Do you believe that "Radicalized Military Vets" are a true threat to the Nation?

MSG Lonnie Averkamp — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 13:43:29 -0400

So, this is from the Daily Beast, and it infers that military veterans must be monitored. It brings up "the present and historical ties between American hate groups and armed servicemen and women....".

My own belief is that, because Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards tend to not vote the way that the staff of the Daily Beast would like, then they should be rounded up like the Gypsies and Jews in Germany in 1939 (too much of a threat to the New Order).

It seems that this article would classify George Washington as a "Radicalized Military Vet".

So, how do you see it?

Here is the full article:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/against-all-enemies-review-the-chilling-threat-of-radicalized-military-vets

The Chilling Threat of Radicalized U.S. Military Vets

Charlie Sadoff’s documentary “Against All Enemies” investigates how white nationalist organizations go after soldiers and cops—and shows you why that’s so scary.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jun 10 at 2023 1:51 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 13:51:02 -0400

I believe what this article points out.

"Charlie Sadoff’s documentary details how a collection of anti-government white-nationalist movements have increasingly gained traction inside our borders, often by strategically recruiting those committed to protecting the nation: law enforcement and military service members."

Response by SFC Marc W. made Jun 10 at 2023 3:48 PM

SFC Marc W. — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:48:26 -0400

He is an entertainment critic, generally speaking his opinion is completely useless.
I haven't seen the movie, but the article does nothing to actually support all the claims in it with any kind of fact, statistic, or data; he simply quotes politicians.
For a long time there was talk of how gangs were sending people into the military to get training to become more useful on the streets.
There will always be fringe groups and there will always be veterans who feel betrayed by the government that join them. It isn't really limited to any race or religion. But when they focus it down this way, they make it seem as if 50% of vets end up in these groups and that they number in the millions in size.
How many vets were involved in the riots throughout America's major cities during 2020? Why aren't we exploring that since they want to go so heavily into the capitol intrusion?
I wouldn't put this as an article anywhere near realistic, but simply garbage click bait; which I bit, because it was here.

Response by SFC John D. made Jun 10 at 2023 3:50 PM

SFC John D. — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:50:19 -0400

I'll believe a respectable organization like RAND before I believe the portrayal by the far-left Daily Beast, even if there is a slight possibility that there might be some truth to it.

I willingly grant the premise the documentary writer makes that far-right extremists will try to recruit from the military, but I completely reject the notion that the military is full of far-right extremists or that they have a 'significant foothold' in it.

A recent RAND study (https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA1071-2.html) showed that there was no evidence to support the notion that the veteran community, as a whole, manifests higher rates of support for violent extremist groups or extremist beliefs than the American public.

In fact, since White supremacists were mentioned, you were five and a half times more likely to find far-left extremist support (Anfita) than you were for White supremacists (5.5% vs 1%), both which is far less than the rest of the population (7% of nonveterans support White supremacy and 10% of nonveterans support Antifa).

As the study says, "Vets on average seem to be very resilient to those efforts. And so I think that some of the characteristics that draw you to serve your country will help protect against forces that would undermine your country"

So yes, while I expect the left to lap up some documentary stating the bias beliefs (at least for Goldsmith) of those he interviewed, I'll stick with something more reputable.

But, But, But ... UMC did a study and found that almost 1 in 7 of the people from Jan 6th were veterans! Ok, Chicago police arrest stats show that 70% of the BLM rioters that were arrested for looting, arson, and violence between 29 and 31 May were black. Raise the alarm! Of course that is as non-sensical as someone picking the veteran stat out of the mix and saying it proves that veterans are predisposed towards extremism.

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2023 4:30 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:30:49 -0400

That's the sort of thing you see when one reads trash. Pay no attention to it. MHO

Response by SGT Jim Arnold made Jun 10 at 2023 4:57 PM

SGT Jim Arnold — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:57:57 -0400

MSG Lonnie Averkamp short answer is no. there are screw ups on both sides of the political spectrum and a few in between but to call a whole group radical is ridiculous

Response by LTC David Brown made Jun 10 at 2023 5:09 PM

LTC David Brown — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:09:19 -0400

A few years back a JAG officer and expert in gang tags and signs found them all over military bases. He was concerned about gang members joining the military to gain combat experience in gang wars. Should we worry about that?

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Jun 10 at 2023 8:18 PM

LTC Trent Klug — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:18:26 -0400

Nope. Remember just two years ago, a stand down for the military was ordered. After leaders got done sniffing around, only about 100 personnel were discharged for their extremist views. Not even a blip on the radar .

Response by Sara Lucas made Jun 10 at 2023 8:42 PM

Sara Lucas — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:42:35 -0400

Oh Please

Response by LTC John Griscom made Jun 10 at 2023 10:56 PM

LTC John Griscom — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 22:56:07 -0400

I know that most of the veterans still take their oath very seriously.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jun 10 at 2023 11:05 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Sat, 10 Jun 2023 23:05:56 -0400

Clearly.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/958915267/nearly-one-in-five-defendants-in-capitol-riot-cases-served-in-the-military

Nearly 1 In 5 Defendants In Capitol Riot Cases Served In The Military

Amid rising concern over domestic extremism, an NPR analysis found military veterans were overrepresented in those charged in the attack on the U.S. Capitol when compared to the general population.

Response by SPC James Neidig made Jun 11 at 2023 1:59 AM

SPC James Neidig — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 01:59:18 -0400

I Think A lot Of The Military Veterans Who Are Currently Joining The Anti-Government Groups Are Not Happy With The Current Administration And The Direction They Are Taking It.
Because No True American Patriot Would Accept A Socialist Style Government , Most Believe That Hard Work And Dedication Are The Path To Success, Not Government Handouts.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Jun 11 at 2023 4:24 PM

SFC Stephen King — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 16:24:57 -0400

Nope

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Jun 14 at 2023 3:31 PM

SMSgt Bob Wilson — Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:31:05 -0400

Do you believe that "Radicalized Military Vets" are a true threat to the Nation? YES!!! Many Vets I encountered which are my definition of "Radical" are people who have a "axe to grind" with the military--some were discharged for cause, some were injured, and some are just outright NUTS. Mix this group with the military "want-to-bes" and you have a troublesome situation. The problem today is we have the far left and the far right mentally disturb people who want to be in charge of something to "better the government". Today's Washington "kooks" are no different than the "rejects" we got rid of in 2020. The problem is the other side of the "Radicalized Military Vets" are wanting their 15 minutes of fame. I believe that January 6, 2021 provided that there is a problem with the far conservative and the far liberal opinions of the country. The "entitled" Americans [sic], to which there are no such thing, want either government control over everything or to live in the Rocky Mountains secluded by forest and living in a bunker six feet below the earth's surface.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jun 19 at 2023 5:43 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 19 Jun 2023 05:43:38 -0400

Anyone who is radicalized is a threat to something. Are they a threat to democracy, whether they are for or against? Are they a threat to society? Bottom line is that no one should take up arms against our government, we fight within the country through peaceful demonstrations and our vote.

Radicalized anyone is fine as long as they protest peacefully and allow the system to work. What we have seen in the past couple of years has been wrong on all fronts, not one group or party has clean hands. The riots and pillaging in the streets, as well as the March jntobthe nations capital (in addition to others) are prime examples of radicalization gone wrong.

We have always had armed individuals who exercise there rights to bare them, it is the stated purpose that makes right from wrong.

We should follow the law, and enforce the law, whether that be in our inner cities, or at our borders. Enough is enough.

Response by CSM Thomas Ray made Jun 21 at 2023 10:34 AM

CSM Thomas Ray — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:34:57 -0400

“It’s difficult to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s impossible to win an argument with an idiot.”

Response by SPC David C. made Jun 29 at 2023 8:52 PM

SPC David C. — Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:52:02 -0400

No. I honestly believe the uniformed services, to include Fire, police, and EMS don't drink the same brand of Kool-Aid that democratic policy makers drink. We see too much of the real world, not the make believe view through the rose colored glasses they want everyone to believe. Those politicians can't directly attack the services because that's career suicide, so they do shit like this to "discredit" the services.

Response by SPC Jay Peltier made Jun 30 at 2023 9:34 AM

SPC Jay Peltier — Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:34:37 -0400

Historically speaking vets have been known to be active in "political movements" both above board and below. Like everyone i suppose. They however are recruited with much more vigor due to their former jobs. Those is all common sense so far.

The hard part today is the absolute fanaticism or cult like devotion some have to their new found "truth". There is no reasoning with most in this group, they have "drank the koolaide" as they say.

So it's only reasonable to assume they will follow those they believe in to perform "unlawful/seditious" acts in the name of their beliefs (misguided or not).

How many vets(some current) took place at the Jan 6th insurrection?

Is it a problem, yes, but there is no easy answer. Again, this is a cult like mentality some of them have. I doubt there are enough deprogrammers to handle this.

Recently the "groups" have definitely become more "cult like".

Response by SP5 Philip McClure made Jul 6 at 2023 1:32 AM

SP5 Philip McClure — Thu, 06 Jul 2023 01:32:45 -0400

One sides terrorist is the other sides freedom fighter.
That being said, which side has consistently been using terror (looting, burning, rioting, violence, threats, etc) to gain their political goals?
A free man believes what he sees, not what he is told.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2023 7:15 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:15:20 -0400

I used to teach anti/counter-terrorism and I would point out that a guerilla war is currently being waged in America that most people that are not familiar with guerilla war are oblivious to. This is the unclassified version of the Unconventional Warfare Pyramid. There are only minor differences and a couple of additions in the classified version. Read it and study it from the bottom up, then ask yourself, WHO is actually following this? It is not the right, conservatives or veterans. Veterans took an oath to Defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. IMO, most veterans will hold and support their oath to the Constitution. The situation we currently have is interestingly unique. Usually, it is a faction, undermining a government. In America, we currently have parts of the government, undermining the Constitution, which is the founding documents and foundation of that government. In addition, we have parts of Law Enforcement and the DOJ, clearly (and provable) violating the Constitution and giving favoritism to specific bodies, organizations, persons and groups while clearly making examples of others that do not follow their agenda. If this continues, you will have a breakdown of the entire judicial system, and anarchy will ensue. The judicial system, and the promise of equal justice , according to the Constitution, has been what held this country together for 247 years. When the judicial system breaks down and favors one part of the population, it creates massive animosity from the other parts of the population and the country as a whole WILL devolve.
In addition, the U.S. currently has a government that has abdicated it's primary responsibility according to the Constitution, which is to "Provide for the Common Defense", ie the protection of America's borders." Talk to any Border Patrol agent and they will tell you they don't have control of America's Borders and we are being overrun.
I could go on and on, but you should get the drift. We are heading for a breakdown of society but it isn't going to come from "Radicalized Military Veterans".

