Can Marines wear the Navy rifle and pistol ribbons with the appropriate qual markers instead of the metal qual ribbons?

2015-03-12T14:28:55-04:00

I saw someone in service charlies wearing them but couldn't ask him without putting him on blast.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 2:48 PM

2015-03-12T14:48:21-04:00

That's Navy

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 4:10 PM

2015-03-12T16:10:01-04:00

BUT to answer your question. No, Marines are not allowed to wear qualification ribbons. I don't even think they can if they are former Navy...

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 4:11 PM

2015-03-12T16:11:16-04:00

Probably a corpsman.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 12 at 2015 4:23 PM

2015-03-12T16:23:41-04:00

This is definitely a DevilDoc with prior service... The Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal is obviously a Marine award, so they had to have been a Jarhead to earn it. The Marksmanship ribbons are Navy only, so are the EGA devices so for this rack to be worn and have it be legit, this must be a Prior Marine Devil Doc or RP..

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Mar 12 at 2015 4:23 PM

2015-03-12T16:23:59-04:00

I would think it was a Devil Doc except they have the Marine Security Guard Ribbon and the Marine Good Conduct Medal. That said, the Marine reg states pretty clearly that sister service (even Navy) marksmanship medals/ribbons are not allowed.

https://www.trngcmd.usmc.mil/OCS/caninfo/uniformregs/Shared%20Documents/MCO%20P1020.34G%20W%20CH%201-5.pdf

Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Mar 16 at 2015 1:46 AM

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Please correct me if Im off a bit here....but the 2 metal devices on the middle row....appear to be the Marine EGAs, which I thought were only used by MC-JROTC/ROTC. Marines use either 5 and 1/16 small bronze stars for multiple awards junior to the unit awards, and 3 and 1/16 gold stars for multiple awards senior to the unit awards (or thereabouts) ... I can't speak for the Navy or the Coast Guard but I thought all under Dept-of-Navy were the same in that regard.

Also isnt this blue-white-red-white-blue next to the others on bottom row the USMC Marine Security Guard (ie Embassy Duty) ribbon/medal? Is it possible that a Marine, who was an Embassy Marine, who later went Navy...did all of this before their 6th year and thus did NOT earn the 2nd award for the Good Conduct? Or did a Marine give 4 years, then go Navy and then develop an attitude that the Navy sucked?

All of this put together smells fishy to me. But there is some small chance it all could be accurate...though I'm really still wondering about the Metal EGAs used as devices. I smell some ROTC kid here.

Also, let suppose this is in fact a Marine turned Navy person. Can he no longer wear the MC shooting badges? I would bet the Marine shooting badges and the Navy shooting ribbons are NOT technically "redundant" in terms of what standards are met to achieve them.

Input appreciated.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2015 2:49 PM

2015-03-29T14:49:01-04:00

Dang it! Nothing to add to this post. Good to see the folks on RP know their stuff.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2015 4:27 PM

2015-03-31T16:27:31-04:00

This is a pretty odd question really. The only thing I have to add to that really is while I was in EOD school at Eglin a friend of mine was awarded the Navy Achievement Medal, and to this day wears it on his dress blues.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 4 at 2015 1:08 AM

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Cpl Lorne Houle , I realize I'm about a month late, but I did have a question that should put to rest once and for all if this man was a Marine or Devil Doc.

It has already been stated that Navy personnel permanently assigned to Marine units are authorized to wear MARPAT cammies and the Chucks (as long as they meet USMC grooming and PFT standards). I have also seen Navy personnel wearing Chucks. They had Navy rank in place of Marine rank. I admit it was WEIRD seeing an E-3 Corpsman wearing rank stripes on both sides of his Chuck shirt. I know that's how the Marines do it, but in Navy uniforms (dress and service) we only wear rank on our left sleeve.

Anyhow, that's my question. Do you recall what this man's rank was? In other words, was he wearing Marine or Navy rank stripes? If Navy, he was in the Navy. If Marine, he's a Marine. Sailors will NEVER wear Marine rank (or vice verse) because they are not a Marine plain and simple.

Response by PO3 Scot Fahey made Aug 6 at 2017 5:02 PM

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Navy Corpsman do often earn expert fire arm awards. Navy Corpsman assigned to USMC wear USMC uniforms of the day. 2017 some rules have changed in Navy Uniform Regulations and will soon. Change again no doubt

Response by MSgt John Taylor made Aug 6 at 2017 6:16 PM

2017-08-06T18:16:24-04:00

Prior service navy?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2017 6:28 PM

2017-08-06T18:28:50-04:00

That's a Navy stack, but what has me confused is the Marine Security Guard ribbon.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 25 at 2017 2:59 AM

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If they want to spend four hours in the sauna in MOPP 4 doing flutter kicks, sure...

