17:41-04:00 2018-04-12T22:17:41-04:00 MAJ Raúl Rovira 3539016 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If I am dead and my NCOIC comes to my funeral in uniform with a beard... from heaven or hell I will salute him for that. Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Apr 13 at 2018 12:02 AM 2018-04-13T00:02:58-04:00 2018-04-13T00:02:58-04:00 COL Billy Langdon 3539748 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wear your medals on civilian suit or shave. Response by COL Billy Langdon made Apr 13 at 2018 9:43 AM 2018-04-13T09:43:58-04:00 2018-04-13T09:43:58-04:00 SP5 Dennis Loberger 3539873 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I put on a uniform I want my appearance to show my pride in my military background. I do this by getting my hair cut, being clean shaven and having my uniform meet the standards as if I were still in. I even wear my dog tags. I may have left the Army, but it never left me Response by SP5 Dennis Loberger made Apr 13 at 2018 10:32 AM 2018-04-13T10:32:24-04:00 2018-04-13T10:32:24-04:00 A1C Aaron Brownewell 3540200 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The answer is simple, no. While you wear the uniform even as a Veteran, all hair needs to be in regs. As a member of the VFW, when we have events that require a dress uniform, these older men still shave. Please do not disrespect the uniform. Response by A1C Aaron Brownewell made Apr 13 at 2018 12:30 PM 2018-04-13T12:30:23-04:00 2018-04-13T12:30:23-04:00 SFC Familia Gonzalez 3540853 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely not... Wear the uniform as you would on active duty (Probably a few pounds heavier...) or don’t wear it at all... You can always regrow your beard... Response by SFC Familia Gonzalez made Apr 13 at 2018 4:44 PM 2018-04-13T16:44:32-04:00 2018-04-13T16:44:32-04:00 SFC Carlos Cruz 3541089 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Only Team Guys can wear there uniform with beard down range only. If they are state side &amp; getting ready to return back down range is allowed. If you are n’t a team guy you need to follow Army standards is very simple &amp; comment cents. I am retired if I have to attend a event in my uniform I will n’t be out of uniform by wearing a beard lol come on make cents. Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made Apr 13 at 2018 6:24 PM 2018-04-13T18:24:35-04:00 2018-04-13T18:24:35-04:00 WO1 Mike Dwyer 3541092 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve been to some functions where there were retired officers with beards, and one with a ponytail, wearing their mess jacket with a Scottish kilt! Since I have a beard and have gained a massive amount of weight I would never wear a uniform. I do wear miniatures on a tux on occasion. Response by WO1 Mike Dwyer made Apr 13 at 2018 6:26 PM 2018-04-13T18:26:37-04:00 2018-04-13T18:26:37-04:00 SGT Daniel Rocco Ames 3541473 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Does anyone know if MSG Corbin was in the Tikrit ODA during OIF 06-07? It says he was 3BCT 82d, which was my Brigade when I was in. We used to run missions with those guys. I was so jealous of them, they had an M-249 AND an M240B in their turrets, as well as an AT4, and some still had M79s. I was a turret gunner for most of those 15 months, so I was on see of their weaponry. We also got mortared on their compound, and between those ODA guys and the Peshmerga that neighborhood was lit up like Christmas! Response by SGT Daniel Rocco Ames made Apr 13 at 2018 9:19 PM 2018-04-13T21:19:27-04:00 2018-04-13T21:19:27-04:00 LTC George Heart 3541561 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Off course not. Join a veterans service organization and then wear their garrison cap and your medals or ribbons on a suit. That is certainly acceotable and you will stand out as a veteran!!! I am in the Jewish War Veterans, and proudly wear my veterans&#39; garrison cap! Response by LTC George Heart made Apr 13 at 2018 9:56 PM 2018-04-13T21:56:52-04:00 2018-04-13T21:56:52-04:00 SSG Joshua Tanton 3541750 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Reg is the Standard. AR 670-1 clearly states what you can and can’t do with facial hair. Even if you have a profile. You wouldn’t be able to exceed 1/4 inch (I believe). Just to be safe and to honor the uniform. Just shave. Grow it back later. Response by SSG Joshua Tanton made Apr 13 at 2018 10:59 PM 2018-04-13T22:59:13-04:00 2018-04-13T22:59:13-04:00 SGT Brianna MacKinnon 3541776 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Before I transitioned I would ALWAYS shave and get a good military haircut for any occasion when I felt my Class A&#39;s were the proper attire. For me, it was getting a good military haircut that affected me most. After I transitioned I gave my Class A&#39;s to my present VFW Post Commander as it was no longer an appropriate uniform for me. I would love to get a female Service Uniform but at present can not afford one so now I either wear my VFW Color Guard Uniform or my VFW Officer&#39;s Blue&#39;s and Gray&#39;s. Response by SGT Brianna MacKinnon made Apr 13 at 2018 11:09 PM 2018-04-13T23:09:13-04:00 2018-04-13T23:09:13-04:00 SPC Clint Miller 3541940 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If I ever want to put the uniform on again for any reason that I think is appropriate, I will be sporting my long badass beard. Fuck AR670-1, my civilian ass no longer has to abide by those micro-managing regulations. I will wear the uniform the same way I wore it when I honorably served in the United States Army but with a beard if I choose too. Let the first &quot;paper fabricated war hero&quot; try to talk shit to me about the beard and I guarantee it will be the last time he or she will ever feel the need to put their nose into another person&#39;s business. <br />*End of Rant, I just get tired of all of the fucking 24/7 HOOAH! Veteran&#39;s that need to leave the military lifestyle and rank behind* Response by SPC Clint Miller made Apr 14 at 2018 12:58 AM 2018-04-14T00:58:05-04:00 2018-04-14T00:58:05-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 3542417 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you want to wear your uniform? Get you a nice suit and keep your beard.. if you are wanting people to know you served get you a tie tac or a lapel pin... just that simple if you are wanting the attention. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2018 8:11 AM 2018-04-14T08:11:02-04:00 2018-04-14T08:11:02-04:00 SGT Kevin Foley 3543266 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I took my granddaughter to her 1st daddy daughter dance last year Ive been out a little while over 3 years at the time I had a beard and decided to shave it off to wear my dress blues (probably for last time) I was always proud to wear my uniform in regulation while I was in and beleive I should keep in regulation even though Im out its all about pride for me. She was so happy that night would do it again in a heartbeat! Response by SGT Kevin Foley made Apr 14 at 2018 1:40 PM 2018-04-14T13:40:01-04:00 2018-04-14T13:40:01-04:00 MAJ Mark Epps 3543361 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I too have grown a beard since retiring and should I ever have occasion to try to squeeze by enlarged ass into a uniform again I would just shave. It takes no time at all to grow a beard, for me anyway. In the long run it’ll probably save you some grief from someone trying to claim stolen valor because you have a beard. Response by MAJ Mark Epps made Apr 14 at 2018 2:35 PM 2018-04-14T14:35:26-04:00 2018-04-14T14:35:26-04:00 1SG Rob Smith 3543577 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The most seen unit in the US Army is the Old Guard. Google their photos. That is the example and standard that anyone who wears the uniform regardless of what the reg says. Thats how its been thats how it is and should always be. Dont disrespect the uniform that so many are eternally sleeping in Response by 1SG Rob Smith made Apr 14 at 2018 4:04 PM 2018-04-14T16:04:41-04:00 2018-04-14T16:04:41-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 3544145 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you still in? If not, and you own the uniform, you can do as you wish. If you are no longer in, you are not subject to any AR regs. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2018 9:20 PM 2018-04-14T21:20:38-04:00 2018-04-14T21:20:38-04:00 SSG Steven Cody 3544735 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have a friend that wears his uniform with a beard when he has to. I myself shave and get a haircut when I wear one. I&#39;ll be doing it again when my wife and I get married in The Catholic Church (we&#39;re civilly married but church only recognizes the sacramental marriage) and when our son is baptized. One thing I do when I wear my uniform though is I don&#39;t wear leader tabs or crests on my shoulder boards, I&#39;m not in a unit. If you decide to wear a beard then shape and clean it up. Don&#39;t look like a bum or a mountain man that put on a uniform. Response by SSG Steven Cody made Apr 15 at 2018 5:55 AM 2018-04-15T05:55:46-04:00 2018-04-15T05:55:46-04:00 1SG Stephen Davis 3544824 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a high school teacher, I am invited each year to our JROTC Formal. I wear my blues and go shaven and with a regulatory haircut or wear a tux with my medals in the miniature form. Response by 1SG Stephen Davis made Apr 15 at 2018 7:25 AM 2018-04-15T07:25:02-04:00 2018-04-15T07:25:02-04:00 SFC Jim Hannigan 3545273 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you’re retired and wear the uniform PROPERLY , I see no problem having a trimmed beard . I do not have a beard but have some retired SF friends that have worn one , with a RETIRED pin . Response by SFC Jim Hannigan made Apr 15 at 2018 10:34 AM 2018-04-15T10:34:48-04:00 2018-04-15T10:34:48-04:00 TSgt Private RallyPoint Member 3545440 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What does your heart tell you to do? Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 11:48 AM 2018-04-15T11:48:52-04:00 2018-04-15T11:48:52-04:00 PFC Louis Varcadaipane 3546077 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Long story short is that UCMJ and codes don’t apply to you anymore so it really is up to how you want to be seen....any person can wear anything military as long as they are not “gaining” from it such as discounts Response by PFC Louis Varcadaipane made Apr 15 at 2018 4:06 PM 2018-04-15T16:06:50-04:00 2018-04-15T16:06:50-04:00 SFC Preston Sr 3546316 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I as a U S Army retiree, fully agree with the sentiments that have been expressed. If you had pride in your service, you should still have that pride. If you want to wear the uniform, meet the established standards. <br />Not only am I a retiree, but I wore the uniform 21 additional years as a JROTC INSTRUCTOR. Retired from that in 2011. I like my mustache longer than regulations, and I wear hair under my bottom lip. But every time I go to a military function, I like to wear the uniform. So, I cut my hair, trim my mustache, and shave. That happens at least annually. But sometimes more often. Why? Pride in the uniform. Not to brag, but I have enough suits (and I have my own Tuxedo), to change every day for a month or more. But my dress blues are my best clothes. Response by SFC Preston Sr made Apr 15 at 2018 5:57 PM 2018-04-15T17:57:35-04:00 2018-04-15T17:57:35-04:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 3546341 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The answer is no per AR 670-1 (without some pre-authorized exception to policy). However, its non-enforceable because Army Regulations (and the UCMJ) no longer apply to you. So if you did it, you may get some funny looks or remarks from Service members, but you wouldn&#39;t be breaking any laws/regulations that could create any real legal issues for yourself. An example of this are the countless vets you see at parades, VFWs, American Legions, etc., who often wear all or part of their old service uniforms, but may not conform to current grooming standards. Of course, most of these guys are much older WWII, Korea, and Vietnam vets who no one would dare to question.<br /><br />Bottom line: If I were you and wanted to wear my service uniform when I got out for an event, I would simply conform to the regulation even though you would not get into any *official* trouble for it. Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 6:10 PM 2018-04-15T18:10:10-04:00 2018-04-15T18:10:10-04:00 Maj Shawn Cape 3546473 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If in a service uniform you must conform to current regulations regarding haircuts and facial hair. <br />As far as wearing medals and badges, they should be miniatures and not full sized. Response by Maj Shawn Cape made Apr 15 at 2018 7:13 PM 2018-04-15T19:13:18-04:00 2018-04-15T19:13:18-04:00 Sgt Charles Johnson 3547587 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can always grow the beard back. Response by Sgt Charles Johnson made Apr 16 at 2018 7:14 AM 2018-04-16T07:14:22-04:00 2018-04-16T07:14:22-04:00 SSG Joshua Holloway 3547774 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well if you had a no shave profile...(joke) If you wear the uniform you should conform to the 670-1. We know what right looks like. I just don&#39;t wear mine because I don&#39;t want to shave my beard. Response by SSG Joshua Holloway made Apr 16 at 2018 8:54 AM 2018-04-16T08:54:33-04:00 2018-04-16T08:54:33-04:00 SFC Samuel Campos 3548401 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave your beard, it will grow back. You weren’t authorized to have it before, not authorized still. Wear your uniform with pride. <br />SFC Campos(RET) Response by SFC Samuel Campos made Apr 16 at 2018 12:25 PM 2018-04-16T12:25:44-04:00 2018-04-16T12:25:44-04:00 SPC Randy Arris Sr. 3549360 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Interesting... Response by SPC Randy Arris Sr. made Apr 16 at 2018 6:16 PM 2018-04-16T18:16:34-04:00 2018-04-16T18:16:34-04:00 SSG Arthur Gonzales 3549388 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have wore my uniform with and without a beard and no questions asked. Response by SSG Arthur Gonzales made Apr 16 at 2018 6:28 PM 2018-04-16T18:28:04-04:00 2018-04-16T18:28:04-04:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 3549498 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>LOL if you’re out you can wear your uniform how you please to! You earned the right to wear your uniform how you see fit the rules and regulations under the UCMJ no longer apply! Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2018 7:11 PM 2018-04-16T19:11:10-04:00 2018-04-16T19:11:10-04:00 SSG Alan Milledge 3550022 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My opinion, shave the beard as mentioned earlier. It will grow back. Response by SSG Alan Milledge made Apr 16 at 2018 10:53 PM 2018-04-16T22:53:31-04:00 2018-04-16T22:53:31-04:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 3550282 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shaving profile? Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 1:27 AM 2018-04-17T01:27:39-04:00 2018-04-17T01:27:39-04:00 SPC Matt Phillips 3551529 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What are they gonna do give you a article 15? Response by SPC Matt Phillips made Apr 17 at 2018 11:39 AM 2018-04-17T11:39:07-04:00 2018-04-17T11:39:07-04:00 PO3 Thomas Prentice 3552653 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Many years ago i was asked to wear my uniform to a veterans day event. Never bothered to look up regs.just cut my hair and shaved. Just felt if i was gonna wear it again, wear it right. <br /> UT3. USN Response by PO3 Thomas Prentice made Apr 17 at 2018 5:00 PM 2018-04-17T17:00:38-04:00 2018-04-17T17:00:38-04:00 David Pitt 3552730 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe once you are out of the military you no longer bound by ar670-1, no mater what is says about veterans wearing military attire it has no power in civilian life. you have no fear of an article 15 or punishment from your chain of comand. you and your constitutional rights have been reestablished and no longer bound by military rules. that being said I went to the va in Reno Nevada and there was a male vet in there wearing a plaid skirt, BDU Top, with red beret, and a shit load of ribbons, with rank &quot;SFC&#39; if I recal correct, anyways you know what nobody said shit to him, you know why because. he earned the right to wear what ever the hell he wanted, were ever they hell he wanted to. you know what else he had he had a &quot;beard&quot;! as far as being respectful see stated above its your choice to dress the way you see fit the days of being told what to do where to be and what to say is over, you are bound by your own choices not the choices of others. you are your own master. I say keep your beard, you are no longer a drone. you are who you are. not who you were, just take your dd form 214 and your VA card with you because there are a lot of butt hurt liberals former solders from the Clinton administration and a lot of former officers that like to call out vets show them your 214 and va card and tell them to keep walking Response by David Pitt made Apr 17 at 2018 5:21 PM 2018-04-17T17:21:36-04:00 2018-04-17T17:21:36-04:00 CPL Landon Steele 3553299 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No! That guy is a no go. Shoot him! Response by CPL Landon Steele made Apr 17 at 2018 9:06 PM 2018-04-17T21:06:38-04:00 2018-04-17T21:06:38-04:00 SgtMaj Private RallyPoint Member 3553421 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave your damn mug. If you gotta ask, don’t do it. Response by SgtMaj Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 9:39 PM 2018-04-17T21:39:41-04:00 2018-04-17T21:39:41-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 3553669 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I do not see a problem with having facial hair and wear the uniform that you spent your life in it’s yours and you are out of the military Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 11:39 PM 2018-04-17T23:39:55-04:00 2018-04-17T23:39:55-04:00 SFC Glenn Kozak 3553684 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave! It’ll grow back. Response by SFC Glenn Kozak made Apr 17 at 2018 11:50 PM 2018-04-17T23:50:52-04:00 2018-04-17T23:50:52-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 3555643 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My beard IS my uniform. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 1:26 PM 2018-04-18T13:26:28-04:00 2018-04-18T13:26:28-04:00 PO3 David Camp 3556339 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Had a beard when I was active duty it was on my ID card.USN Submarine Service Response by PO3 David Camp made Apr 18 at 2018 5:36 PM 2018-04-18T17:36:55-04:00 2018-04-18T17:36:55-04:00 CPO Private RallyPoint Member 3556401 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Brother wear the uniform the way it suppose to be worn If you don&#39;t want no shave then wear a suit and add a lapel pin with your service and awards.! Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 5:53 PM 2018-04-18T17:53:20-04:00 2018-04-18T17:53:20-04:00 SPC Jason Hamilton 3556846 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Short answer no. Longer answer, I served my time, I am no longer subject to military discipline or regs, so bugger off Response by SPC Jason Hamilton made Apr 18 at 2018 9:29 PM 2018-04-18T21:29:26-04:00 2018-04-18T21:29:26-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 3557619 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here is a link you can check out regarding military uniforms and veterans. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978">https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/283/276/qrc/Veterans_Day_Parade_DVIDS1133406-5a592079845b340037037f8f.jpg?1524134992"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978">Military Uniform Rules For Retirees And Veterans</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Retired military members and certain honorably discharged veterans may wear the US Military uniform on certain occasions.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2018 6:49 AM 2018-04-19T06:49:52-04:00 2018-04-19T06:49:52-04:00 LTC Joseph Bost 3557645 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s not about you, or your personal preferences or desires, it’s about the Army uniform and honoring the uniform and what it represents. Whenever I wear the uniform as a retiree, I honor it and those that have gone before me and those currently serving. Do the right thing if you wear the uniform, otherwise wear a suit or sport coat. Response by LTC Joseph Bost made Apr 19 at 2018 6:58 AM 2018-04-19T06:58:28-04:00 2018-04-19T06:58:28-04:00 MSgt Dollar Bill Rutledge 3558073 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can no longer fit into my uniform. Response by MSgt Dollar Bill Rutledge made Apr 19 at 2018 9:47 AM 2018-04-19T09:47:22-04:00 2018-04-19T09:47:22-04:00 SrA Timothy Morris 3558098 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Regs are regs. Some of the crap with gender blows my mind. Bring back don’t ask don’t tell Response by SrA Timothy Morris made Apr 19 at 2018 9:57 AM 2018-04-19T09:57:45-04:00 2018-04-19T09:57:45-04:00 SSG (ret) William Martin 3558120 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Question, are you subject to UCMJ? If not, go right ahead but if you are subject to UCMJ just make it simple and follow AR 670-1. Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 19 at 2018 10:02 AM 2018-04-19T10:02:59-04:00 2018-04-19T10:02:59-04:00 TSgt Private RallyPoint Member 3559136 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Who’s going to give you paperwork Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2018 4:21 PM 2018-04-19T16:21:00-04:00 2018-04-19T16:21:00-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 3559287 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I volunteer with a jrotc leadership every year and I’ve been out since 2014. I play the game, wear my old uniform and hold myself to the standard we hold the cadets to. So once a year shave my beard off. Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2018 5:14 PM 2018-04-19T17:14:09-04:00 2018-04-19T17:14:09-04:00 SPC Charles Batchelor 3559999 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You may wear either thr current Class A uniform ir the ine you served in but must meat grooming standards oer regulstions. Response by SPC Charles Batchelor made Apr 19 at 2018 11:36 PM 2018-04-19T23:36:52-04:00 2018-04-19T23:36:52-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 3560379 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just get a no shaving profile, then shave your head bald. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2018 5:48 AM 2018-04-20T05:48:22-04:00 2018-04-20T05:48:22-04:00 Sgt John Garrett 3560969 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have requested that I be buried in my uniform when I die. I have a beard now. I have asked my family to insure that my hair is cut to regulation and I am clean shaven when the time comes. How would it look for one of the Marine guards in heaven notnwearing his uniform properly? Response by Sgt John Garrett made Apr 20 at 2018 9:30 AM 2018-04-20T09:30:27-04:00 2018-04-20T09:30:27-04:00 TSgt Private RallyPoint Member 3561042 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When you are an off duty civilian, the uniform regulations do not apply to you, same with the UCMJ. Wear your uniform however you wish. US Code Title 10 allows for you to wear your uniform as a veteran at your own discretion. Obviously respect the uniform. The commanding officer of SEAL Team 6 usually briefed POTUS in full dress uniform with a beard while on active duty. The only law that applies to civilians is impersonation of an officer or wearing awards that were not actually earned. If you held that rank and you earned those awards, there is no one who can legally prevent you from exercising your right to wear the uniform as you wish. Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2018 10:05 AM 2018-04-20T10:05:06-04:00 2018-04-20T10:05:06-04:00 SFC Erik Husbands 3561166 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are retired, AR-670-1 no longer applies to you. Response by SFC Erik Husbands made Apr 20 at 2018 10:56 AM 2018-04-20T10:56:15-04:00 2018-04-20T10:56:15-04:00 SFC Jim Ruether 3561215 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No Beard but can have a regulation mustache although you look like a Hitler wannabe with that lip hair. Your choice or keep the beard and wear civvies Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Apr 20 at 2018 11:10 AM 2018-04-20T11:10:16-04:00 2018-04-20T11:10:16-04:00 Cpl Merrell Michael 3561282 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You should probably shave. Response by Cpl Merrell Michael made Apr 20 at 2018 11:28 AM 2018-04-20T11:28:15-04:00 2018-04-20T11:28:15-04:00 SGT Clarence Driver 3561989 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Beards are to be wore if you have / had a profile while in service.<br />Most will say if you never had one while in uniform you shouldn’t wear one in uniform.<br />But any retired Vet will tell you, your face is not the same as it was when your where in probably. So if shaving is a issue, it’s up to you.<br />Worst that can happen is a “ On the spot Correction suggestion “, but your no longer in service. <br />I wore a beard for 15 years in the army, if I was at a event today after retirement and someone question me about me wearing my beard do you think He believe me anyway after I told him.<br />More then likely not, cause only a few soldiers had them and many wished they could of. So he probably still have something to say that wouldn’t matter a damn bit to me because God and I know the true, and he was just out of line for approaching me in the first place with something so trivial.<br />If your no longer in service look your best in uniform. Response by SGT Clarence Driver made Apr 20 at 2018 4:17 PM 2018-04-20T16:17:51-04:00 2018-04-20T16:17:51-04:00 SGT Clarence Driver 3562077 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a old vet, wear your uniform now out of service your still just as noticeable as you were in service and you should look your best and behavior manners should apply also.<br />Your beard, you should consider the fact of did you or did you not at anytime have a shaving profile. If not, be aware your not subject to any Regs, but you could still be on the spot corrected for what it be worth. (Zero)<br />I wore a beard for 15 years, still get asked why you wearing a beard in uniform. Very few believe me when I say I always had a beard while I was in the military. I kept one of my profiles, had Staples shrink and lamented it for me wallet size, Just so I can make people who ask me look stupid. ( I’m just that kinda guy)<br />But truly, what can be said that’s going to matter. Anyone ask you bout your beard,<br />“ Just state your no longer in the military and your Not required to show a shaving profile. Unless you can show me different”. Response by SGT Clarence Driver made Apr 20 at 2018 4:57 PM 2018-04-20T16:57:00-04:00 2018-04-20T16:57:00-04:00 LCDR Gary Buda 3563611 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For quite a time a beard was allowed in the navy for active duty personnel. Although that has been changed a long time ago. I have worn my uniform to certain functions with my goatee. I still wear it with pride. Response by LCDR Gary Buda made Apr 21 at 2018 8:37 AM 2018-04-21T08:37:05-04:00 2018-04-21T08:37:05-04:00 SP5 Vic Dellucci 3564634 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I will not shave or cut my hair. As such I do not wear uniform Response by SP5 Vic Dellucci made Apr 21 at 2018 3:41 PM 2018-04-21T15:41:14-04:00 2018-04-21T15:41:14-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 3565337 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I sbaved just habit after retiring if i wear the uniform Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2018 9:09 PM 2018-04-21T21:09:29-04:00 2018-04-21T21:09:29-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 3565527 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>no wear it with pride Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2018 10:26 PM 2018-04-21T22:26:17-04:00 2018-04-21T22:26:17-04:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 3565540 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you retired? If so you can wear a uniform if you have a beard and be ok. Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2018 10:31 PM 2018-04-21T22:31:24-04:00 2018-04-21T22:31:24-04:00 PFC Dean Smith 3565603 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave and haircut are in order if you are going to wear the uniform. Response by PFC Dean Smith made Apr 21 at 2018 11:18 PM 2018-04-21T23:18:25-04:00 2018-04-21T23:18:25-04:00 SPC Daniel Rankin 3565856 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>i was wondering, because I have facial scars from the war that my beard hides. it was one of the side effects of the nerve gas and operations that later followed. Response by SPC Daniel Rankin made Apr 22 at 2018 4:41 AM 2018-04-22T04:41:43-04:00 2018-04-22T04:41:43-04:00 SGT Paul Titley 3565927 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m almost positive it&#39;s covered in 670-1. I guess my first question is which uniform? Are we talking Class A&#39;s or cammies? Me personally I have only wore my Class A&#39;s once since getting out and I grumbled but I got myself back in regs because it was for my daughter. Response by SGT Paul Titley made Apr 22 at 2018 6:03 AM 2018-04-22T06:03:50-04:00 2018-04-22T06:03:50-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 3566911 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you’re not in the service anymore you are not held to the regs. You earned your uniform wear it with pride. If you don’t want to shave, that’s your right. But knowing the regs and that everyone is out to get people on stolen valor be prepared to become famous. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2018 1:16 PM 2018-04-22T13:16:32-04:00 2018-04-22T13:16:32-04:00 CPL John Ray 3568097 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>DD-214.... do what you want to proud warrior! Response by CPL John Ray made Apr 22 at 2018 8:51 PM 2018-04-22T20:51:30-04:00 2018-04-22T20:51:30-04:00 SFC William Phillips 3568306 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wore my uniform for 35 plus years with pride. After I retired I have not put it back on . When i retired my uniform retired with me with Pride. Response by SFC William Phillips made Apr 22 at 2018 10:26 PM 2018-04-22T22:26:49-04:00 2018-04-22T22:26:49-04:00 PO2 Nasser Montes 3568426 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Those are great answers above. I haven’t wore a beard, moustache or any facial hair after I got married. Neatly 4 years after I got out. Just after my EAOS, I let it all hangout to try to be a rockstar, but eventually went back to school and became respectable. High and tights were easier to maintain and shaving just gave better complexion. It’s been over 20 years now, so if I could still fit in my uniform that would be a miracle. Response by PO2 Nasser Montes made Apr 22 at 2018 11:27 PM 2018-04-22T23:27:08-04:00 2018-04-22T23:27:08-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 3568789 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Of course you can wear a beard in uniform when you are a veteran. Is his old 1SG going to counsel him or recommend an Article 15? BTW, AR 670-1 needs to change to permit beards. I’ll work on that soon. Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2018 6:06 AM 2018-04-23T06:06:18-04:00 2018-04-23T06:06:18-04:00 Cpl Lloyd Martin 3569020 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No Response by Cpl Lloyd Martin made Apr 23 at 2018 7:36 AM 2018-04-23T07:36:35-04:00 2018-04-23T07:36:35-04:00 SSG James Schmerber 3569699 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To honor and show pride wear the uniform as you wore it in the military if you are wearing the acu it would be ok to have a beard if you and the people going to be there were or are SF if it’s the dress uniform shave even SF will shave when wearing dress Response by SSG James Schmerber made Apr 23 at 2018 11:52 AM 2018-04-23T11:52:23-04:00 2018-04-23T11:52:23-04:00 SSG Lee Kujawa 3570164 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, absolutely. Response by SSG Lee Kujawa made Apr 23 at 2018 2:36 PM 2018-04-23T14:36:52-04:00 2018-04-23T14:36:52-04:00 LT Terry Lober 3584825 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The USN says &quot;no&quot;. My daughter joined the Army. She was picked to carry the guidon for her Company at the graduation ceremony from Boot Camp, Ft Jackson. It had been years since I took off my navy dress blues but I wanted to wear my uniform to her graduation. I wrote to the Dept of the Navy and asked if it were permissible for me to wear my uniform to the ceremony. I was told in no uncertain terms &quot;NO&quot;! They said only active serving members of the Armed Forces may wear the uniform. No exceptions. <br />So I never got the chance to return my daughter&#39;s first salute. <br />That hurt. Back then I could actually fit into my old uniform and kept a military haircut etc. because I always had my entire life. I did not challenge the response because, well, 3rd generation officer and all that. If that was the law, or is now, it should not be. I EARNED that uniform. Response by LT Terry Lober made Apr 28 at 2018 5:19 PM 2018-04-28T17:19:58-04:00 2018-04-28T17:19:58-04:00 SGT Roger Bunton 3601589 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I truly believe that when you put on your dress uniform you should look military.....combat uniforms are a different matter.... Response by SGT Roger Bunton made May 5 at 2018 2:07 AM 2018-05-05T02:07:29-04:00 2018-05-05T02:07:29-04:00 SSG Robert Perrotto 3609816 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great question - and I appreciate the answers in this thread - I too, have grown a beard since retirement (still going through the &quot;I don&#39;t have to freaking shave anymore&quot; phase) and was wondering about that as well - great to know that I must shave if wearing the uniform to formal occasions. Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made May 8 at 2018 9:46 AM 2018-05-08T09:46:37-04:00 2018-05-08T09:46:37-04:00 CW3 Kevin Storm 3610138 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My landlord is 94 years old, he was a navigator on B-24&#39;s. I have been asked by his wife, when the times comes would I speak at his funeral about his military career. To me this is a very humbling honor to speak of someone who got the Air medal for leading the bomb group that hammer on the Nazi&#39;s on Christmas Day 1944, During the Battle of the Bulge. I will not hesitate to pull out my razor and remove my facial hair, so I can don my Blues for one of the members of the Greatest Generation. So that is my 2 cents. Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 8 at 2018 11:54 AM 2018-05-08T11:54:25-04:00 2018-05-08T11:54:25-04:00 PO1 John Edwards 3615751 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>USN from 1970 to 1978 had a beard also a no shave chit Response by PO1 John Edwards made May 10 at 2018 11:07 AM 2018-05-10T11:07:24-04:00 2018-05-10T11:07:24-04:00 PO1 Richard Nyberg 3616173 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the uniform still fits, I put on a few ponds since I retired Response by PO1 Richard Nyberg made May 10 at 2018 1:50 PM 2018-05-10T13:50:53-04:00 2018-05-10T13:50:53-04:00 SGT Don Schaffer 3619564 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The American Legion does a very good job at keeping abreast of these things, so I defer to them. But last regulations I&#39;ve read say... a vey may wear the uniform that was current during his termination from service. It should be warn as the uniform would have been worn while he/she served. It in no way states that a vet needs to conform to the AR600-1 Or other uniform code as far as personal grooming. <br />It becomes easier on the eyes as the military changes uniform and you join the ranks of those who have gone before more clearly(distinguishing between remembrance and impersonation)<br />You may wear your uniform in whole or in part (ACU top only i.e.) but complete uniform is preferred. <br />You are probably not old enough to remember our WWI vets in full uniform at parades, but I do. It is a treat for all to see a vet in their uniform (especially retired uniform). Thanks for having the pride to wear yours ... and be proud of your beard as well. Response by SGT Don Schaffer made May 11 at 2018 2:43 PM 2018-05-11T14:43:00-04:00 2018-05-11T14:43:00-04:00 CWO3 Bill Carter 3619806 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Excellent example, Chief Keck! Response by CWO3 Bill Carter made May 11 at 2018 4:02 PM 2018-05-11T16:02:43-04:00 2018-05-11T16:02:43-04:00 CPL Luke Saunders 3642969 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You&#39;re not gonna find a reg that covers this because there are no regs governing civilians. The only thing that dictates facial hair &amp; uniforms is Common Sense and Good Taste ( CR 1-18). Response by CPL Luke Saunders made May 19 at 2018 5:15 PM 2018-05-19T17:15:08-04:00 2018-05-19T17:15:08-04:00 MSG Greg Kelly 3643081 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The uniform is to be worn according to regulation period. I have seen vets wear the uniform and they looked like shit bags. I asked them about it and was told they are retired they don&#39;t have to conform. I informed them they do and if for no other reason they should not disrespect the uniform and look like a shit bag. But some people are just dumb as rocks and should be sent to underwater BB stacking school. Response by MSG Greg Kelly made May 19 at 2018 6:17 PM 2018-05-19T18:17:33-04:00 2018-05-19T18:17:33-04:00 SSgt Max Gonzales 3647906 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m not a lawyer,but so many service members today have facial hair and you don&#39;t hear anything negative. Response by SSgt Max Gonzales made May 21 at 2018 11:39 AM 2018-05-21T11:39:38-04:00 2018-05-21T11:39:38-04:00 PO3 William Ainsworth 3659693 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SHAVE! Response by PO3 William Ainsworth made May 25 at 2018 9:46 AM 2018-05-25T09:46:23-04:00 2018-05-25T09:46:23-04:00 LCpl Michael Cappello 3660409 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I am no longer conversant with the current regs as applied to retired or inactive personnel, I will have to answer in what I believe to be true Marine Corps fashion. Were you allowed to wear a facial hair when you were in service? Many sailors (E-4 and above) were allowed beards while I was in the Corps. We, of course&lt; had much to say about this. Something to do with orifices with hair around them, as I recall. That having been said, it is my belief that NO uniform should be worn with any facial hair (other than the regulation mustache), unless you are active duty spec-ops. Response by LCpl Michael Cappello made May 25 at 2018 2:26 PM 2018-05-25T14:26:00-04:00 2018-05-25T14:26:00-04:00 SPC Jesse Peeples 3660443 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We all match or we don&#39;t match will the rest of the battalion be aloud to dress with a bread? Response by SPC Jesse Peeples made May 25 at 2018 2:41 PM 2018-05-25T14:41:53-04:00 2018-05-25T14:41:53-04:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 3662929 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Rules and Regulations rule our military life, the way of life WE CHOSE. Therefore, I wont feel any hesitation if when I retire, I want to wear my uniform and have to shave and get an appropriate haircut. Remember, when you HONOR someone, YOU GO ALL THE WAY.... ARMY STRONG. Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2018 3:41 PM 2018-05-26T15:41:22-04:00 2018-05-26T15:41:22-04:00 Cpl Mark Lee 3672390 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you wear in public, follow the regs. Shave it. Response by Cpl Mark Lee made May 30 at 2018 7:23 PM 2018-05-30T19:23:50-04:00 2018-05-30T19:23:50-04:00 SGT Rhonda Wright 3676044 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just weighing in facial hair could be worn if you have a shaving profile but at that I believe you couldn&#39;t have it razor shape lineup on it because of the issues with your face and razor.... Response by SGT Rhonda Wright made Jun 1 at 2018 9:39 AM 2018-06-01T09:39:46-04:00 2018-06-01T09:39:46-04:00 MSG Dan Castaneda 3676119 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most importantly, make sure you meet AR 600-9 standards. Do not wear the uniform if your fat. Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Jun 1 at 2018 9:58 AM 2018-06-01T09:58:07-04:00 2018-06-01T09:58:07-04:00 Sgt Greg Puckett 3685370 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only exception i know of is for Sikhs Response by Sgt Greg Puckett made Jun 4 at 2018 10:29 PM 2018-06-04T22:29:35-04:00 2018-06-04T22:29:35-04:00 PFC Gary Dulany 3695523 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wish I could still get into my uniform. Response by PFC Gary Dulany made Jun 8 at 2018 5:33 PM 2018-06-08T17:33:47-04:00 2018-06-08T17:33:47-04:00 CDR Bob Lange 3699728 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When stationed in the Pentagon in the 1990s, many retired Navy who worked in the building wore their uniforms with beards to events such as the Navy birthday ball, with SECNAV attending. We served in the Zumwalt era, when beards were authorized in uniform. Response by CDR Bob Lange made Jun 10 at 2018 10:49 AM 2018-06-10T10:49:59-04:00 2018-06-10T10:49:59-04:00 CAPT Patrick Mulcahy 3704259 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Navy says (in part) that you must adhere to existing grooming standards if a veteran or retiree wears their uniform - but they don&#39;t say how they would enforce that. My guess is that unless wearing the uniform is used for illegal purposes, they can&#39;t enforce that rule. Response by CAPT Patrick Mulcahy made Jun 12 at 2018 12:37 AM 2018-06-12T00:37:04-04:00 2018-06-12T00:37:04-04:00 PO2 Richard Blakey 3734891 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>navy did 1984 Response by PO2 Richard Blakey made Jun 22 at 2018 11:51 PM 2018-06-22T23:51:58-04:00 2018-06-22T23:51:58-04:00 SCPO Don Baker 3735324 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe you made the right call by shaving. If you&#39;re going to wear the uniform, wear it proudly (I&#39;m sure you did) and correctly. The beard does grown back. Response by SCPO Don Baker made Jun 23 at 2018 8:31 AM 2018-06-23T08:31:12-04:00 2018-06-23T08:31:12-04:00 MSG Christopher DuBois 3787137 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just to throw gas on the fire. If I were to wear my uniform with my beard, what could be done about it? See, the way my DD 2-14 is set up... ;) Response by MSG Christopher DuBois made Jul 12 at 2018 11:14 AM 2018-07-12T11:14:57-04:00 2018-07-12T11:14:57-04:00 SPC Brian Stephens 3787894 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can&#39;t. I was 118 when I left the service and I am over 180 now. Beard or no beard, there is no way those uniforms are going to fit since I have filled out about 27 years since. Black suit, dark tie is the way to go. The only piece of the uniform I continue to wear today are the shoes. Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Jul 12 at 2018 4:22 PM 2018-07-12T16:22:56-04:00 2018-07-12T16:22:56-04:00 SSG Timothy Viccari 3800399 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>More to the point - just don’t look like a S-bag. I think if you have a well groomed beard you look more professional then many of the paunchy ex-military types still trying to be tacti-cool. I’d rather see a fella with some handsome face Kevlar then someone clean shaven but wearing an ill fitting uniform and/or out of shape. Also you’re a civilian. You can do whatever the hell you want. Response by SSG Timothy Viccari made Jul 17 at 2018 10:53 AM 2018-07-17T10:53:58-04:00 2018-07-17T10:53:58-04:00 TSgt David Holman 3882306 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Retirees/Veterans who wish to wear the service uniform must meet all of the dress and appearance standards for there service (i.e. AFI 36-2903 AR670-1) to include facial hair and fitness standards. Response by TSgt David Holman made Aug 15 at 2018 12:59 PM 2018-08-15T12:59:33-04:00 2018-08-15T12:59:33-04:00 CMSgt Tanya Guinn Fischer 3899017 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have another question that’s along the same lines. Can a deceased retired Army veteran have facial hair while being buried in his uniform ? Response by CMSgt Tanya Guinn Fischer made Aug 21 at 2018 4:39 PM 2018-08-21T16:39:16-04:00 2018-08-21T16:39:16-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 4113512 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-281002"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Can+a+veteran+wear+their+service+uniform+with+facial+hair%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ACan a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="4e79623b7283c63b981aad13bd563316" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/281/002/for_gallery_v2/791c0c91.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/281/002/large_v3/791c0c91.JPG" alt="791c0c91" /></a></div></div>I think I would have to smoke myself if I tried to wear my old dress uniform with my beard. I attend a lot of military functions since retiring and just wear a tux. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 3:05 PM 2018-11-09T15:05:28-05:00 2018-11-09T15:05:28-05:00 LTC James McElreath 4113936 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Spc Tate<br />You would not be wrong to make the necessary changes that could prevent some shameless soldier from trying to embarrass you. By following the regulation as you know it to be you will never be wrong. Response by LTC James McElreath made Nov 9 at 2018 6:06 PM 2018-11-09T18:06:40-05:00 2018-11-09T18:06:40-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 4186053 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see everyone&#39;s comments saying no, but... what if you personally were allowed to have a full beard when you were in the service??? Not saying I was, just a question. Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 12:46 AM 2018-12-06T00:46:02-05:00 2018-12-06T00:46:02-05:00 SSG George Holtje 4446710 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I went to a Veterans Day event. I wore my blues with a shave and a haircut. That’s just me. I let my hair and beard go but if it’s some kind of Vet event, I go full tilt. Response by SSG George Holtje made Mar 13 at 2019 8:54 PM 2019-03-13T20:54:24-04:00 2019-03-13T20:54:24-04:00 CAPT Patrick Mulcahy 4654332 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have a question - if you are out of the service, how can regulations apply to you? I believe that as a civilian, they are unenforceable Response by CAPT Patrick Mulcahy made May 20 at 2019 11:17 PM 2019-05-20T23:17:14-04:00 2019-05-20T23:17:14-04:00 TSgt Phil Textor 4677161 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Military regulations do not apply to civilians, which a retiree is. The only question is if the retiree wants to honor the uniform and the service by adhearing to the standards. Response by TSgt Phil Textor made May 29 at 2019 1:09 AM 2019-05-29T01:09:16-04:00 2019-05-29T01:09:16-04:00 CSM Tony Blair 4677164 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While on deployment facial hair was over looked to a degree, but once we returned back home, it’s back to rules and regulations.<br />As a retired or honorable discharge veteran, you are allowed to were the uniform, but again it’s back to rules and regulations.<br />Shaving profile rules apply if you wear facial hair.