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2023 5:31 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 05:31:12 -0400

I mean…how much evidence do you need? I suspect no amount will convince you against your preconceived notions.

Response by SGT Nelson Stahl made Jul 19 at 2023 2:45 PM

SGT Nelson Stahl — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:45:24 -0400

One should remember this story is political propaganda. A veteran is no greater threat than anyone else. No mater how great you consider your skills without weapons and support you are just another citizen. The real threat is the division being driven by both parties. Yes veterans will go to both extremes but most of us will stay in the middle ground.

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Jul 19 at 2023 3:58 PM

A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:58:43 -0400

As In Any Other Situation, If They Break The Law,
Follow Through With Appropriate Action;
Otherwise, Mind Your Own Damned Business.

Response by LtCol Robert Quinter made Jul 19 at 2023 10:14 PM

LtCol Robert Quinter — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 22:14:45 -0400

What is an extremist? When you consider polls show only 30-35% of the population feel our country is on the correct course, that means 65-70% are not content with our current state of affairs. I would wager veteran philosophies follow the same pattern. The 30-35% and elitists look down on the gross percentage as ignorant, misguided, or terrorists because they don't share their opinion on how things should be. The pendulum will swing.

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Jul 20 at 2023 11:51 AM

SSG Bill McCoy — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:51:00 -0400

Good quesiton that deserves serious input!
I believe the issue does merit SOME concern; but to label Veterans, Christions or any conservatives as potentially dangerous, is (almost) literally insanity. In fact, it's the opposite side of the issue that concerns me ... as you note, it's as if the Daily Beast simply categorizes all, "Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards," as ready for the roundup to the concenrtration camps.
The rants about conservatives of any ilk, are all hysterics and exaggeration. That's partly because many of us (Vets) tend to say that the Oaths we took against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, scares the crap out of those who really do want to rule U.S. citizens. That's not to say there aren't some deviant Veterans, no more or less so than any other segment of the population. Besides, not all veterans are actually well trained, with only Basic being their experience with weapons of any sort.
I guess it's the new verson of Vietnam Vets all being drug addicts, psycho baby killers and such. Sad and harmful to not just Vets, but the country overall.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Jul 20 at 2023 12:05 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:05:23 -0400

It might depend on the definition of "radicalized." If it is to the left, the point might be valid.

Response by CPL Neubauer Ted made Jul 20 at 2023 3:13 PM

CPL Neubauer Ted — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:13:49 -0400

The Daily Beast is equivalent to the National Enquirer, they put stories like this out to sensationalize and scare the uninformed. The scariest right-wing radicals are those who “almost joined”… :)

Response by PO3 Larry Clark made Jul 20 at 2023 3:41 PM

PO3 Larry Clark — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:41:43 -0400

No sir. It is true there are radicals on the right but they are few and are far out numbered by the radicals on the left.

Response by SGT Peter Anello made Jul 20 at 2023 4:42 PM

SGT Peter Anello — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 16:42:00 -0400

A true threat to our country is the left. Antifa, Black Lives Matter and the liberal elites and the media. The veteran community, as a whole is aghast at the current conditions of our country. We took an oath to defend it against foreign and domestic enemies, and there are more domestic enemies in the USA today then there are foreign threats. We have a two-tiered justice system that if you are a Democrat and a liberal, do you have one standard and if you’re conservative and a republican, there’s another standard. This article is just blowing smoke to try to stir up the left to be more anti-military, then what they already are.

Response by MAJ James Fitzgerald made Jul 20 at 2023 5:12 PM

MAJ James Fitzgerald — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:12:03 -0400

Sometimes what we think is true or we believe is true becomes fact. That is especially true on social media. Some will read something that has been stated on social media, and without any verification share it with good intentions, but only to find out it wasn't true, yet some who read it never learn that it wasn't true. I think that is something we all want to avoid.

We have individuals that were influenced to participate in J6 that were military veterans or currently in uniform. I would suggest that many of them would not have gone that way on most days. Some who were accused were found not guilty and some were found guilty, some with lesser charges and some for insurrection. Regardless of your view of J6 being good or bad, it was not a day that I think historians will view positively, but that is just MHO. I could be completely wrong.

The real reason I am writing this post is to share with those who are interested that there is a site I used to evaluate media outlets. It is MediaBiasFactCheck.com. Some of the media outlets will be just the opposite of what you might think would be true, and that is true on both the Left and Right. It will tell you a lot of things about their reporting, especially accuracy. I use it to help me determine who seems to be reporting accurately and who may not be accurate, or so biased that accuracy is secondary to the agenda, which we hear so much about.

I hope those who are interested will find this site to be of value. It has been for me, a person who has little to no interest in political parties, although I once did. I think I stopped having interest when I started paying close attention to what they did versus what they said. Save a few, very high profile subjects, I found they were not that much different on either side when it was all said and done. I clearly realize that many will disagree with that view. I respect every person's view, regardless of whether I can agree with it or not.

Response by SSG Walker Harris made Jul 20 at 2023 5:47 PM

SSG Walker Harris — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:47:01 -0400

sounds like drivel from a "RADICALIZED" liberal, socialist left that doesn't understand how the world really works.

Response by SFC Eileen Miller made Jul 20 at 2023 8:17 PM

SFC Eileen Miller — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 20:17:41 -0400

As long as we let one side define terms like "extremist" (which they use to refer to anyone who doesn't cowtow to their twisted world view), we lose the battle. They like to throw labels around in an attempt to scare people into shutting up. Things like patriotism, Americanism and nationalism are now considered radical and dangerous to people who want to control the population... and I pray to God that we are that threat that keeps them from destroying our Republic.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 21 at 2023 2:31 AM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Fri, 21 Jul 2023 02:31:01 -0400

Not nearly as much as Radicalized Social Justice Warriors and WOKE politicians.

Response by MSG Thomas Currie made Jul 21 at 2023 12:21 PM

MSG Thomas Currie — Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:21:43 -0400

If you want to see Radicalized Military Vets...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Be sure to read far enough to note the names of the military heroes who routed the protestors.

Bonus Army - Wikipedia

Response by SPC Kent Laughlin made Jul 21 at 2023 2:15 PM

SPC Kent Laughlin — Fri, 21 Jul 2023 14:15:22 -0400

more indoctrination from the communists, and they will be working up to a frothy conclusion as they know what they are afraid of and that is Real Americans that will reach a point where they will see the need to eliminate the communist infection .... completely

Response by SSG Rob Lawrence made Jul 21 at 2023 4:09 PM

SSG Rob Lawrence — Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:09:21 -0400

Like any human organization, the United States military has some bad apples in it’s group. The military needs to constantly monitor the individuals within it’s group to weed out these bad apples. Nothing effects the effectiveness of a unit more then those who espouse ideas, thoughts and action that divide and threaten the cohesiveness of any unit. Uprooting the disruptive individuals in any unit isn’t wokeness, it’s sound policy in my view.

Response by SMSgt Willie Edney made Jul 23 at 2023 6:35 AM

SMSgt Willie Edney — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:35:38 -0400

I do believe that radicalized Vets are a danger. I always believe in FACTS FIRST. I don't need Evangelicals or conservatives to tell me what's right look at the big picture here Democracy and the Constitution and Rule of Law is in danger. I'm ashamed of my brothers in arms that fall for the Okey Doke. Don't fall for the Cult Leaders spreading vial mistruths. I spent 28 years in and I know facts from fiction. Thank You

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made Jul 23 at 2023 9:39 AM

SPC Vonnie Jones — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 09:39:43 -0400

I fond it hard to read the daily beast without raising an eyebrow, with that being said it hard to read articles and comments on this page that are clearly one-sided. Yes there are extremists in all groups, someone is always not happy with the Country that so many have giving their lives defending. I am an African American who worked in the city when black lives matters marched and when Jan 6th happened. I will say I have participated in hundreds of marches over the year, but January 6th turned out to be are tried to be a hostile take over .braking into the Capital was not the act of respect! It was act of extremists. Trying to change a vote that they did not Agee was was over the top, chanting hang Pence has alarming. No black lives MLM did not bring a confederate flag in the Capital.

Response by SGT Denise Winborne made Jul 23 at 2023 5:24 PM

SGT Denise Winborne — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 17:24:42 -0400

As an African American woman in Aviation in 2000, I know first hand how radicalized military personnel are. The only way to resolve the problem is to readily admit the problem exists. There is no false accusation here, instead there is the realization of no matter how problems like this are exposed, there will always be those in denial.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Jul 23 at 2023 6:32 PM

1SG James Kelly — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 18:32:13 -0400

No, just liberals.

Response by Lt Col Theo Dressler made Jul 23 at 2023 8:38 PM

Lt Col Theo Dressler — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 20:38:48 -0400

What I see is that we all took an oath to defend the constitution of the United States both foreign and domestic. IF a military veteran violates that oath by attempting to overthrow an election (with no proof other than their favored candidate lost) or supporting any group attempting to overthrow the government then that service member, active guard, reserve or retired is guilty of violating their oath and should be punished to the full extent of the law. We NEVER took an oath to protect and defend an individual person or group of individuals, elected or despot wannabes

Response by A1C Jj Birchard made Jul 24 at 2023 7:57 AM

A1C Jj Birchard — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 07:57:23 -0400

A hit piece, yes. But with guys like Mad Dog Flynn and other Mad dogs who believe that the oath we all took has a shelf life. That is a fact that can't be wished away. Peaceful protest yes, storming our capital NO! And when crimes go unpunished, see Flynn's pardon, it encourages more crime.

Response by Sgt Carlos Amador made Jul 24 at 2023 8:42 AM

Sgt Carlos Amador — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 08:42:01 -0400

Definitely wrong left wing BS

Response by MSG Steve Collier made Jul 25 at 2023 10:40 AM

MSG Steve Collier — Tue, 25 Jul 2023 10:40:44 -0400

I'm in that spectrum: my oath hasn't expired nor have I been relieved of my allegiance thereto... AMERICA must survive, the extremists won't save HER so that responsibility falls to me and those who feel as I do that this AMERICA will survive if the grassroots stand for this last bastion of FREEDOM on Earth.

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Aug 4 at 2023 2:50 PM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:50:20 -0400

Yes, because they express their support above all to an individual or personal ideology first and not to the Constitution which holds this country together.