Response by CPO Ed Hoover made Nov 30 at 2017 6:13 PM

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I have a ribbon question. I was on USS Forrestal in 67. Our first line period in July only lasted 9 days due to our fire disaster. We were told when we headed back to the states, that we earned the VSM, along with one 3/16" service star, for the campaign we were involved in. Fast forward to June '68, USS America, back in Tonkin Gulf, again. This time we did a full cruise, returning home Dec. '68. While we were there, we were involved in 2 campaigns. I wore the VSM with 4, campaign stars. Figuring VSM and one star for Forrestal service, 1 star for second award of VSM and 2 more stars for campaigns on 2nd cruise. Is this correct?

Response by FN Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2017 11:13 AM

2017-12-21T11:13:19-05:00

If he was in full peanut butters probably a naval NCO if he was in khaki tops black bottom naval enlisted.

Response by Sgt Richard Triggs made Dec 22 at 2017 9:04 AM

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If you look at this stack, you see the Marine emblem device on the Iraq campaign and gwot service. Corpsman who served with Marine units wear that shit.

Response by SgtMaj Anthony Goss made Dec 22 at 2017 10:40 AM

2017-12-22T10:40:01-05:00

As someone earlier stated the person more than likely was a corpsman that qualified to be Marine Corps regs as they call it and therefore can wear the Marine Corps service uniforms.

Response by Capt Helen Slack made Dec 22 at 2017 12:11 PM

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I never asked but had a former enlisted Navy seal who I went the Marine basic school with who wore his all his Navy ribbons with no questions. They were in his OQR

Response by PO1 Tim Hilton made Dec 22 at 2017 3:37 PM

2017-12-22T15:37:17-05:00

This is not true. I don't think Navy pistol or rifle are not marine ribbons. But others should be ok. Good conduct, national defense, combat action all legimate.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2017 4:20 PM

2017-12-22T16:20:59-05:00

When I was Marine Corps Regulations as a Corpsman with the Battalions, I wore the ribbons. We confused a lot of sailors, soldiers, airman being in the Marine Corps Uniform.

Response by PO1 Scot Brown made Dec 22 at 2017 5:56 PM

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I certain this is former Marine, turned Navy. No doubt.
Campaign awards, Good Conduct and CAR earned while USMC, probably earned rifle/pistol awards while USN and EGA on campaign ribbons (medals) as a result of FMF service.

Response by Sgt Ricky Ramirez made Dec 22 at 2017 10:15 PM

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He probably was a green side corpsman, they get issued a full Marine Corps service uniform with exception to the Dress blues. That one the can only wear when they get buried. You will see green side corpsman in, chucks, deltas, alphas etc.. the ranks will be navy but ribbon and badges can be ether or

Response by SGT Chad Cherry made Dec 23 at 2017 12:03 AM

2017-12-23T00:03:42-05:00

Why would we want too?... lmao

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2017 12:37 AM

2017-12-23T00:37:59-05:00

He’s obviously a Navy Corpsman with the FMF devices on his ICM and GWOTSM. Relax, teufelhundens....

Response by PO2 Ulises Urbina made Dec 23 at 2017 4:17 AM

2017-12-23T04:17:16-05:00

Then this guy is all fucked up!!! But no his is stolen valor..
I was a Navy Corpsman and since Marines get badges for shooting Marksmanship, Sharpshooter, and Expert.. Corpsman get to wear the both, the Rifle and Pistol medals and ribbons; only if we shoot Expert; ribbons if we shoot anything less than Expert..

Only the Navy get to put on and wear those EGA’s on ribbons/medals; the reason is because only certain jobs are operational, and those EGA’s are saying that we got them by being operational with the Marines.. So since Marines are Marines they don’t wear those EAG’s on any ribbons and or medals!!

Then lastly, he is wearing ribbons that only get issued to Marines; the Marine Corps Security Guard Ribbon and the Marine Corps Good Cookie..
So this guy is a stolen valor case; he is wearing ribbons that belong to two different services!!
I can’t believe no one has called him out on it!!

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2017 8:05 AM

2017-12-23T08:05:31-05:00

Yes, Navy Corpsmen wear USMC Charlies but that ribbon rack does not make sense unless the individual is prior service. Something isn't right.

[] A Corpsman should not have a Marine Good Cookie or MSG unless he is prior service Marine.
[] A Marine should not have mini EGA on the campaign medals unless he is prior service Navy that did a combat tour with Marines and the Navy marksmanship ribbons would not be authorized.
[] To my knowledge the FMF Combat Operations Insignia (mini EGA device) has never been authorized on the GWOT Service Medal. That is a CONUS medal, so when where the Marines in combat CONUS?
[] Marine Corps Security Guard Ribbon (MSG) - 24 months of Marine Security Guard duty (MOS 8151) at a an American embassy or consulate in foreign country.

Response by PV2 Robert H. made Dec 23 at 2017 11:32 AM

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I've got a corpsman buddy who is required to wear his navy ribbons on his marine service uniforms. Since he has yet to be deployed with the fleet he cannot get marine corps ribbons yet other than the one he got for boot.

Response by PO2 Stephen Stasiowski made Dec 23 at 2017 4:22 PM

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Unless he is a FMF Corpman.

Response by SSG Cliff Karolak made Dec 23 at 2017 5:28 PM

2017-12-23T17:28:49-05:00

Being an Army type I have one Navy award. Meritorious Unit citation. Awarded to I MEF and it's unit's.