<br />Just my take. Response by CSM Tony Blair made May 29 at 2019 1:11 AM 2019-05-29T01:11:14-04:00 2019-05-29T01:11:14-04:00 LTC Paul Labrador 5460308 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Kinda late, but the answer is found in AR 670-1 para 30-4. Short answer, if you wear the uniform, you must adhere to grooming standards . Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jan 19 at 2020 6:14 PM 2020-01-19T18:14:31-05:00 2020-01-19T18:14:31-05:00 SSG Jimmy Cernich 5682631 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not appropriate.Military Moto should be instilled in your heart when putting on the uniform for active retired or veteran.Its called SSS. Response by SSG Jimmy Cernich made Mar 20 at 2020 6:03 PM 2020-03-20T18:03:08-04:00 2020-03-20T18:03:08-04:00 1SG Charles Hunter 5714998 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only reference I found was AR 670-1, para 3-16b (refers to beards as a religious accommodation). Apparently, the requirement for veterans and retirees to adhere to active duty grooming standards has been removed. Response by 1SG Charles Hunter made Mar 29 at 2020 10:31 AM 2020-03-29T10:31:27-04:00 2020-03-29T10:31:27-04:00 LTC Jason Bartlett 5816472 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-451398"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Can+a+veteran+wear+their+service+uniform+with+facial+hair%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fcan-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ACan a veteran wear their service uniform with facial hair?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/can-a-veteran-wear-their-service-uniform-with-facial-hair" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="0f653ab717e0bf693770788b557ad332" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/451/398/for_gallery_v2/6eb30df.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/451/398/large_v3/6eb30df.jpeg" alt="6eb30df" /></a></div></div>Just put this right here. Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Apr 25 at 2020 7:04 PM 2020-04-25T19:04:26-04:00 2020-04-25T19:04:26-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6014821 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You have done your research in whether or not you can wear your uniform while you have a beard. Your gut is saying that you cannot, but you cannot find anything saying you can....go with your gut. <br /><br />AR 670-1 sets the standards for wearing the uniform.<br /><br />Will you be arrested for wearing the uniform with a beard...no.<br />Would you you be approached, questioned, and/or harrassed by other currently serving persons and/or veterans....you bet, it&#39;s a free country.<br />Up to you how you want others to see you in uniform. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2020 8:48 AM 2020-06-17T08:48:15-04:00 2020-06-17T08:48:15-04:00 SSG Jimmy Cernich 6055575 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In combat special forces do.combat uniform Response by SSG Jimmy Cernich made Jun 29 at 2020 10:59 PM 2020-06-29T22:59:52-04:00 2020-06-29T22:59:52-04:00 Lt Col George Roll 6114931 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Legally No to wear your service uniform you must adhear to the service e grooming standards.<br />An Army veterin was awarded the MOH by the President of the US at the White House. He had grown a beard and did wear his service Dress and the well trimmed beard. No one said anything at the time. Response by Lt Col George Roll made Jul 18 at 2020 9:23 PM 2020-07-18T21:23:22-04:00 2020-07-18T21:23:22-04:00 SSG Walter Corretjer 6577027 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, you can&#39;t wear a military uniform with a bear.AR 670-1 Response by SSG Walter Corretjer made Dec 13 at 2020 3:04 PM 2020-12-13T15:04:05-05:00 2020-12-13T15:04:05-05:00 SSG Greg Miech 6614873 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Shave it if you are active duty. Once had a guy always wearing a small beard with his uniform and trying to give the idea impression he was Special Forces. You might be giving that impression as well. Response by SSG Greg Miech made Dec 28 at 2020 11:25 PM 2020-12-28T23:25:02-05:00 2020-12-28T23:25:02-05:00 SFC Melvin Brandenburg 6711327 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>670-1 says grooming standards should match that of active duty. Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Feb 1 at 2021 12:53 PM 2021-02-01T12:53:26-05:00 2021-02-01T12:53:26-05:00 MAJ Ronnie Reams 6772929 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AFAIK, only troops that wear beards in uniform are SOF, CID/MPI and CIC in covert assignments, shaving profiles and some off beat religions such as ones that wear turbans. Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Feb 24 at 2021 12:32 PM 2021-02-24T12:32:25-05:00 2021-02-24T12:32:25-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 7099271 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can they? Sure. I doubt anyone is going to tackle them to the ground and forcibly shave them. Are they supposed to? No. <br />When you wear the uniform, you&#39;re supposed to wear it in the exact same manner in which you would if you were still in service. That includes grooming standards.<br /> It&#39;s HIGHLY disrespectful to the uniform to see obese, bearded vets running around like they&#39;re at a cosplay convention. But some people, despite their service, just never learned anything about dignity or respect.<br /><br />23–3. Retired personnel <br />a. Personnel who will be advanced to a higher grade upon retirement have the option of wearing the insignia of that grade thereafter. <br />b. Retired personnel on active duty will wear their uniform and insignia in the same manner as prescribed for personnel in the RA of corresponding grade and branch. <br />c. Retired personnel not on active duty may wear either the uniform reflecting their grade and branch on the date of their retirement, or the uniform prescribed for personnel in the RA of corresponding grade and branch, when appropriate, but may not mix the two uniforms. Personnel will wear the grade as shown on the retired grade of rank line on their retirement order. <br />d. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear the Army uniform when they are instructors or responsible for military discipline at an educational institution, unless the educational institution is conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces. <br />e. In addition to the occasions for wear listed above, retired personnel are authorized to wear the uniform only on the following occasions: <br />(1) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony. <br />(2) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any Regular or Reserve U.S. military unit is taking part. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the combat uniform and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn. Wearing the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above, is prohibited. <br />f. Retirees are authorized to wear the physical fitness uniform under the following provisions: <br />(1) With civilian attire off the installation. <br />(2) When wearing the physical fitness uniform as a complete uniform, retirees will— <br />(a) Wear only authorized accessories corresponding to those worn by personnel of the RA. <br />(b) Wear the uniform in accordance with the guidance provided to RA Soldiers (see DA Pam 670–1). g. Retirees are authorized to wear the Retired Service Identification Badge (see DA Pam 670–1). <br />h. Retirees are authorized to wear the Retired SSI (see DA Pam 670–1). 23–4. <br /><br />Former members of the Army <br />a. Unless qualified under another provision of this regulation, or under the provisions of 10 USC 772, former members of the Army may only wear the uniform if they served honorably during a declared or undeclared war, and if their most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions. Personnel who qualify under these conditions will wear the Army uniform in the highest grade they held during such war service, in accordance with 10 USC 772. <br />b. When authorized, the uniform may be worn only for the following ceremonial occasions and when traveling to and from the event and must follow guidance included in paragraph 3–7c. <br />(1) When attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony. <br />(2) When attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any Regular or Reserve U.S. military unit is taking part. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the combat uniform and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn. Wearing the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above, is prohibited. Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jul 10 at 2021 2:13 PM 2021-07-10T14:13:20-04:00 2021-07-10T14:13:20-04:00 TSgt Ray Lewis 7247860 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Seeing as you are a veteran you can wear what you want with a beard. Response by TSgt Ray Lewis made Sep 5 at 2021 11:10 PM 2021-09-05T23:10:45-04:00 2021-09-05T23:10:45-04:00 SGT John Ball 7547154 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t grow beards because I look something like Santa Claus lol! So, it&#39;s a neatly trimmed stache and sideburns for me. Besides, I look good clean shaven anyways. I haven&#39;t worn a uniform since I retired and is a mute point for me. Response by SGT John Ball made Feb 27 at 2022 5:05 PM 2022-02-27T17:05:20-05:00 2022-02-27T17:05:20-05:00 LTC Stephen F. 8192931 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thank for posting the question <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="403397" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/403397-spc-tate-smith">SPC Tate Smith</a> and thanks for mentioning me my friend and brother <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="305380" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/305380-csm-charles-hayden">CSM Charles Hayden</a>.<br />I realize I am responding late. <br />My first thought is that since many service members can wear beards in uniform special operations forces members.<br />Military Retirees are subject to regulation and as such their are specific rights and responsibilities for retirees who wear military uniforms.<br />Military veterans have more leeway in practice as opposed to policy . It is unlikely that a military veteran wearing long hair, a beard, mustache, or dying their hair would be prosecuted; there is a higher chance of prosecution if the military veteran is: <br /> (a) At any meeting or demonstration which is anti-government in nature.<br /> (b) During political activities, private employment or commercial interests, when an inference of official sponsorship for the activity could be drawn.<br /> (C) When appearing in civil or criminal court<br /><br /><br /><br />a. Posted from {[<a target="_blank" href="https://www.liveabout.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978">https://www.liveabout.com/military-uniforms-by-retirees-veterans-3356978</a>}]<br />Military Retiree and Veteran Differences<br />(1) The rules state that retirees can wear their uniforms. To be considered a retired veteran, one must have served 20 years or more. However, there are medically retired service members who were injured in the line of duty who also rate the uniform as a retired military member once a civilian. ​<br />Veterans are members who served but did not accumulate 20 years of service, however, they may also wear the uniform but only in special occasions that are typically centered around military service and family events (military wedding / funeral, etc). <br />(2) Grooming standards are obviously not enforced when a veteran wears any of the uniforms, but it is common courtesy to wear the uniform as if you were still in the military conforming to all the hair, facial hair, finger nail, and other grooming standards of the military branch you represent. All veterans and retired members will conform with the same standards of appearance, military customs, practices, and conduct in uniform prescribed for active-duty. <br />(3) Prohibited Places and Events for Military Uniforms<br />There are some places and events where the uniform is prohibited to be worn by discharged and retired members of the military. These include:<br /> (a) At any meeting or demonstration which is anti-government in nature.<br /> (b) During political activities, private employment or commercial interests, when an inference of official sponsorship for the activity could be drawn.<br /> (C) When appearing in civil or criminal court<br /><br />b. Posted from military.com 2022 article<br />&quot;Meanwhile, the Navy has slightly relaxed its prohibition on beards by allowing them to be worn by retired sailors while in dress uniform, new guidance from that service says.&quot;<br /><br />c. Posted from {[special-ops.org/military-combat-beards-and-rules/]}<br />&quot;However, members of the Special Operations Forces and Special Forces regiments can wear beards if based outside their home camps.&quot;<br /><br />What do you think? FYI <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1252115" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1252115-ssg-mark-lawless">SSG Mark Lawless</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="780368" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/780368-38a-civil-affairs-officer">LTC Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="896898" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/896898-smsgt-lawrence-mccarter">SMSgt Lawrence McCarter</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1654861" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1654861-po3-edward-riddle">PO3 Edward Riddle</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1242735" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1242735-sfc-greg-witte">SFC Greg Witte</a><br /> Response by LTC Stephen F. made Mar 22 at 2023 11:26 PM 2023-03-22T23:26:01-04:00 2023-03-22T23:26:01-04:00 CDR Matthew McLaughlin 8228939 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>By way of an update, as of 27 May 2022, retired Navy members are allowed to wear a beard with the uniform. I looked into this because I&#39;ve been asked to participate in a former CO&#39;s retirement.<br /><br />Navy Uniform Regulations <br />Article 61002. UNIFORMS FOR RETIRED PERSONNEL<br />5. GROOMING STANDARDS. Retired personnel must comply with the grooming standards in these regulations, with the exception of facial hair. Retired personnel are authorized facial hair when wearing Navy uniforms during functions and events. Facial hair must be properly groomed and no longer than 2 inches in length extending from the face outward. Uniforms and equipment may either be those prescribed here or those authorized at the time of their retirement. Response by CDR Matthew McLaughlin made Apr 13 at 2023 5:29 PM 2023-04-13T17:29:49-04:00 2023-04-13T17:29:49-04:00 LTC Martin Metz 8545299 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Currently a beard is NOT authorized. Give it time. Even the Army allowed beards at one time ..... a long time ago. The pendulum always comes back eventually. <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_hair_in_the_military">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_hair_in_the_military</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/837/483/qrc/open-uri20231108-101-yu08p5"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_hair_in_the_military">Facial hair in the military - Wikipedia</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by LTC Martin Metz made Nov 8 at 2023 2:37 PM 2023-11-08T14:37:30-05:00 2023-11-08T14:37:30-05:00 LTC Jason Bullock 8603926 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This fucking thread man! Even grooming standards aren’t about grooming standards. It’s about being able effectively apply camouflage and seal a protective mask. Don’t think any retirees need to meet that standard. Thought at least one person would mention that. Brainwashed much? Response by LTC Jason Bullock made Dec 27 at 2023 4:20 PM 2023-12-27T16:20:19-05:00 2023-12-27T16:20:19-05:00 2017-01-09T21:48:22-05:00