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Aug 4 at 2023 2:56 PM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:56:57 -0400

Yes because they express their support for an individual or an ideology far above their support for the Constitution which holds this country together. The Constitution was not created for one group only but for all. When that one group tries to dictate the narrative to benefit them, that's how autocracies are created. No one is going to round up all vets. We are all here to support them in their mental health the best way we can. And Washington fought to break away from the monarchy, it seems many nowadays want to emplace a 1 family rule again.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Aug 5 at 2023 12:00 AM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Sat, 05 Aug 2023 00:00:38 -0400

If, instead of far-right, it were far-left...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2023 12:16 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Aug 2023 12:16:16 -0400

Radicalization of anyone is a threat to the nation. It’s just sad when it’s veterans doing it because we’re better than that. At least I used to think we were.

Response by SFC Barbara Layman made Aug 17 at 2023 12:07 PM

SFC Barbara Layman — Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:07:01 -0400

We can thank Janet Napolitano, former Secretary, Department of Homeland Security for this - primarily a myth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2021/01/25/twelve-years-before-capitol-riot-warning-right-wing-extremism-buried/ [login to see] /?gnt-cfr=1

A 2009 warning about right-wing extremism was engulfed by politics. There are signs it’s...

Then and now, politics in Washington and right-wing media spin push back against efforts to stamp out domestic terrorism and white supremacy.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2023 10:30 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 Aug 2023 10:30:10 -0400

Today’s writers can’t just report facts—they have to add hyperbole to every article. Journalism is dead.

Response by SPC Cheryl Orourke made Aug 22 at 2023 10:39 PM

SPC Cheryl Orourke — Tue, 22 Aug 2023 22:39:38 -0400

We are endangered by the far right who are radicalized by this dangerous cult. Extremely rare, if not impossible for a liberal, moderate, or libertarian to want to elect Nazis. My dad fought Nazis in WWII and he’d be furious that the US is now almost 50% fascist or Nazi, all the rest of us terrorized by orange Hitler.

Response by PO2 Stephen Cline made Sep 5 at 2023 5:01 PM

PO2 Stephen Cline — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 17:01:48 -0400

The problem with that question is just who are the Radicalize military Vets? From what I hear we are the radicalized, Those of us that still believe in God Country and our oaths to the same.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2023 7:32 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Sep 2023 19:32:49 -0400

I really was upset when we had this stand down right after January 6th. I remember I was still in the Army Reserve and I was working for the g357 of my one Star Command. You could tell that the Army was already compromised even though technically President Biden hadn't taken office yet. They discussed radicalism showing right wing examples on our dot Mill that was sent from some G2 source of the Army Reserve. It didn't consider anything that happened in 2020 that related to left-wing extremism. I'm specifically talking about black lives matter which we now know is more like the black lying Marxist types that hit up people for money just to buy homes all over the country and a former Communist Party headquarters in canada. They only cared about blacks that were killed by white police officers. They didn't care about black on black murder. They also didn't care about black people who were killed by other black people because of the Anarchy and their businesses being destroyed after the excuse of the George Floyd murder. I brought this up. My G3 actual was not there for this meeting of the staff in the three section. But I didn't care and I didn't care if some left-wing feel great officer for flag officer was going to get mad at me for stating the obvious. But 900 pound gorilla in the room was that we really didn't see any right-wing extremism but in this case 2020 was mostly the what I call the pussy anti-fascist closet fascist type. Sure, January 6th and but it wasn't a coup like anything I had seen before. It wasn't like a coup in Thailand where the military takes over the country. It wasn't like a coup in Turkey. Nobody took over a TV or radio stations, no military units had an Insurrection and blocked roads leading to Washington dc. Let's not forget that Nancy Pelosi and her Sergeant arms refused president Trump's request for true on the ground before the insurrection. But they overcompensated like an idiot and put troops on the ground with no Mission and no threats just trying to look good. Let's not forget that we now know that the people who could have made the decision such as the adjutant general of Washington DC and other military leaders were afraid of the Optics so now it bit them in the butt or how you would say in the Army it hit them in the 5th point of contact so they tried to make scapegoats and you have people on this medium that blame all Republicans and put them in the same category as the neo-nazis of northern Idaho Ruby Ridge types.

Notice that before Kamala Harris became our absent-minded vice president she was sponsoring money to get people out of jail that were arrested for rioting during the summer of Anarchy that stupid CNN called mostly peaceful.

I think there are more transgender people than there are actual neo-nazis. Thanks to Sergeant First Class Davis showed us that the Rand corporation which stands for research and development did a study found out that there are a lot more extreme leftist types than there are extreme right wing types. Yet some people here on Rally Point consider all Republicans no matter how level-headed they are, the same as the Illinois Nazis that you see in The Blues Brothers movie.

With all the indictments going against former president Trump and how is civil rights are being violated, do you see armed mobs and Insurrection in the street? The left will make you think that so you vote for them again so they can continue to destroy the United States from within.

https://huffman.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/capitol-police-chief-sought-dc-national-guard-help-before-riotsbut-was-denied-by-supervisors-report

Capitol Police chief sought DC National Guard help before riots—but was denied by supervisors:...

The Official U.S. Congressional website of Congressman Jared Huffman

Response by CPO Roger Barnstead made Sep 6 at 2023 8:55 PM

CPO Roger Barnstead — Wed, 06 Sep 2023 20:55:39 -0400

woke military vets should be fitted with shock collars and woke civilians given the single digit salute!

Response by SPC Randy Torgerson made Sep 7 at 2023 8:35 PM

SPC Randy Torgerson — Thu, 07 Sep 2023 20:35:14 -0400

I believe the "radicalized non-vets" are a far more extreme threat.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2023 4:44 AM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 16 Sep 2023 04:44:03 -0400

It appears to me that only veterans still hold true to the oath we took. To protect the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. And it seems to me the largest threat to the constitution is the leadership of the Democratic Party. And every thing they said would happen under a second term of president Trump has happened under President. Biden. Wich is confusing to me. That is my personal opinion. Thanks to all my fellow veterans for your commitment and Service to a wonderful great nation.

Response by Sgt James Biear made Sep 17 at 2023 7:00 AM

Sgt James Biear — Sun, 17 Sep 2023 07:00:32 -0400

I believe “writing like The Daily Beast did, spurs fear and concern, but no one has actually looked at the numbers."

Response by SFC Jim Freshour made Sep 17 at 2023 5:22 PM

SFC Jim Freshour — Sun, 17 Sep 2023 17:22:17 -0400

Considering the source radicalized military vet is a complete myth. Guarantee the author never served a day and probably flies a rainbow and blm flag before an American flag.

Response by Col Dan Ketter made Sep 17 at 2023 7:23 PM

Col Dan Ketter — Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:23:00 -0400

Just more of the Joe Biden rhetoric

Response by SGT Mary G. made Sep 17 at 2023 8:07 PM

SGT Mary G. — Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:07:16 -0400

I think all "radicalized" extremist people are a potential threat to themselves and everyone else.
However, precisely what "radicalized" is intended to mean in reference to veterans would certainly needs to be clearly explained. Simply because someone labels someone in that way, does not make it so. Active duty, Reserve, Guard, IRR - radicalized extremists? The unit would know about that and be handling it. Right?
"Radicalized" suggests it is something that was done to someone (e.g. persuaded/manipulated/"brain washed"/propagandized . . .) So exactly what was done and who is responsible for the radicalizing would be as much or more of a threat.
The article speaks of social media "fueling soldiers’ attraction to these groups". I am not convinced veterans are attracted to extremist groups BECAUSE they were soldiers who were influenced by social media. Few people are actually naive enough, or ignorant enough to NOT realize most social media is full of miscreants, foreign and domestic, with a divide and conquer mentality, who are trying to stir up trouble.

Response by PO3 Michael MacKay made Sep 17 at 2023 9:15 PM

PO3 Michael MacKay — Sun, 17 Sep 2023 21:15:36 -0400

This is just more of the poisonous rhetoric from the far left that seeks the destruction of everything American and everything that is free about this nation. An asinine suggestion that people so dedicated to defending the founding principals and articles of this country could be considered "a threat" to the country...well, maybe a threat to terrorist and traitorous entities within the far left as what they seek is dissolution of the constitutional rights, yes, I would state unequivocally we are a threat to enemies of the constitution. Don't be an enemy then there is no threat.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Sep 19 at 2023 4:35 AM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 04:35:07 -0400

I fee that most Military people are very tolerant and fully understand the concepts of Freedom which they serve to protect. To find extreme right positions isn't very common at all and there may well be other issues perhaps even mental health. Most Military members not only work well as part of a team but also understand how important a proper bearing and public image is the service as a whole. Public displays that get out of control not only reflect on that remember the service they represent and most of us know better than to engage in those sort of activities. It's not that You can't have Your own opinion by extremism Left or Right is dangerous and contrary to proper military conduct. I don't buy the concept at all that very many military members have been involved in that sort of conduct and are very carful abut what they express outside the service.

Response by MSgt Eric Amidon made Sep 19 at 2023 11:59 AM

MSgt Eric Amidon — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:59:53 -0400

I believe it's funny that there are ever only conversations around "right-wing extremists" and that the left-wing liberals who have taken over all the services are allowed free reign.

Response by Sgt Michael Caliendo made Sep 19 at 2023 3:27 PM

Sgt Michael Caliendo — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:27:55 -0400

Not a chance. They have their point of view, and the 1st and 2nd Amendment protects that right. Why don't people ask why free speech is the very 1st amendment, and right to bear arms, the 2nd. It it so when you speak out against the government, they cannot squash your voice. Guns are so we can take are government back against Marxist and Socialist any presidential administration that threatens our rights. The right to bear arms has nothing to do with hunting. It is about regular citizens having the same weapons as the government. Note it does not say guns, it says arms. Arms included a whole lot more than guns.

Response by SSG Douglas Shaffer made Sep 20 at 2023 3:20 AM

SSG Douglas Shaffer — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 03:20:25 -0400

I couldn't read the article without them wanting me to pay for it. In all it is a bunch of BS. We all know the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and we all took an oath to protect this county and those documents. It didn't matter while in service as to what side of the fence you're on politically and it doesn't matter now, all we need to know is who has your back because bullets don't care what you believe in. What matters is the person left and right of you and supporting the Constitution.

We all know our civics as to how our voting system works. We all know that both parties conduct the voting process together. both D and R's (Sounds like a government branch) watching over everything day and night as the voting process continues. from the local county polling station all the way up to the Capital both parties are watching over the votes. So, if anyone still believe the election was stolen then they would have to believe that Party of R was in on it.
We all know that the Constitution stated we are all equal.