Response by SSgt Jonathan Dickey made Dec 23 at 2017 6:03 PM

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That rack looks like a fake. How do you get a CAR without a seaservice deployment ribbon. Has a Marine Good conduct medal but EVA devices on the Iraq and GWOT like Navy. Wearing a Marine MSG ribbon but no overseas service ribbon which is impossible.

Response by Maj George Ellis made Dec 23 at 2017 6:13 PM

2017-12-23T18:13:20-05:00

Possible for a Corpsman or RP serving with Marines and they'd also have their Navy rank insignia on their left sleeve with USMC Service C uniform under USMC uni regs. Pic is suspicious, though, because of the USMC Good Conduct Medal/Ribbon being worn in that arrangement...doesn't add up but may add up if the wearer was prior USMC and earned the USMC GCM then went Navy RP or HM route and then ended up with Mares and chose/elected to follow USMC regs. That would mean the wearer could display the Navy marksmanship ribbons and a USMC GCM on USMC Service uni. BTW...most sailors in that situation also rate the FMF Badge above their ribbons/medals.

Response by MSG Thomas Carter made Dec 23 at 2017 8:24 PM

2017-12-23T20:24:58-05:00

I was in the Navy then the Army ! 56 to 78 I wear both ..

Response by Cpl Kennard S. (Sean) Dixon made Dec 24 at 2017 1:53 AM

2017-12-24T01:53:28-05:00

I call BS in this one! At first, I was thinking this could be a Navy sailor who previously served in the Corps. However, after looking at it closely, something is wrong because there are EGA devices on both the Iraqi Campaign and Global War medals.

Response by MSgt Tim Gulledge made Dec 24 at 2017 11:54 AM

2017-12-24T11:54:16-05:00

Can wear battle E if stationed on the ship during award dates but no to marksmanship ribbon

Response by GySgt Fred Davis made Dec 24 at 2017 1:46 PM

2017-12-24T13:46:34-05:00

I think he a corpsman

Response by Cpl Joel Diones made Dec 24 at 2017 3:48 PM

2017-12-24T15:48:35-05:00

corpsman

Response by SFC Adam Knecht made Dec 24 at 2017 6:09 PM

2017-12-24T18:09:49-05:00

A troop can ALWAYS wear ribbons and medals the he/she earned regardless of the prior/current service branch. None of the statements about “equivalent” awards as mentioned in earlier posts are correct. They have to be worn IAW the current service uniform refs.....

Response by SSgt Norberto Gonzalez made Dec 24 at 2017 8:15 PM

2017-12-24T20:15:15-05:00

Nooooo of course not!!!!!
Do your homework!!

Response by SSgt Norberto Gonzalez made Dec 24 at 2017 8:16 PM

2017-12-24T20:16:29-05:00

Worried about putting him on blast??? That's what marines do!! Ask him and get your answer.. If he's wrong then you'll know.

Response by LtCol Ray Lipford made Dec 24 at 2017 10:35 PM

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Navy Corpman can wear a Marine Uniform but with navy awards. That was probably the case.

Response by PO2 Pascal Hay made Dec 25 at 2017 7:39 AM

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No. However, Navy personnel attached to the Corps are allowed to wear Marine Corps regulation uniforms (With the exception of dress blues) and they are authorized to wear those awards but not the Marine Corps ones. Although Hospital Corpsmen are not allowed to wear the globe and anchor on the hat, if they have served with the corps with distinction no one will disallow the wearing of it in place of the standard USN hat device.

Response by Cpl Kurt Huber made Dec 25 at 2017 11:22 AM

2017-12-25T11:22:03-05:00

FMF Corpsman.
Hence the small Eagle, Globe and Anchor devices which denotes deployments with an FMF Unit.
There's nothing wrong with this.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2017 11:42 AM

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As a dual service retiree, only medals and unit citations. Besides Navy marksmanship ribbons are single qual; whereas, marine weapon qualifications are yearly

Response by PO3 David Greeley made Dec 25 at 2017 1:05 PM

2017-12-25T13:05:45-05:00

No.

Response by PO3 David Greeley made Dec 25 at 2017 1:22 PM

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The only way that this ribbon rack would be authorized is if the person was prior service Marine Corps awarded the Marine Corps Good Conduct medal, reenlisted in the Navy, qualified as a marksman and was then operational with the Marine Corps to wear the eagle, globe and anchor on associated ribbons and medals. If this person was in fact a Marine, he would wear Marine marksman devices and not wear the EGA on his ribbons. My first impression is stolen valor.

Response by PO3 Jim Etzin made Dec 25 at 2017 2:52 PM

2017-12-25T14:52:30-05:00

Corpsman

Response by PO1 Don Thornton made Dec 25 at 2017 5:06 PM

2017-12-25T17:06:55-05:00

Was he a corpsman that is allowed to wear the service Charlie's with a marine unit?

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2017 8:03 PM

2017-12-25T20:03:00-05:00

When I was in the Marine Corps, I saw a Marine in Charlies with a submarine qualification badge
(He was former Navy. Also knew a former Army SF guy in the Marine Corps who had jump wings.

