Maj Chris Nelson 1153657 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So, we all know (or should know), that a 20 year retirement is akin to receiving a "retainer fee". We are subject to recall at the nation's request. With the re-structuring of the retirement program to become less "cliff-vested" and offer some type of retirement at earlier time frame.... is there any type of obligation to anyone receiving these funds to return to service in time of need? is there a greater pay-off at 20+ years that obligates THEM to some type of recall (at the nation's request)? I JUST had this thought hit me! What is your take? Current Military retirement requires potential recall. With new plan, what is the end product? 2015-12-05T19:17:44-05:00 Maj Chris Nelson 1153657 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So, we all know (or should know), that a 20 year retirement is akin to receiving a "retainer fee". We are subject to recall at the nation's request. With the re-structuring of the retirement program to become less "cliff-vested" and offer some type of retirement at earlier time frame.... is there any type of obligation to anyone receiving these funds to return to service in time of need? is there a greater pay-off at 20+ years that obligates THEM to some type of recall (at the nation's request)? I JUST had this thought hit me! What is your take? Current Military retirement requires potential recall. With new plan, what is the end product? 2015-12-05T19:17:44-05:00 2015-12-05T19:17:44-05:00 Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS 1153663 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There's greater pay-ins (in theory) during service via Bonuses, and 401k style Matching, which in theory creates a similar obligation. Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Dec 5 at 2015 7:20 PM 2015-12-05T19:20:42-05:00 2015-12-05T19:20:42-05:00 COL Vincent Stoneking 1153678 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As long as there is a defined benefit component, I expect it will continue to be a "retainer" rather than a true "retirement", and you (we) will remain subject to recall. I have seen nothing that would indicate that they are considering changing that, though it would be an interesting idea. Response by COL Vincent Stoneking made Dec 5 at 2015 7:29 PM 2015-12-05T19:29:38-05:00 2015-12-05T19:29:38-05:00 SFC A.M. Drake 1153761 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In any agreement The "House" always win! So you can better your retirement dollars on the recall option will always be there. Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Dec 5 at 2015 8:34 PM 2015-12-05T20:34:26-05:00 2015-12-05T20:34:26-05:00 MSgt Curtis Ellis 1154189 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="71681" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/71681-maj-chris-nelson">Maj Chris Nelson</a> Good question... Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Dec 6 at 2015 2:59 AM 2015-12-06T02:59:17-05:00 2015-12-06T02:59:17-05:00 SSG Waldo Yamada 3735817 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just to entertain. The Space Force got me chimed in on the news. Well I don’t have much physical profile but I got 4 books for my medboard for psych evaluation. Wish I’d get recalled in. Yet, I signed the line to accept retirement right when I found out I could’ve just served in garrison. I’d say back back and gimme 50 feet. And gimme some spaace duuuu! Response by SSG Waldo Yamada made Jun 23 at 2018 11:47 AM 2018-06-23T11:47:16-04:00 2018-06-23T11:47:16-04:00 2015-12-05T19:17:44-05:00