Many White supremist haven't served in the service, a few might have but how many were riffed out due to their own behavior I.E. Art 15's, not able to conform to military life, went to the Puzzle House with in the first year of service. They are all like a bunch paintball and airsoft Wanta bees. Where many members are members of "Meal Team Six"

If they really were White Supremist in all aspects, then they all should have supported abortions right and support Roe v. Wade. Why because many believe in race replacement theory that the minorities are going to replace the white man. Well, if most abortions were happening in low-income minority groups and population areas and not supporting the ability to have abortions is like a self-fulfilling prophesy!

The Bible tells us, if our brother is hungry to feed him, if he is without cloths cloth him, even if he doesn't speak the same language or is from a different country. So why are so many white supremist claiming to be or declaring that they are of Christianity. When their actions and behavior clearly show they are not. They are bastardizing Christianity into an abomination to support their own hatred.

If we are standing next to a school when at that moment a school shooting begins, we would be the first to run in to save lives not caring or knowing who's lives we would be saving. We all reach out to those in their time of need to help them, that is what we do.

So again, the radicalizing of Veterans into such groups is totally BS.

Response by SSG Donald Bramley made Sep 20 at 2023 8:02 PM

SSG Donald Bramley — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:02:15 -0400

I say YES a radicalized vet is a real threat to the security and not a model for our youths and the country.

Response by PO3 Nicholas Przybyla made Sep 21 at 2023 1:31 AM

PO3 Nicholas Przybyla — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 01:31:05 -0400

Good luck rounding us up

Response by SP5 Edward Klee made Sep 21 at 2023 6:41 AM

SP5 Edward Klee — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 06:41:56 -0400

People fear what they dont understand.. not understanding creates anger and more fear.. Our lack of Confidence and lazyness is destroying everything ( do you grow perennias and biennial...trees, shrubs and plants that are medicinal or edible, in your hardiness zone? Are you studing anatomy, emotionalIntelligence,
philosophy, MindfulnessMeditation, Herbalismand Kung-fu or self defense, oror basic survival? ). And thats why were easily mislead by the liars..Evil Prospers, when good people do nothing...seems everyone is either too passive or too aggressive..We need accountability at our local representatives... And Vote out everyone who lies , steals manipulates or murder... or just cant say No...What people fail to see is that were searching to make adjustments to improve, not try and control and micro manage..or make it worse..

Response by CMSgt Gary Fichman made Sep 21 at 2023 11:33 AM

CMSgt Gary Fichman — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:33:46 -0400

Well we did all swear to" support and defend the Consititution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic... ". I am seeing direct challenges to that document, but so far I feel the system in intact (checks and balances) . The question is when and how to intervene.

Response by SP5 Keith Phillips made Sep 21 at 2023 11:37 AM

SP5 Keith Phillips — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:37:35 -0400

I don't believe everything printed or online, common Sense goes a long way

Response by SGT Walt Pozgay made Sep 21 at 2023 2:41 PM

SGT Walt Pozgay — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 14:41:01 -0400

I think veterans represent a cross-section of the American population and therefore, are just as likely as the population to provide members of hate groups. Many of the vets I know are quite liberal and find these hate groups to be abhorrent and against the core beliefs of the military, regardless of branch. The Wannabees make the veteran community look bad.

Response by SGT Louis Perrault made Sep 21 at 2023 6:27 PM

SGT Louis Perrault — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 18:27:03 -0400

It depends on what you consider "radicalized " every ABC, MSN, msnbc consider anyone who defends thier rights are radicalized. The government thinks if you don't support DEI, OR ⁷CRT you are radicalized...so

Response by SGT Louis Perrault made Sep 21 at 2023 6:28 PM

SGT Louis Perrault — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 18:28:55 -0400

I almost forgot...if the Government , and people from BLM don't like facts or the truth, you are the enemy

Response by SGT Victor Negrete made Sep 22 at 2023 5:19 PM

SGT Victor Negrete — Fri, 22 Sep 2023 17:19:53 -0400

TO MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE FRINGE.

Response by SGT Damaso V Santana made Sep 22 at 2023 11:19 PM

SGT Damaso V Santana — Fri, 22 Sep 2023 23:19:46 -0400

I see it quite clearly, it is called fear which those who destroy from within suffer from. They know Veterans uphold the Oath, Veterans are not the "Useful Fools" or the brigades of indoctrinated bots.
These progressives will attack and vilify anyone who does not share their hateful ideology.

Response by SSgt Mary Dungan made Sep 23 at 2023 8:17 PM

SSgt Mary Dungan — Sat, 23 Sep 2023 20:17:28 -0400

There is a problem in our military and veteran population with radicalism. Just look at January 6th. I am ashamed at how many vets and active duty persons involved themselves in an insurrection. It's not the left that is the problem. It's those who so easily fall prey to propaganda and don't think for themselves who spit on the oath they took.

Response by LCpl Michael Oconnell made Sep 23 at 2023 10:46 PM

LCpl Michael Oconnell — Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:46:59 -0400

Negative they are a threat to the "Hostile Takeover of the United States "by the Marxist, socialist, communist,democrat Party. And they know it !

Response by SSG Bob Robertson made Sep 24 at 2023 9:27 AM

SSG Bob Robertson — Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:27:44 -0400

Radicalized veterans are going to be the true saviors of this republic. Who is going to stand up for it? John who wants to be called Susie? I think not.

Response by PO3 Barney Baty made Sep 24 at 2023 11:18 AM

PO3 Barney Baty — Sun, 24 Sep 2023 11:18:37 -0400

I'm a moderate, that doesn't belong to any party. I believe that the left is trying to destroy my Christian beliefs and family values and the right is justified in its push-back and the left should be arrested for some of the things they are doing.

Response by SSgt Heather Capra made Sep 24 at 2023 10:41 PM

SSgt Heather Capra — Sun, 24 Sep 2023 22:41:27 -0400

Disagree. Your beliefs are not mentioned in the Dailybeast article. You have created a narrative and falsely correlated it to this article that evidently hit a nerve with you.

George Washington was to many a terrible person. He was a traitor to his nation, he killed his own countrymen, he inflicted grotesque violence on his enemies, he committed/endorsed genocide against the native populations and harnessed resources gained from his own familial wealth and power to create a system he envisioned was best. So yes he was radicalized, progressive, liberal, non-conformist Veteran. It always amazes me that that some people equate our founders as traditionalist, conservative aka "republican party-like" when in reality they were not. And the nation he lead to create was an imperfect one to be sure as we his legacy have been working to improve upon it since. And that is where the difference lies between the American Veteran who stands to improve upon George Washington's mission and those that have become radicalized with the intent to create a downfall of our nation to create either a new one or independent city-states that are not under federal authority.

So no the Dailybeast gave no indication of rounding up Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics and mothers disagreeing with school boards as if they were to be as disposed as the Gypsies and the Jews were in Germany in 1939.

The article says....to paraphrase... we all need to be aware of the very real intent and actions of white nationalist hate groups targeting veterans who are brought in under the guise of protecting the nation, camaraderie, and similar good ideals to then be manipulated and used for the agendas that hurt our nation such as attacking our very own Capitol.

Response by LTC David Howard made Sep 25 at 2023 8:41 AM

LTC David Howard — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:41:07 -0400

Today it does not take much to be labeled by the Far Left as a dangerous right wing fanatic, or similar insulting labels. If you voted for Trump, if you believe that there are only two genders, if you oppose open borders, and on and on. Those that support the Far Left are far less inclined to feel the call of patriotism, if they feel it at all. In their view, much of the military is suspect even in the best of times. Personally I would be suspicious of anyone that gave any credence or respect to the Daily Beast, the NY Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, CBS or ABC among others.

Response by SSgt Mark Corgey made Sep 25 at 2023 8:23 PM

SSgt Mark Corgey — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:23:50 -0400

The ARTICLE is fubar.

Response by SGT James Hunsinger made Sep 27 at 2023 4:52 PM

SGT James Hunsinger — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:52:58 -0400

I took an oath to defend this nation and our constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Lately I have seen a lot of what I would call domestic enemies of the constitution running this country into the ground. I believe they need to be fought tooth and nail. If that makes me "radical" so be it. If being a patriot is radical, so be it. If being a proud Christian is radical, so be it. If not toeing the radical Leftist line is radical, so be it. If not falling into the mob mentality and the group think is radical, so be it. If deciding you are not going to allow your town, community, county or state to fall to failed radical Leftist policies and demands is radical and extremist, then look no further. Here I am, unashamed, undaunted, unafraid and unapologetic.

Leftism is a scourge on our society and all it has ever stood for. If you don't like America then you have the freedoms to leave to whatever global destination serves your purposes...Bye! If you think you are going to drive me into submission you are really in for some radical opposition.

If all that makes me a radical threat to the nation then your thought process is flawed and you don't belong here in the country where those attitudes, ideologies, values and beliefs have kept this country strong until the blight of radical Leftism infected our society. Radical, rabid Leftism is the threat to the society and this nation we have had and requires no fundamental changes. Yes, I will fight it tooth and nail. If that's radical and a threat to this nation I guess I'm your man and really don't care what anyone else thinks about my position.

I took an oath and I meant every word of it. It wasn't just words spoken to get a job like padding a resume like some veterans I have met.

Response by SPC Max Waller made Oct 1 at 2023 9:34 PM

SPC Max Waller — Sun, 01 Oct 2023 21:34:22 -0400

it is on a case by case - try to be fully aware of how their views and interpretations might have changed - the religions all have verifiable and verified histories of hypocrisies and contradictions - i used to believe that the world needed to become Roman Catholic that i currently am

Response by SSG William Hommel made Oct 2 at 2023 8:05 AM

SSG William Hommel — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 08:05:48 -0400

Folks can be radicalized regardless of veteran status. I call BS on this. And anyway they are far less a threat than the party of grooming who have been brainwashing our children across the country.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Oct 2 at 2023 12:23 PM

MSgt J D McKee — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:23:11 -0400

This article is written by the same mindset of people who believe that speech can be violence, that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi, that 1.5 percent of the population should wag the dog, that people born men can be women while keeping their penis, and that it is just fine to welcome in everyone who hates us but wants to be like us and offer them free college.

The problem with us is that no one has the guts to stand up for normalcy, because the effects on our jobs/work/lives can be so devastating. Me neither, I have to admit. If I were still active duty, I wouldn't have the balls to be on rallypoint for fear a drunken post might end my career. Even this one, and I am posting quite sober.

I'm sure the British considered everyone who signed the Constitution and the entire Continental Congress and Continental Army to be "radicalized military vets".

Where are our leaders? Patton would never make General now, Chesty Puller would get "cancelled", Congress would refuse to confirm Curtis LeMay, that's where they are, they never get the rank to BE leaders.

I am actually em bare assed for the rest of the world to see how foolish we have become.

I don't have an answer. I hope someone does but it doesn't seem likely.