Response by Cpl Andrew Hunter made Dec 25 at 2017 9:09 PM

2017-12-25T21:09:01-05:00

It may be a navy coreman who wear marine uniforms if thay are fleet marine attached

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2017 10:35 PM

2017-12-25T22:35:48-05:00

MCO p1020.34g probably has the answer, js.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Dec 26 at 2017 12:14 AM

2017-12-26T00:14:02-05:00

Without a full body picture I can’t quite answer your question. There are Marine and Navy ribbons in this photo. I would ask more questions about the MSG ribbon within an overseas service ribbon to go with it.

Response by Sgt Kirk Rainey made Dec 26 at 2017 2:08 PM

2017-12-26T14:08:21-05:00

The haircut should give him away. Most likely a Doc in Marine Corps regs.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2017 5:33 PM

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You can tell it's a Corpsmen by the E.G.A on the Iraqi ribbon and what's that GWAT? I believe those signify they were deployed with a Marine unit. Our Corpsman had a similar rack

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2017 6:21 PM

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That’s an MSG ribbon on the bottom left, I’m pretty sure.

Response by SSgt Danny Brickey made Dec 26 at 2017 7:52 PM

2017-12-26T19:52:18-05:00

Why would one want to. Our badges are unique and cool. Unless u have the toilet seat.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2017 8:26 PM

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I don’t think he’s Navy that’s the MSG ribbon, does navy rate them too if they’re attached to an msg unit if that’s even a thing?

Response by LCpl Jay Thann made Dec 26 at 2017 9:08 PM

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Hello, corpsman wear marine class a when they are attached to them

Response by Sgt George Bernhardt made Dec 26 at 2017 9:19 PM

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Why the hell does he have a device on the GWOT service medal? And since when did Marines start wearing oak leaf cluster on the ICM? And if he was MSG he should have hit at least 6 years, where is his second award on his GCM? If he got NJPd and lost his GCM date then he wouldn’t have qualified for MSG.

Response by HN Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 3:15 AM

2017-12-27T03:15:11-05:00

Lol why is the silver star so low???

Response by SFC Rocky Stepp made Dec 27 at 2017 7:59 AM

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Army Weapons Qualification Badges expire if you dont keep up your qualification.

Response by Cpl Chuck Mosley made Dec 27 at 2017 4:54 PM

2017-12-27T16:54:55-05:00

No they get shooting badges

Response by Sgt Bryan Williams made Dec 27 at 2017 5:20 PM

2017-12-27T17:20:55-05:00

Part of the ship's company seagoing bellhop

Response by SN William Besold made Dec 28 at 2017 12:05 PM

2017-12-28T12:05:43-05:00

Nope that's a no no X Navy

Response by MSG Loren Tomblin made Dec 28 at 2017 1:47 PM

2017-12-28T13:47:59-05:00

Some troopers put on good stuff when they go home. I had a PVT working for me at Ft Campbell in a computer section. I stopped in to say hello to his dad on my way to WV. His dad had an 8x10 of him on his desk. He was sporting and EIB. I said nothing.

Response by SCPO Dwight Hazard made Dec 28 at 2017 5:54 PM

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Probably not a Corpsman since the picture shows a Marine Good Conduct medal. YNCS Retired

Response by PO1 Ron Booth made Dec 28 at 2017 8:18 PM

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This individual is wearing a Marine Good Conduct ribbon, not the Navy Good Conduct

Response by MSgt John Caldwell made Dec 28 at 2017 9:59 PM

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Marines can only wear ribbons earned from serving in previous branch before joining the Corps if the Corps also has an equivalent ribbon. Marines having shooting badges and not ribbons so, no, they can't wear marksmanship ribbons of other branches

Response by PO2 Jim Suttles made Dec 28 at 2017 10:08 PM

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If your prior service you can wear what you were awarded from that branch

Response by GySgt Mark Devlin made Dec 28 at 2017 10:09 PM

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Response by Sgt Tom Ott made Dec 28 at 2017 10:12 PM

2017-12-28T22:12:27-05:00

Looks like crap!

Response by PO2 David Cameron made Dec 28 at 2017 11:19 PM

2017-12-28T23:19:22-05:00

Corpsman only, which have an option of Marine qual or Navy Qual but can’t were both.

Response by SR Russ Sallet made Dec 29 at 2017 12:18 AM

2017-12-29T00:18:52-05:00

If they earned them they should be able to wear them, try telling me to take these off

Response by SR Russ Sallet made Dec 29 at 2017 12:20 AM

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Response by SSG Mike Jackson made Dec 29 at 2017 12:50 AM

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If you earned the ribbon award with the service page entry you can wear those ribbons IAW DoD directives & proper precedence for the service you switch to and-no service component can prevent you from wearing a ribbon medal, or award it just ensures that you segregate the unit citations on one side per the components regulation... I did 14yrs Navy & 12 years Army.. thank god I had orders for all my awards, badges, medals, & unit citations

Response by MAJ Charles Briwa made Dec 29 at 2017 5:04 AM

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I was prior enlisted in the Coast Guard and then officer in the Army but not permitted to wear my CG Rifle Marksman nor CG PIstol Sharpshooter awards. I was told that the Army course of fire was more difficult than the CG and had to wear Army awards after earning them.

Response by SSgt David Harper made Dec 29 at 2017 8:28 AM

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New Navy uniform looks like the Corps. Saw it a few years back at Dallas airport.
So the answer is, he may be Navy Corpsman.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2017 10:54 AM

2017-12-29T10:54:14-05:00

That's a corpsman or RP

Response by LCDR Robert S. made Dec 29 at 2017 2:09 PM

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The answer to your question is "No, Marines can't wear the Navy rifle and pistol ribbons." Sailors, on the other hand, who are serving with the Marines *can*, so those two ribbons could be validly worn by an RP or Corpsman serving with the Marines. If the Sailor had previously served with the Marines, he could have both a Marine Good Conduct Medal and a Marine Corps Security Guard ribbon.

That said, any explanation of this rack includes at least one, and most likely two errors.
One error is that in order to have the Security Guard ribbon, he has to have two years of service at an embassy or consulate, and thus would have also qualified for an Overseas Service Ribbon, unless that service was prior to the OSR being authorized in 1986. Another possibility that I read about is that Regional Command Staff have been authorized to wear the ribbon as well, without having served in an embassy - since I don't know when that started, I don't know whether it's possible that a prior service Marine now serving in the Navy could have gotten one for that and have had time to get the GWOT and Afghan medals.
The second error is the FMF Combat Operations insignia on the GWOT Service Medal - although a combat device theoretically *could* be authorized for it, no combat devices ever have been.

Response by HN Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2017 3:32 PM

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Welcome to the life of a Navy Corpsman:

-Where the Regs are loose and Awards dont matter!!!

Response by HN Jonathan Hakes made Dec 29 at 2017 6:28 PM

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Corpsman

Response by SFC Bill Forte made Dec 29 at 2017 6:35 PM

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Because the Corps has its own weapons qualification badges, wearing of the Navy ribbons would be redundant.

Response by Capt Joseph Schvimmer made Dec 29 at 2017 7:45 PM

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Could he be a Navy Corpsman?

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2017 8:34 PM

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That stack is a sailor. Marines don't put ega's on their campaign medals. And technically those aren't ribbons. Expert rifle and pistol quals get you medals, sharpshooter and marksman get ribbons.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2017 12:30 AM

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Corpsman that went Marine Regs.

Response by Sgt Jason Smith made Dec 30 at 2017 7:17 AM

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Are you sure it wasn't a sailor or officer of the Navy in Marine Regs? Naval personnel assigned to Marine Corps units are authorized to wear Marine Corps alphas and Charlie's.

Response by MGySgt Theodore Loepp made Dec 30 at 2017 7:34 AM

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No you can’t wear navy qualification ribbons as a Marine. You sure he wasn’t a Corpman who decided to go with Marine Corps Regs.

Response by CPO Jim Glenn made Dec 30 at 2017 10:37 AM

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Only CORPSMAN wear the navy ribbons we cannot wear marine marks man badge.

Response by CPO Jim Glenn made Dec 30 at 2017 10:55 AM

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Need to review awards. Many marine awards are also navy. The stake is being worn by a CORPSMAN with prior enlistment in marines. You are allowed to wear other service ribbons only if you served in an other branch. To confirm you must go to awards manuel! This person is not wearing the ribbons correctly. Many devices are missing. We CORPSMAN are allowed to wear the Marine uniform with the exception of service dress blue. That is a choice we make upone assignment to FMF.

Response by PO2 Andre Johnson made Dec 30 at 2017 5:12 PM

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Me being a former corpsman attached to the Marines my ribbons were similar. I was allowed to wear my marksman ribbons.

Response by HN Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2017 8:52 PM

2017-12-30T20:52:19-05:00

Field corpsman (FMF) can opt to wear marine uniform and follow marine regulations when assigned to them, however they are still navy so that's probably why

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2017 10:33 PM

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Have you consider he was a Marine first but got out and joined the Navy? Most likely a RP or Corpsman now.

Response by CPO Marshell Crider made Dec 30 at 2017 11:10 PM

2017-12-30T23:10:50-05:00

Being a former Marine, I had to wear my ribbons like this after I join the Navy.

Response by Cpl Adam Rader made Dec 31 at 2017 11:12 AM

2017-12-31T11:12:05-05:00

Could have been a corpsman with marine reqs I think its called, where they do our pft and cft and get tested on knowledge and then they have other stuff I'm sure they have to do beyond that but once completed they get to wear our(marines) uniforms

Response by LT Corey Patterson made Dec 31 at 2017 1:39 PM

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One caveat might be there are qualification ribbons and medals which are awarded if they score expert twice in a three year period. The qual ribbons can only be worn for a year unless they requalify. They can wear the ribbon with the Expert E insignia at all times after they are awarded the medal.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 4:12 PM

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That person would be in the Navy.