Response by TSgt Lloyd Estes made Oct 6 at 2023 10:44 AM

TSgt Lloyd Estes — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:44:52 -0400

They may have some correct ideas and beliefs but the way they support and portray them is comparable to terrorist and criminals who support lawlessness.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Oct 23 at 2023 12:41 AM

SSG Shawn Mcfadden — Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:41:02 -0400

They could be. If they follow idiots like trump. Look what took place during Jan 6.

Response by SGT Al Mount made Oct 23 at 2023 1:52 PM

SGT Al Mount — Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:52:48 -0400

The current criminal administration (Biden)
would drive any sane US Vet into being "radicalized" because of the way they are destroying our Narion
Grrrrrrr

Response by SSG Michael Doolittle made Oct 24 at 2023 4:11 AM

SSG Michael Doolittle — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 04:11:04 -0400

Anyone who violates their oath or supports an overthrow of our Constitutional Democracy is a threat to our Nation. They are NOT PATRIOTS

Response by TSgt Daniel Newman made Oct 24 at 2023 9:39 AM

TSgt Daniel Newman — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:39:00 -0400

What would be nice is if they would shut down useless incompetent, lying websites that peddle bullshit like the daily beast. What is astonishing to me that the joint chiefs of staff with all of them ribbons and dedication to "Themselves". Where are they with the invasion thru our borders! 1000 gotaways a day in the month of October! That they don't have this buffoon in a choke hold.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Oct 24 at 2023 11:02 AM

SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:02:02 -0400

THERE IS A POINT IN YOUR LIFE, WHEN YOU SERVE IN THE MILITARY YOU UNDERSTAND THE TRUE MEANING OF BEING A PATRIOT. IN THE LAST FEW YEARS OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN COMING TO LIGHT, MEANING A LOT THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING FOR OUR FREEDOM AND STANDING UP FOR OUR COUNTRY HAS ALL BEEEN LIES, FROM OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TO MAJOR EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN OUR PAST. IE. JFK, 911 AND ALL THESE MISSING CHILDREN.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND A GROUP (LARGE AMOUNT OF VETREANS ARE STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT) BECAUSE IF WE DO NOT WE WILL END UP LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES, WHERE EVERYTHIN G AND THE PEOPLE ARE CONTROLLED.

ALL I CAN SAY IS HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A BLACK AMERICAN FLAG BACKWARDS? DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING ?

I AM SURE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LET SOMEONE COME INTO YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND REMOVE YOUR FAMILY AND THE THINGS YOU HAVE WORKED VERY HARD FOR AND STOOD FOR WHILE YOU SERVED.

I THINK TODAY ALOT OF VETS LOOK BACK AND ASK THEMSELVES WHY THEY EVEN SERVED AND SAW FRIEMDS DIED ON THE BATTLE FIELD FOR THE WOKE CRAP THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TOO.

WAKE UP BECAUSE IT IS JUST STARTING TO GET GOOD.

IF I HAD IT MY WAY I WOU.D CREAT ANOTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT OR PARTY. PATRIOT PARTY.

SAM00754

Response by PO1 Sanford Snyder made Oct 25 at 2023 11:53 AM

PO1 Sanford Snyder — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 11:53:32 -0400

As in all cases, consider the source, and follow the money. This trope has been around for a long time. Napolitano said it during Obamas administration. Yet when push comes to shove, we all know who will stand, and who will fold. They fear us because they can not control us.

Response by Sgt Gregg Stavros made Oct 25 at 2023 2:22 PM

Sgt Gregg Stavros — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 14:22:17 -0400

The only radicalized ones are the woke ones.

Response by SPC Thomas Bourland made Oct 26 at 2023 4:59 PM

SPC Thomas Bourland — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 16:59:27 -0400

Monitored, the things that liberal leaning folks love the idea of until it is aimed in the direction of the left. have there been instances of radical types with military training ? yes there have been but it is not the norm. Does the army root out racism when it pops up from time to time. last I checked the answer was a yes. have other groups joined the military and continued to perform criminal acts... yup such as the gang members that were in the 3rd ACR at carson... the department of homeland security published a white paper that surmised that military trained men residing in rural areas were potential domestic terrorists. Most men I know that meets that description just want to be left alone. But you know how most talking heads in DC think, they are after all the F around and find out peeps.

Response by CPT Ian Stewart made Oct 27 at 2023 9:36 AM

CPT Ian Stewart — Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:36:17 -0400

I believe that the vast majority (99%) of military vets are decent, patriotic citizens who are very supportive of the country and the idea of America. If needed, I also believe they would happily put the uniform back on and do whatever was necessary to defend the US.
Having said that, I think radicalized vets COULD be a threat, not in their numbers, but in the fact that they could train radicalized non-vets. Because there are more non-vets engaged in these movements than actual veterans, a small number of vets could create a formidable force out of those who never served.

Response by SSG Scott Novak made Oct 28 at 2023 6:15 PM

SSG Scott Novak — Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:15:17 -0400

If being labeled a “radicalized veteran” because I believe in the constitution of the United States of America, I am a God fearing man, I KNOW that there are only 2 genders, I don’t trust the government nor the media, I believe the borders should be secured, and being a patriot makes me the “enemy” of the establishment, then I will wear that label proudly.

Response by LCpl Michael Cappello made Oct 29 at 2023 8:58 AM

LCpl Michael Cappello — Sun, 29 Oct 2023 08:58:15 -0400

Yes I do. I believe that every Radicalized (Atheist, Anti-God, Liberal, Progressive, Democratic Socialist, Socialist, Communist) veteran is a threat. They have been trained in weapons and tactics. They were sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and have thrown those vows away. Promoting ANY other form of government, advocating for any foreign national to enter our country ILLEGALLY, giving aid and succor to those same ILLEGAL migrants, ALL violates their oaths. They are, at the least, potential threats to this great nation. At the most, they are potential TRAITORS and ENEMIES OF THE STATE.

Response by 1SG Russell S. made Oct 29 at 2023 8:31 PM

1SG Russell S. — Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:31:17 -0400

No more so than vets that become liberal/socialist and vote.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2023 1:21 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Oct 2023 01:21:11 -0400

In 28 years of service I have never met, nor had in my supervision, any "radical" SM's whether KKK, BLM, ANTIFA etc. Maybe a few in Veteran Motorcycle Clubs where the only criteria is, well, you had to be a Veteran. The Daily Beast is a left wing gossip column.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Oct 30 at 2023 2:54 PM

SPC Brian Stephens — Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:54:40 -0400

NO. Radicalized liberals seem to be the ones who are behind the most mass shootings. But we are not supposed to acknowledge the obvious.

Response by 1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) made Oct 31 at 2023 10:21 AM

1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:21:01 -0400

The first thing we need to do is look at the articles author... Nick Schager is an Entertainment Critic for the Daily Beast. His responsibilities include: writing reviews, features, and interview and Q&A pieces about film, television, music and pop culture.
Next, we need to look at the publication "Daily Beast": There is a clear Left bias in news content published by The Daily Beast. In its politics section, it claims to be “non-partisan, but not neutral.”
In truth, they strongly align with liberal, progressive, or left-wing thought and/or policy agendas. Many stories display sensationalist tags, such as “Ok Boomer,” "Crashed Plane Behind D.C. Chaos Owned by Big-Time MAGA Donor Couple", “The Kentucky Miner Who Scammed Americans by Claiming He Was Hitler and Plotting a ‘Revolt’ With ‘Spaceships’,” and “No, Rudy: Trump Isn’t Othello. He’s Iago.” Their latest attack against our veteran community "The Chilling Threat of Radicalized U.S. Military Vets" is just another of their sensationalist tags...
The "Chilling Threat..." article by Schager is nothing more than an entertainment review of Charlie Sadoff’s documentary movie “Against All Enemies”. The documentary purports to investigate how white nationalist organizations go after soldiers and cops—and shows you why that’s so scary. However, despite the "Documentary" in its description, it is nothing more than a movie. And, like a lot of other documentary movies, it contains a smattering of truth thrown together with a lot of sensational sounding fiction. We should not consider Schager's article to be anything other than a barely readable mishmash of sensational sounding propaganda. It's meant to demean our veteran community and spread meaningless discourse about a subject the author know nothing about!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2023 11:52 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:52:54 -0400

The following quotes are taken from a Rand article.
Here's the link to this article: https://www.rand.org/news/press/2023/05/23.html.

"Support among military veterans for extremist groups and extremist ideals appears similar to or less than levels seen among the U.S. public in general, despite fears that it could be higher, according to a new RAND Corporation report."

"Concern that the veteran community is at increased risk of radicalization to violent extremism has increased since reports that a significant proportion of the people who attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, were currently or had been affiliated with the U.S. military."

Certainly reading comments at this website is NOT in any way "research." However, my take on having read many, many posts on RallyPoint is that there are veterans and retirees who use inflammatory rhetoric, particularly when making statements that are conclusions rather than posting facts that warrant conclusions.

From my reading of website members' comments, posts that intend to arouse angry or violent feelings come more from the political right than from the political left. Perhaps administrators have a capability to determine if my reading of posts is accurate. . . .

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Response by 1LT Larry Bass made Oct 31 at 2023 8:03 PM

1LT Larry Bass — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 20:03:17 -0400

My oath has not expired. We have domestic enemies in charge (via a selection - not an election) and at some point the politicians we did vote in have to address the elephant in the room. The Founders gave us the 2A for a reason. WHEN are we going to deploy it? Yep, call me whatever you want. I was in DC on J6 and just for being there (not on Capitol grounds) I was forced into an FB-eye interview. I call BS. I'm a deplorable Christian Patriot, unjabbed, white, heterosexual, alpha MALE with a Biblical Worldview. GET OVER IT! Repent or die lost, you heathens! [John 3:3]

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2023 1:24 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 01:24:49 -0400

Only those radicalized by imams like MAJ Hussein's at Ft. Hood (5th of November, '09) or by the post-Marxist bolsheviks of the Left. Most people who talk about "radicals" and "right-wing extremism" don't know what they're talking about and are just regurgitating bullet points from CNN, The View, the Washington Post, or one of our other American versions of Pravda-from-Wish-dot-Com.

Response by SN Sylvan Tieger made Nov 2 at 2023 11:20 AM

SN Sylvan Tieger — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:20:11 -0400

What was "Right" 30 years ago is wrong today. What was wrong 30 years ago is right today.
The war on drugs such as pot is now legalized.

Hating this country is now the new way colleges are telling the brain-dead students.

Running off to Canada during the Vietnam "conflict" to avoid the draft was wrong, allowing these cowards back into the USA is "right."

Giving aid to invaders who sneak into America waving flags of other countries was called an invasion now it is called asylum seekers.