Response by SCPO John-florida Killin made Dec 31 at 2017 4:17 PM

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I'm not a big fan of wearing other branch ribbons. I recall a Navy guy running around a reserve center with seven rows of ribbons on his uniform. Of those I could recognize were the USAF and Army good conduct medals. JMO, he looked ridiculous. Also, except for spec war guys and FMF corpsmen, Navy recipients of the combat action ribbon should be suspect. The Navy awarded the CAR to persons assigned to the hospital ship during the first Persian Gulf War, and they are giving it out again to people who were on the ships that got shot at and missed by several miles off of Yemen. In the USMC, you only get that if you are personally involved in fighting, e.g., if you are wounded or killed by a mortar round while sitting in the mess tent, you will get the Purple Heart, but no CAR.

Response by FN Charlie Spivey made Dec 31 at 2017 6:17 PM

2017-12-31T18:17:43-05:00

That ribbon on the second row right. If it wasn't for the two Verticle White stripes, it would be the Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon. A single White strip in the Center, Coast Guard Unit citation. Have no clue as to what that is. Not the Navy MUC either as that is different than the NUC in a big way. Those Range Qualification ribbons could be Coastie as well. Army uses the Metal things and not sure about the Air Force. There is a Combat Action Ribbon too.

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Dec 31 at 2017 8:56 PM

2017-12-31T20:56:03-05:00

The Gunny is correct!

Response by GySgt Pete Villarreal made Dec 31 at 2017 8:57 PM

2017-12-31T20:57:57-05:00

I believe they can Only wear personal awards

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 9:53 PM

2017-12-31T21:53:02-05:00

Battle E ribbons are not marksmanship ribbons. They denote a navy service member who was attached to a ship which earned a battle E. Marines have used to rate one if they were attached as ship’s company. That changed in the 90’s. It is still possible to see a Marine who rated a battle E from the 90’s but it is rare.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 10:28 PM

2017-12-31T22:28:58-05:00

Corspmen or RP

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2018 1:00 AM

2018-01-01T01:00:00-05:00

If they earned the ribbons it can be argued that they should be able to. But as for military regulation I don't know.

Response by GySgt Stephen Hogarth made Jan 1 at 2018 12:05 PM

2018-01-01T12:05:08-05:00

MCO P1020.34G
CHAPTER 8, §8001 (NAVY PERSONNEL SERVING WITH MARINE CORPS UNITS), Paragraph 4.a.
"a. Awards. In addition to those awards listed in chapter 5 that Marines may wear, Navy personnel may wear, when so entitled, the FMF Service Ribbon and, on designated awards, the FMF Combat Operation Insignia. Navy marksmanship ribbons may also be worn on Marine Corps service uniforms. Navy personnel who subsequently qualify for Marine Corps marksmanship badges may wear them in lieu of Navy marksmanship ribbons at their option."

CHAPTER 5, §5100 (AUTHORIZATION), Paragraphs 4 & 5.
"4. Examples of other U.S. service awards which are not authorized include: marksmanship medals/ribbons (Navy/Coast Guard/Air Force), USAF Outstanding Airman of the Year, USAF Recognition Ribbon, USAF Longevity Service Award, NCO Professional Development/Education ribbons (Army/Air Force), Army Service/USAF training ribbons.
5. The Combat Infantryman's Badge or the Combat Medical Badge is not authorized for wear on the Marine Corps uniform. Upon submission of evidence to their commanding officer, personnel who earned the Combat Infantryman Badge or Combat Medical Badge may be authorized to wear the Combat Action Ribbon."

Response by AN Gene Murphy made Jan 1 at 2018 10:08 PM

2018-01-01T22:08:56-05:00

This is a sailor wearing this uniform.

Response by Cpl Herman Andalcio made Jan 2 at 2018 2:11 PM

2018-01-02T14:11:26-05:00

This is common sense. Marines wear badges and Navy wear ribbons. Period

Response by Maj Jayson Durden made Jan 3 at 2018 12:22 AM

2018-01-03T00:22:22-05:00

Either that’s a prior Marine who became a sailor or someone wearing the wrong ribbons. The Iraq Campaign Medal has an EGA that only navy wear and the EGA on the GWOTSM is wrong. So someone has some jacked up ribbons either way - Combat Action could be either - Marine Corps GCM, National defense - ICM and GWOTSM have EGAs - then you have a Marine MSG followed by Navy Qual badges. I’m going to say some bought some stuff and made a rack.

Response by CPL Chris Palmberg made Jan 3 at 2018 1:59 AM

2018-01-03T01:59:24-05:00

I believe the issue here is the difference between permanent and temporary awards. Qual awards (badges or ribbons being immaterial to the point) must be earned periodically based upon service requirements. If you get top marks in Boot, and then later receive a more mediocre score on an annual qualification, you don't continue to wear your expert badge, you switch to the most current device. By the same token, a member who transfers to a new branch wears the device indicating his or her current qualification. Thus, a sailor who goes to Army or Marine Corps Basic, they must complete marksmanship training to pass, thus negating their previous qualification award in lieu of the current one.