Defund the police is right and allowing savages to enter a store and smash windows and grab everything in sight is ok according to libertards.

A man following a little girl into the rest room is ok if he says he feels he is a woman.

Males can compete in womans sports taking away scholarships that would normally be given to "birthing people."

The new military asks the recruits if they are happy?

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Nov 5 at 2023 1:00 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 13:00:26 -0500

Not really sure how to answer this question. I do know, however, that Radicalized Military Vets do exist, as well as Radicalized Military Servicemembers. And yes, domestic terroists of all kinds recruit from the military. The numbers are not as high as some people believe, though. I've seen some units that will have a squad+ of troops in that category while you'd be lucky (or unlucky) to find one in a different brigade on the same post. It is very subjective because you still have to figure out "what meets the threshhold for radicalized." The answer won't be the same from one command team to the next. One command team may sound the alarm like, "HOLY F---! We got a g--damn terrorist in our unit! Get the MPs! We gotta roll him/her outta her NOW!" And another command team may dismiss the individual and their actions or appearance as some kind of misguided ideology, but not an actual threat to good order & discipline and the nation's security. To me, this is where good leaders (and especially good NCOs) come in. Good leadership would be able to identify potential snakes in the grass and attend to them properly instead of passing them on to someone else become THEIR problem or encouraging their behavior...which is what I've seen leaders do. The passing them off or encouraging their BS, I mean. Moreover, you also have to consider the ones who were more than likely radical BEFORE they went to BCT or boot camp. Those snakes exist, too. And they infiltrate the ranks more than people want to believe.

Response by LCpl Jeff Moore made Nov 22 at 2023 1:38 PM

LCpl Jeff Moore — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:38:06 -0500

I due believe that the cartel, sovereign citizens nutjobs, white supremacist and other groups are joining the military for training and insight. I think military members are just as likely to become radicalized as anyone else. I mean the guy that shot the court Marshall deputy in Portland was a vet Timothy McVeigh was a vet. The problem is the hard core Bible thumper tend to join the military more then the radical left. So vets tend to appear more in right wing groups

Response by SPC Michael Johnson made Nov 22 at 2023 6:47 PM

SPC Michael Johnson — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 18:47:01 -0500

This depends upon your definition of radicalized!! If a veteran still holds to the oath they took to defend the constitution of this country against all enemies foreign or domestic and to follow lawful order that align with the constitution it is my opinion that this is not a radicalized individual

Response by SSG Johan Gomez made Nov 22 at 2023 7:31 PM

SSG Johan Gomez — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:31:40 -0500

Trash editorial from a trash organization

Response by SFC James Eagle made Nov 23 at 2023 9:46 AM

SFC James Eagle — Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:46:28 -0500

Anyone that has seen the newly released video's of what actually took place now should understand that there was no insurrection/riote. It was a peaceful demonstration until the police, without provocation, started assaulting the demonstrators with tear gas and paint balls. We also know, as demonstrated in the video's, that demonstrators were not just let into the build by police they were guided in by them. We also know that the only person that was killed during the 9/11 demonstration was a former 7 year unarmed female veteran. The shooting was unprovoked and the officer that shot her in cold blood has yet to be properly charged and prosecuted.
So what does this article amount to? It's nothing more than propaganda!

Response by PO2 Tom Hauser made Nov 23 at 2023 12:15 PM

PO2 Tom Hauser — Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:15:17 -0500

Today there is a great divide in our country - good vs. evil - EVIL being the Progressive Democrat political base which is represented in Congress and by its voting constituencies that consist of Socialists, Marxists, Communists, Fascists, Islamic Jihadist supporters, secular humanist, secular liberals, domestic terrorist groups (ANTIFA/BLM/Pro-Hamas), Antisemitics, religious apostate/liberal/heretic Judaism-Protestantism-Catholicism, Progressive Democrat sycophant "Fake News" media propagandists, New World Order, WEF, UN, WHO, CDC, Biden's politicized & weaponized corrupt FBI-DOJ-CIA (that engaged in sedition-treason-political coup of POTUS Trump), Deep State, Open Border, RINO's, NAACP, ACLU, ADL, Planned Parenthood, Cartel-Human/Narcotics/Sex Trafficker Smugglers, supporters of CRT-DEI-BDS-ESG-WOKE-Cancel Culture-LGBTQ-Abortion & replacing the Constitution with Sharia Law, WOKE corporate America, OTM Illegal Aliens, CCP, and those laying the groundwork for the rule of the Anti-Christ, etc. Opposed to these hate America, hate the rule of law, hate Jews & hate Israel, hate Christians, hate the Constitution, hate White people, hate the Unborn, hate the Tanakh-Holy Bible-Talmud, etc. are those Conservatives, Independents, GOP Republicans (not the RINO's), Evangelicals, pro-Israel & Zion Conservative Jews, military veterans, law enforcement, pro-Constitution, pro-Freedom & Liberty Americans that have come to realize that (like the IDF) until we kill or defeat in elections (provided they are not rigged like the 2020 election) these Progressive Democrat terrorist assholes & their constituencies (like Israel's terrorist enemies Hamas & Hezbollah) that are threatening the peace & our nation and its security there will be no peace. So, these Daily Beast & RAND Corporation assholes correctly know that we have the training, we have the experience, we have killed before & will pull the trigger, we have the motivation, we have the weapons to destroy their ultimate goal which is the destruction of America replaced by an Authoritarian, Dystopian Society bereft of reason and freedom ruled by dictatorial regime that imprisons and murders (like Seth Rich/Andrew Breitbart/Justice Scalia) dissidents like those hunted down and imprisoned for lawful protest on January 6th which is why these Progressive Democrats & RINO's did not want you to see the thousands of hours of the Pelosi/DOJ/FBI/Paid Contractors FALSE FLAG January 6th videos. You have a choice America's military and veterans - choose wisely.

Response by COL Carl Jensen made Nov 23 at 2023 4:07 PM

COL Carl Jensen — Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:07:02 -0500

We as active military and veteran personnel are the defenders of a Nation not a Party and the politicians know that. There are renegades on both sides of the aisle. Its the military's job to secure the domestic tranquility. You are not a radical unless your goal is to take total control, i.e. as a one party government. I am sure there are people in our Government who would love "Total" control, but our system makes that difficult. They are the same people who are against a real organized militias, and believe civilians should not possess of weapons. If you are for the country, the multiple party system and the constitution you are still a patriot, and you can go and kick the asses of those too far right or left. You won't destroy America, you will be cleaning it up. Besides, if the shit hits the fan from either direction, your veteran expertise will be required. We as vets, only want a fair and balanced America. We kept it safe until now and we can still keep it safe for all of us. I am sure the only thing everyone wants is: "Leave us alone and stay out of our lives." IMO, That is also the answer to world peace. Sorry folks, I have to deal with a 84 yr old mind now.

Response by SSG William Bighouse made Nov 23 at 2023 5:18 PM

SSG William Bighouse — Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:18:26 -0500

The Daily Beast is a left leaning tabloid at best. We’re not radicalized, we’re generally more educated, and tend to be guided by Faith, Family, God, & Country. We’re less likely to flip-flop on issues, we have a moral compass, and we exercise this, and they don’t like it, we are also the well regulated militia, more likely to own firearms, we follow the law, and expect our leaders to follow the law. If this is radicalization, color me wrong.

Response by SP5 Wick Humble made Nov 23 at 2023 6:35 PM

SP5 Wick Humble — Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:35:35 -0500

I'd say that it isn't certain citizens voting a certain way that makes them radicalized; how you vote is your choice, for whatever reason you choose. It could just be the fact that certain citizens might take non-democratic actions -- such as armed insurrection or other violent, illegal acts -- that worries many Americans. My principal concern would not center around vets of any stripe but of serving servicepeople, and their reaction. And frankly I am not seriously worried that serving troops would behave badly or outside the strictures of legal orders or commands. I find myself trusting the joint command structure to do the right thing, and truly 'defend the Constitution'. This is a paradox, since I didn't feel so confident during the Vietnam conflict, etc. Times change, people mellow, I guess.

Response by SSgt Scotty Marks made Nov 24 at 2023 10:49 PM

SSgt Scotty Marks — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 22:49:50 -0500

Communist horseshit.

Response by SGT Walter Duncan made Nov 25 at 2023 1:40 PM

SGT Walter Duncan — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:40:05 -0500

i think any radicalized group can be extreme!! not everybody is easily swayed into thinking extreme! Undiagnosed mental health, cultural upbringing and emotional immaturity are subject to vary between people who lack insight into what's considered an acceptable norm of behavior in civilized society. Karens, incels, extreme religious interpretations, racial purity and other stupid nonsense like this will not change the world those people want.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2023 5:03 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:03:20 -0500

I have read the article you posted and have a few responses to your concerns.
1) Who cares what those Left Wing Socialist's write for that P.O.S. column?
2) Calling soldiers and police officers Neo-Nazi's is preposterous. If everyone was a Nazi's, the armed forces and law enforcement would already be in control of the country.
3) The general outrage of American's to the Oct 7 massacre in Israel is proof positive that we are not Nazi's.
4) The Daily Beast is frightened that patriotic Americans will undo their efforts to remake the nation into their Venezuelan model.
5) The Left Wing Socialists/Communists should be afraid. We will not let that happen.

Response by SGT Joseph Dutton made Nov 26 at 2023 12:39 AM

SGT Joseph Dutton — Sun, 26 Nov 2023 00:39:19 -0500

This is a hard question to answer. I will answer with my own thoughts. But however us Veterans has been marked as Domestic Terrorist by the far left and Democratic elected officials. There is two types of people who join the military, Patriots & Non-patriots. With in the military ranks the Patriots out way the non-patriots as a whole. Somehow the Patriots that leave the military on a good note (Honorable Discharge) somehow gets Radicalized from leftist groups by Brainwashing a individual by feeding lies to them. Just like the Cults do to intrap one into their thinking and their way of life. It is up to the individual to join the far left or not. This has been going on for over 227 years and not just here in the United States, but all over the World when the Romans created the military. I refer to them as Turncoats because they no longer belong in my Brother's and sister's in arms club. Good night my Brother's and Sister's. Stay Safe, Healthy and be aware of your surroundings.

Response by CPL Chris Palmberg made Nov 26 at 2023 12:52 PM

CPL Chris Palmberg — Sun, 26 Nov 2023 12:52:33 -0500

There is a morsel of truth to be found here. I have had the privilege of knowing people through my service who were encouraged by their respective inner-city community organizations to take advantage of their lack of a rap sheet to enlist as a way to gain training in tactics and firearms usage before returning after several months (for reserve components) or a few years (active duty) with valuable skills useful for less above-board enterprises. It stands to reason that modern nefarious organizations would still be doing the same...