Response by AN Brett Nabors made Jan 3 at 2018 2:30 AM

2018-01-03T02:30:54-05:00

Probably a corpsman

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2018 1:17 PM

2018-01-03T13:17:10-05:00

Maybe a Corpsman, but his order of precedence is jacked up.

Response by Cpl Demetri Golfinopoulos made Jan 3 at 2018 4:52 PM

2018-01-03T16:52:02-05:00

FMF Corpsman’s stack. Try again!

Response by Sgt Talitha Benz made Jan 3 at 2018 8:44 PM

2018-01-03T20:44:31-05:00

Prior service yes and active yes.

Response by SSG Harper Peterson made Jan 3 at 2018 9:29 PM

2018-01-03T21:29:50-05:00

The ribbons with EGAs o them signify that while the guy is a Sailor, they were earned while he was a Corpsman in the Fleet Marine Force.

Response by Cpl Hartley Cole made Jan 3 at 2018 10:17 PM

2018-01-03T22:17:32-05:00

Well first of all before you confront a Marine or Sailor about thier Ribbons/medals make sure you know what you are talking about first and what branch younare addressing. The Marine Charlies are green trousers and now the have has Charlie's with blue trousers. I would bet you anything that this military person you were about to address as about to embarrass you because he was probably a Navy corpsman attached to Marine unit.

Response by Sgt William Parker made Jan 4 at 2018 3:27 AM

2018-01-04T03:27:23-05:00

That's a Corpsmen rack. The qual ribbons and having the EGA affixed to the GWOT and cMpIgn ribbons are something they do as well. Marines are allowed to wear unit awards, Personal awards even from other branches with only a couple exceptions (if any) and of course marksmanship badges. You'll see a Marine with a coast guard MUC, or wearing an army achievement medal. You my also see one weari g distinguished shooting badges (a rarity that I've had the honor to witness) and so on. Also some or most foreign awards are allowed although there are exceptions. I'm not sure on exactly which are and aren't but I've been out 12 years and don't have my green monster handy

Response by SGT Thomas Wilt made Jan 4 at 2018 10:51 AM

2018-01-04T10:51:24-05:00

I feel that if you earned the ribbon wear it , it shows that you have accomplished a goal that you are proud wear it with pride half of our leadership have more ribbons on their chest they wear them

Response by SSgt Gerald Davis Jr made Jan 4 at 2018 3:34 PM

2018-01-04T15:34:46-05:00

I believe the regulation is, you wear your last qualification. I wore my Marine Corps Rifle Expert and Pistol Sharpshooter in the National Guard.

Response by John Buckner made Jan 4 at 2018 6:17 PM

2018-01-04T18:17:42-05:00

Nope...

Response by SGT Chris Colombini made Jan 5 at 2018 2:17 AM

2018-01-05T02:17:41-05:00

Navy corpsman possibly. Also Chaplains Assistants.

Response by John Buckner made Jan 5 at 2018 5:47 PM

2018-01-05T17:47:54-05:00

Nope.

Response by SSgt Bob Flood made Jan 6 at 2018 9:00 AM

2018-01-06T09:00:29-05:00

Why would they? Odd......

Response by Sgt David Lapene made Jan 6 at 2018 10:28 AM

2018-01-06T10:28:31-05:00

He was a corpsman

Response by Cpl Kevin Murray made Jan 6 at 2018 5:42 PM

2018-01-06T17:42:55-05:00

The ribbons w/EGA on them are issued to Corpsman I believe.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2018 6:18 PM

2018-01-06T18:18:03-05:00

That's navy. If you look at the EGAS that means the navy was awarded them through the Marine Corps. Marines will wear stars not EGAS

Response by CWO4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2018 7:40 PM

2018-01-06T19:40:01-05:00

Are you sure it wasn't a Corpsman execising the Marine regs option?

Response by PO1 Bob Frierdich made Jan 6 at 2018 11:08 PM

2018-01-06T23:08:21-05:00

Are you sure he wasn't a Hospital Corpsman attached to the green-side? We had HM's that agreed to go Marine Corps regs (haircut, uniform and PT standards) Not a viable option for me though...wanted nothing to do with their regs!

Response by LCDR Ed Lynch made Jan 11 at 2018 1:37 PM

2018-01-11T13:37:23-05:00

If he was prior service Navy, and earned them, then yes. Or a Corpsman.

Response by Cpl Shawn Donald made Jan 18 at 2018 8:57 AM

2018-01-18T08:57:14-05:00

Navy Corpman and RPs can choose to wear either the ribbon or the metal quads ribbon but once they make that decision it is theirs to keep until their next duty station. But Marines are not allowed to

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Jan 26 at 2018 8:34 PM

2018-01-26T20:34:44-05:00

I don't think so, the Marines issue the metal ones for a reason. Also the idiot got the rifle and pistol ribbons backwards. ALSO where is the GWOT Expeditionary ribbon? This person did see combat as indicated by the Combat Action Medal and Iraq Campaign Medal. This person could be a Navy Corpsman

Response by SPC Maurice Tillman made Jan 27 at 2018 4:24 AM

2018-01-27T04:24:54-05:00

Yes. The Marines are Naval "soldiers". So, they can wear Navy medals. All medals legally earned can be worn and do not require special permissions to wear. They were issued, under the presidential orders. Nobody outranks the President. So, nobody can tell a troop that they can't wear their medals. That's what medals are for...