Response by HN Nowlin Haltom made Nov 26 at 2023 5:01 PM

HN Nowlin Haltom — Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:01:43 -0500

yes

Response by SP6 Tim Hoover made Nov 27 at 2023 1:54 PM

SP6 Tim Hoover — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 13:54:00 -0500

I believe that new recruits make an easy target for extremist. But the real threat could come from veterans with combat experience and a bad attitude or gang affiliation. Most veterans that I know would support the military and their respective branches in defending America from a domestic threat. I physically can't serve, but I will always be prepared to defend this country, even if it means taking action against mis-guided Americans. I take my oath seriously until I die. Even threats for wanting to deny Trump the white house. I am a Marine, come find me if you don't like what I am saying!

Response by LCpl George Williams made Nov 27 at 2023 9:21 PM

LCpl George Williams — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:21:45 -0500

The far right is 1 step beyond modernism. I have seen moderates turn into extremist, and radicalist while stationed in the south. Being separated from the military, doesn't alter their extremism, if any thing, it makes them worse. Jan. 6 was a prime example of all levels of the far right. It exemplifies just how far these people are willing to go. Some were still active Mil. according to the media, and other reports.

Response by PO3 Shayne Seibert made Nov 30 at 2023 12:53 PM

PO3 Shayne Seibert — Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:53:09 -0500

I think that this is more fear driven than anything. There is nothing that the left fears than veterans who know strategy and weapons that they can't control. What does the left do to people that are dangerous and can't be controlled? Call them radicals.
It's all about language and how weak the left has become. They control the language. They control what defines that language. And above all, they fear what they can't control.

Response by CW2 Ernest Krutzsch made Dec 8 at 2023 4:24 AM

CW2 Ernest Krutzsch — Fri, 08 Dec 2023 04:24:54 -0500

I was in MI in the 80'and 90's we found that gang members and right wing extremists would send kids who wanted to be members, and had no criminal record, to join the military and learn military tactics that they could come back and teach to the groups. They were hard to find, because they never communicated directly with their group, and were ideal soldiers

Response by CPT Edward Baker made Dec 25 at 2023 6:02 PM

CPT Edward Baker — Mon, 25 Dec 2023 18:02:49 -0500

I can personally see how and why Vets would be drawn to these groups. Taking an oath to protect and defend our country, and the constitution, is not something some of us take lightly. It is also something that doesn't end just because our service has. I personally have a hard time with it, considering the state of the USA today. I feel like we now have two political parties that cannot be trusted to do what is best for the country and the people. We are all now seeing huge breaches of security clearances that should end terms and disqualify individuals from running again. As soldiers we know what the consequences are for even small violations. However, this does not seem to be the case with our politicians. It makes one wonder if they even have or need security clearances for their positions. If they do not then that is an oversight that needs to be fixed. Also, having two parties that can never agree on anything, just because it wasn't their party, is getting old. I believe once elected the parties should end. Yes, you may run as republican or democrat but once elected then you're a senator or congressmen whose sole purpose is to better the USA and the People regardless of party.
As a person who grew up as Gen X, I remember a better, safer America. Wasn't perfect, but was a whole lot better than today. How do we get back to a better USA is hard to say, but I think it should be up to the people to decide instead of the few dictating the lives of the many.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2024 9:24 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Jan 2024 09:24:54 -0500

Yes, as a matter the fact we can start with Timothy McVeight...now under Orange turd many racist right wingers came out of the shadows...

Response by Maj John Bell made Jan 19 at 2024 11:04 AM

Maj John Bell — Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:04:59 -0500

A true threat to our nation is an existential threat. So no, I don't think radicalized vets are a threat to the nation.

Do they need to be dealt with? Yes. The question is when.

I'd rather deal with radicalized vets when they cross the line from legal activity to illegal activity than deal with a government that ignores the Constitution in the name of public safety.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 19 at 2024 5:51 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:51:27 -0500

I am not worried because there are not enough radical veterans to cause a revolution or materially impact the country in other ways.

Response by SMSgt Keith Klug made Feb 2 at 2024 6:52 AM

SMSgt Keith Klug — Fri, 02 Feb 2024 06:52:55 -0500

This is just another way by extremists to try and divide our country. Put the fear into people and repeat it over and over and they will believe it.

Response by 1SG John Millan made Feb 3 at 2024 7:10 AM

1SG John Millan — Sat, 03 Feb 2024 07:10:28 -0500

No, only woke and lefty are threats to democracy. Libs in uniform are traitors.

Response by Sgt Michael Clifford made Feb 5 at 2024 1:18 PM

Sgt Michael Clifford — Mon, 05 Feb 2024 13:18:25 -0500

Anyone who has been radicalized is a threat. If not to the naton then to his/her community. Timothy McVeigh cerainly proved t be a threat. Some of the insurectionists of J6 if they had been successful intended to make changes to the peaceful transfer of the power of the presidency. That is a threat. How many mass casualty killers have telagraphed their intentions to do violence and it has been ignored because no one thought to mention it.

If you see something, say something. You may be saving lives.

Response by SGT Mark Hasch made Feb 5 at 2024 1:51 PM

SGT Mark Hasch — Mon, 05 Feb 2024 13:51:46 -0500

When I returned from overseas in 09 my fire chief pulled me to the side and informed me that H.L.S. had determined that all returning military personnel was to be deemed a threat!/:0(.
Now all of us know for a fact some are a little more ripe than others(crazy) but not everyone of us!!!

Response by SGM Ronald Cheatom made Mar 4 at 2024 4:22 PM

SGM Ronald Cheatom — Mon, 04 Mar 2024 16:22:23 -0500

We had them when I served, (1981-2001). So what. I fought to protect everyone's right to think and feel however they choose. That is why this is the land of the free. I may not like it, but they have a right to it.

Response by SSgt Mary Dungan made Mar 22 at 2024 3:45 PM

SSgt Mary Dungan — Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:45:57 -0400

Yes. I believe they are a huge threat, considering how many veterans and active duty military are domestic terrorists who stormed our Capitol. I've read a lot about radicalization of the military, and I am hoping they find a way to deal with this. I am of the opinion that if any active duty military member participated in the Capitol siege, they should be court-martialed, jailed, and receive a Dishonorable discharge. I do believe some vets are very susceptible to radicalization, especially when they are MAGA.

Response by PFC Charles Chambliss made Mar 23 at 2024 4:13 PM

PFC Charles Chambliss — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 16:13:09 -0400

From Ltg Flynn on down they are a threat to the very country they swore to protect.As Jan 6th sadly proved people who fought for their country sadly followed a man who insulted The Honarable John McCain over and over again.Even after McCain passed Trump raised and lowered the flag at the White House like only a jealous child would do.We serve our country because we are needed,if you have never served you won,t understand.

Response by SSG William Zopff III made Mar 24 at 2024 7:46 PM

SSG William Zopff III — Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:46:51 -0400

Radicalized military veterans is subjective; and is being used by the leftist activists to label veterans. Which paints all veterans in a RED warning light that can be used by the same activists and their government friends to deny those veterans access ti their rights, for any reason they choose!

Response by SrA Bruce Banner made Mar 28 at 2024 9:06 PM

SrA Bruce Banner — Thu, 28 Mar 2024 21:06:56 -0400

This is why I avoid sites like the Daily Bestiality. In fact, I ignore all news now and only read newsletters from my city and county as I know they will affect me directly. News since the advent of the 24 hour news cycle pioneered by the communist news network (cnn) has been sensationalistic and only propaganda to promote an agenda whether it be politics or advertising revenue.

Response by SGT Mark Hasch made Mar 31 at 2024 8:05 PM

SGT Mark Hasch — Sun, 31 Mar 2024 20:05:35 -0400

There is good and bad in every walk of life, I would love to be able to say everyone is good but we all know the truth!/:0(.
The sad truth is some wish to amplify the few that are bad!!!

Response by SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson made Apr 2 at 2024 5:37 PM

SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson — Tue, 02 Apr 2024 17:37:35 -0400

I just read a three piece article from the Army Insider on this. Yes it is happening. Higher ups in white nationalist/neo-nazi groups say they are not only targeting military personnel and veterans but actively sending their people in "under cover" to learn military tactics. They tell them not to try to recruit while in but some do and get booted out. Hard to deny when it comes straight from the horses mouth.

Response by SPC Max Waller made Apr 8 at 2024 3:02 AM

SPC Max Waller — Mon, 08 Apr 2024 03:02:09 -0400

thoroughly examine the works of combat military veterans: Smedley Darlington Butler (1881 - 1940) who was a 2 time recipient of the Congressional Medal Of Honor, and Howard Zinn (1920 - 2010), and Ron Kovic (Thursday, 4 July 1946 - still living) famous for Born On The Fourth Of July, and Oliver Stone (1946 - still living) to understand how every current nation with non-existing countries that is how ordinary people become enemies of those who are blatant bold faced pathological liars that is the ongoing evil side of humanity before documented history including verbal history - 12:01 am Pacific DayLight Savings Time on Monday, 8 April 2024 on a leap year

Response by CPL Theodore Moore made Apr 24 at 2024 5:01 PM

CPL Theodore Moore — Wed, 24 Apr 2024 17:01:12 -0400

I was in the Army for 4 years. I was in the Navy Reserves for three. I met one soldier who held racist views. However, I think this was the result of his ignorant backwoods upbringing rather than his overarching political views. He got in trouble for saying some inappropriate things, but he learned to change or shut up. In the Navy, I met a guy who was pretty scary. He had some authoritarian and neo Nazi views. He was a Marine and later a SEAL. He got put out for some reason. Most of the other guys I met were Born Again Christians who wanted to be Cops, or they were befuddled hippies who couldn't figure out another way to make a living. I remember in Basic Training the extensive discussion on how we were loyal to the constitution and not to any one person or party. So, I guess, no.

Response by PVT Skyler Brown made Apr 25 at 2024 10:56 PM

PVT Skyler Brown — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 22:56:16 -0400

No, I believe the Left is just trying to gaslight as per usual. Majority Veterans I have met are All for Liberties, and freedoms that the Constitution gives us. Sure, we would fight to ensure that the Constitution is upheld. The Soldiers Creed comes to mind.

Response by LTC Lance Headrick made Apr 26 at 2024 2:30 AM

LTC Lance Headrick — Fri, 26 Apr 2024 02:30:47 -0400

I agree. I think if a study was done; it would find that Vets in general are less likely to participate in shenanigans like this.

My question would be; if you think Veterans are mostly conservative (of whatever flavor). Do you think they joined that way or did they become that way while serving? Then, if Service to our Nation is SO laudable and Service Members are great people....how did they transition to terrorist after service?