However, marksmanship badges must be worn, per branch. If one switches branches, they cannot wear marksmanship badges until they pass with their new unit.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 3 at 2018 1:10 PM

2018-02-03T13:10:49-05:00

Want to wear their stuff, then change services!

Response by SFC Rob Moore made Feb 7 at 2018 1:18 AM

2018-02-07T01:18:20-05:00

If he's FMF. He's allowed.

Response by CWO4 Ray Fairman made Feb 12 at 2018 4:31 PM

2018-02-12T16:31:15-05:00

That would be a negative.. Wearing equivalent service awards is a minefield.. It can be navigated for some awards, but gets very tricky very fast. As a side bar: when I was standing Duty NCO at a training command back in 1964 as a Corporal, I had a young Lance Corporal approach my desk to check out his Liberty Card (Anyone out there remember those days?) he was wearing a "boat load"of fruit salad and I asked him if he was retraining into an aviation MOS. It was not unusual at that time to see "Infantry Retreads" coming over to "the wing" after having served in combat. He told me no and I asked him where he got all the "Chest Candy" to which he responded "Oh Gee Corporal, they sell it back in the rear corner of the PX... It sure makes your uniform look a lot better and its not expensive either."
Since I am now a Chaplain, we'll end the sea story here and let you guess the rest... But if you think his next award was a "Purple" one.. you are close

Response by PO1 Michael Steffens made Mar 22 at 2018 7:15 PM

2018-03-22T19:15:31-04:00

Any way I look at this it is not right!

Response by SFC William Ewing made Jul 23 at 2019 12:42 AM

2019-07-23T00:42:35-04:00

Each service branch had a list of what is authorized.
Some awards from service in another branch or working with the other one.

Will be posted but not authorized for wear.

Response by Sgt Peter Schlesiona made Jul 23 at 2019 12:11 PM

2019-07-23T12:11:23-04:00

I believe that if the Marine had prior service with the Navy and earned them while a sailor, he/she is allowed to wear them even after changing services.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2019 7:53 PM

2019-07-23T19:53:06-04:00

Could be prior service as a Marine. I didn’t catch the good cookie medal. And posers would wear a heck of a lot more bling. So someone cross-decked. Corpsmen can wear the Marine uniform. And what else makes me think this is a Corpsman is the other awards with the Marine Corps emblem devices. Unless the Navy has a Reg that says a former Jarhead can add the device to identify prior service Corps, but I doubt it.

Response by PO2 Christopher Sennett made Jul 23 at 2019 9:13 PM

2019-07-23T21:13:51-04:00

I agree that they were prior service Marine and crossed over to the Navy. Their rifle and pistol qual badges convert over to the Navy awards.

Response by MSG Arthur Ross made Jul 23 at 2019 10:15 PM

2019-07-23T22:15:33-04:00

Not sure about Marine policies. Students in ROTC who earn medal are allowed to wear them after joining the Army.

Response by SSG Danny Anderson made Jul 24 at 2019 1:48 PM

2019-07-24T13:48:22-04:00

No they can't wear them on a Marine uniform. They may can swap them for the shooting badges or depending on their unit, the Corps may make them go to the range to qual for the shooting badges

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2019 7:26 PM

2019-07-24T19:26:29-04:00

EGA on campaign ribbons? Never seen that before. You sure this isn't a Navy rack? I know if they are attached to a Marine unit when they earned it, but could've sworn we use stars.

Response by Sgt Brad LaChapelle made Jul 24 at 2019 9:51 PM

2019-07-24T21:51:41-04:00

I was in the Navy and then after my Navy obligation I went into the Marine Corps. My awards and ribbons followed me and I was allowed to wear the Battle "E" as well as Sea Service Deployment. This was discussed with me while I was in Marine Corps boot camp. Most awards and ribbons cross over between the Navy and Marine Corps as they all fall under the Department of the Navy. There were a few that did not carry over and I cannot remember which ones....but someone mentioned qualification ribbons and that sounds familiar. BTW the ribbons in the photo do not look right.

Response by CPO Steve Houser made Jul 25 at 2019 10:58 PM

2019-07-25T22:58:54-04:00

Looks like a Doc's ribbon bar, but they're wearing a Marine Good Conduct with the stripe.

Response by PO2 Anthony Rivers made Jul 27 at 2019 11:24 AM

2019-07-27T11:24:12-04:00

He was probably a Navy Corpsman...they wear the marines khaki uniform...allowed to and expected to.

Response by SPC Jeffrey Evetts made Jul 27 at 2019 2:35 PM

2019-07-27T14:35:34-04:00

I have one issue with this setup. I have both GWOT Expeditionary and Service as well as Iraq Campaign. EGA is not approved by Congress for wear on those medals it is stars for ALL branches of service. I have 3 on my Iraq Campaign or GWOT Expeditionary depending on which I choose to wear.