Whether they because conservative during Service or not; Serving made them Great Americans? Then being conservative can't be that bad and maybe have to ask what takes them from Great Americans to terrorists.......if you believe that garbage.....just a thought.

Response by SGT Chris Ferrell made Apr 26 at 2024 8:39 AM

SGT Chris Ferrell — Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:39:29 -0400

I truly believe that the majority of "extremists" these days are on the left. They have a leader who blatantly tries to circumvent the Supreme Court, Congressmen that publicly call for leadership changes in allies govts, lawfare being conducted against President Trump, the far left agendas being forced down our children's throats in school and our Universities openly teaching Communist and Socialist views.
If there is any "radicalized" service members it's those who take their Oath to the Constitution seriously and especially the "enemies foreign and domestic part" with the domestic half being the true threat to our Republic.

Response by SPC Rick Beatty made Apr 26 at 2024 9:10 PM

SPC Rick Beatty — Fri, 26 Apr 2024 21:10:53 -0400

You have to remember a few presidents ago all formal military were potential home grown terrorists so I don't have to much fath that this is true or needs to be worried about.

Response by SGT Mark Hasch made Apr 27 at 2024 8:45 AM

SGT Mark Hasch — Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:45:56 -0400

I belonged to a volunteer fireman department in the county I lived in when I returned from my tour, at my very first meeting my chief pulled me to the side and asked me if I had heard what Obama had ordered homeland to do, I said no, what's up. My fire chief said that the powers to be had deemed every returning vet and vet was to be looked upon as a terrorist and kept a close eye on!!!
Honestly I couldn't feel the love after hearing that news!!! You cannot judge a book because of its cover and you should not judge the barrel because of a few bad apples!!!

Response by SFC Preston Schleinkofer made Apr 27 at 2024 1:04 PM

SFC Preston Schleinkofer — Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:04:35 -0400

I wouldn't believe the RAND Corp, the Daily Beast, or anyone attempting to smear the heart and soul of America. Veterans by and large are the best and most patriotic citizens in our nation. Anyone who calls into question the loyalty of these men and women is doing so for nefarious reasons, PERIOD! Full Stop!

It wasn't long ago when the an analyst from the new Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) published for the new Obama administration a very similar document. The political Left has been taken o er by Communists, Communist sympathizers, and ignorant lemmings who will follow their pied piper where ever they lead.

The "mostly peaceful" color revolution of 2020 has never brought this amount of suspicion and threat designation reporting from ANY of the same supposed experts and analysts, even at the RAND Corp. Why? If you have to ask that question then you aren't a critical thinker or very good at analyzing the current situation in America.

Veterans, moms at school board meetings, right for lifers, etc., are not the threat, but the solution. We have a nation to stand up for from an evil we have resisted and thought we had defeated. That threat is alive a thriving on our Universities and colleges today, but their leaders, the ones who preceded this current rope of Leftists are in politics and government service all across America and they must be named and called out. If not, we're finished as a Republic.

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Apr 28 at 2024 3:23 AM

Capt Jeff S. — Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:23:36 -0400

Daily Beast is a Liberal Rag. Pure, unadulterated Progressive propagandist BS for degenerates.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2024 3:10 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Apr 2024 03:10:17 -0400

If they try to say I’m an extremist and send feds to talk to me I’ll sue them for slander. I will put a camera in the federal agents face as well berating them and will make the video go viral. At my job working security I would get the third degree and I would get fired. If they accuse me they better be right because I will bring the full wrath of the courts and public opinion.

Response by PVT Agustin McLamb made Apr 29 at 2024 5:09 PM

PVT Agustin McLamb — Mon, 29 Apr 2024 17:09:21 -0400

Oh absolutely! Just look at those "Veterans, Evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and mothers disagreeing with school boards," denying Jews entry into universities, burning American flags, calling for the annihilation of Israel, replacing the American flag with Palestinian flags, shutting down traffic, etc.

And we all remember the summer 2020. The summer of "mostly peaceful" protests?

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Apr 29 at 2024 5:46 PM

SPC Brian Stephens — Mon, 29 Apr 2024 17:46:53 -0400

No. Of course not. And the numbers prove the assumption wrong. Increasingly, the perpetrators tend to be transgender/gay or far-left.

Response by COL Larry Saul made May 3 at 2024 8:47 AM

COL Larry Saul — Fri, 03 May 2024 08:47:09 -0400

In recent years, we have heard from the Left this myth of radical veterans and Hate Groups within the ranks. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is no evidence of radical groups within the ranks. Yet, the Left continue to raise the issue. If it were true, wouldn't the senior leadership have brought it up? The only organized groups that have been identified are branches of domestic street gangs operating on and near bases. About 15 years ago, Kaiserslautern Military community had a significant street gang presence, not sure of the status now.

Response by SFC Preston Schleinkofer made May 4 at 2024 10:59 PM

SFC Preston Schleinkofer — Sat, 04 May 2024 22:59:42 -0400

The Marxist Left see us as a threat to their ability to gain and maintain ultimate power and control. They know that anyone who swore and oath to the US Constitution and MEANT IT, is a threat to their treasonous plans. This is also why they are demonizing Christians and traditional Catholics, who believe in their God. We are up against an evil that has invaded our nation from within. This election season may get frosty with all of these insurgents flooding our southern border. Stay vigilant!

Response by PO1 Todd B. made May 9 at 2024 2:39 PM

PO1 Todd B. — Thu, 09 May 2024 14:39:40 -0400

I no longer give a shit what leftist and democrat based organizations say about me or others. What I DO care about is upholding the oath I have taken more times than I can count. And that oath does not change because someone else has an opinion that calls it "radical" or anything else.

My own creed is this. I will stand and I will do what is necessary to defend the rights therein of the US Constitution. And I will do so without regard to my life if need be. That means in plain English. You come and try to remove my rights from me without any due process based on some piece of paper, executive order, illegitimate agency rules and regulations, I will not go to my knees. I will stand and defend those rights.

IF the Constitution is amended and ratified by all states as amended, then I will abide by that. However, there is also a line there I will not cross. And that line is when someone in power tries to remove God given absolute rights to our lives and our choices on how WE choose to live them.

Response by SSG Franklin Briant made May 11 at 2024 11:39 PM

SSG Franklin Briant — Sat, 11 May 2024 23:39:16 -0400

News and various groups will label any and everything they hate, on both sides. If you stand up for what you believe you are radical. The left is all about the cause and the popular talking point. If they believe it will bring in votes they will jump in with both feet. The far right is the same way. There are some of our brothers and sisters who will and have joined the radical sides they believe in. Military due to our training are looked at as a threat and easy mark for those who wish to use that against all of us. Funny how veterans are the first to be marked and for the most part are the ones who for the most part stay to ourselves until poked. Where as the real radicals are the paid rioters and antagonists who are out looking to stir up trouble, many of which are in the government.

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 10:11 AM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 10:11:26 -0400

V1 : https://youtube.com/shorts/1qWo03RDptU?si=pTfJxdv7VzVpa7Eb

1.) Veterans fight back against extremist groups trying to recruit ex-military members
APRIL 27, 20237:19 AM ET

Some military veterans, known as Task Force Butler, are tracking and infiltrating domestic extremist groups, hoping to trigger prosecutions before the groups can cause more violence toward minorities.

Top law enforcement officials say that violent domestic extremist groups are on the rise in the U.S., and they often attempt to recruit military veterans who are prized for their training while in the service. But there are also veterans fighting back, as NPR's Quil Lawrence reports.

SOURCE : https://youtube.com/shorts/1qWo03RDptU?si=pTfJxdv7VzVpa7Eb

2.) Meet your local anti-government extremist groups

Three Percent
SOURCE : https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0034378/

Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
SOURCE : https://www.americanoversight.org/investigation/the-constitutional-sheriffs-movement-and-its-threat-to-democracy

Border militias
SOURCE : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48029360.amp

Sovereign citizens
SOURCE : https://www.justsecurity.org/77328/sovereign-citizens-more-than-paper-terrorists/

Hate groups
SOURCE : https://www.voanews.com/amp/report-even-as-militias-disbanded-anti-government-groups-surged-in-us-/7126248.html

SOURCE : https://www.hcn.org/articles/politics-anti-government-groups-in-the-west-right-now/

3.) CTEC Publications
Veterans and Extremism: From Militias to January 6th and Real Patriots

These veterans nearly always joined what are called constitutional militia groups, ones that are often quite similar to a “grown up Boy Scouts” image that all militias like to portray themselves as in public. Constitutionalist militias are wary of the government, yet believe they have an onus to take a defensive, not offensive, position, relative to government actors.

“Though rare, these extreme views have a dangerous history. Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who remains the most notorious veteran-turned-terrorist, espoused similar beliefs about having been experimented on while deployed and came to believe that his involvement in the Gulf War was an honorless, shameful experience perpetrated by a corrupt government.”

SOURCE : https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/veterans-and-extremism-militias-january-6th

* DHS Report Warns Of Right Wing Extremists

(U//FOUO) Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political
Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment

SOURCE : https://irp.fas.org/eprint/rightwing.pdf

4.) Examining Extremism: The Militia Movement

SOURCE : https://www.csis.org/blogs/examining-extremism/examining-extremism-militia-movement

Soldiers bond through racial humor | Anthony Pompliano

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Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 10:19 AM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 10:19:10 -0400

1.) Ron DeSantis
State guard set up by DeSantis is being trained as personal militia, veterans say

Veterans resign from force established as civilian disaster relief, citing concerns over ‘militaristic’ training and ‘abuse’
Richard Luscombe in Miami
@richlusc
Sat 15 Jul 2023 13.54 EDT

A Florida state guard established by the rightwing governor, Ron DeSantis, under the guise of a civilian disaster relief force is instead being trained as an armed, combat-ready militia under his personal command, according to military veteran recruits who have quit the program.

Several veterans resigned after an encampment last month having become concerned at the “militaristic” training and “abuse” one disabled veteran suffered at the hands of instructors, according to an investigation by the Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times.

Promoted by DeSantis as an “emergency focused, civilian defense force” when it was established in June 2022, the state guard has quickly morphed into something quite different, the report found.

Volunteers have been trained for military combat, including the use of weapons; khaki polo shirts and pants were replaced by camouflage uniforms; and recruits were “barked at” by boot camp instructors at the joint training base who woke them before dawn and imposed lights-out by 10pm.

Additionally, DeSantis’s compliant, Republican-led state legislature has contributed to the change of direction, this year approving a massive expansion in the force’s funding, size and equipment. Its budget increased from $10m to $107.5m, and its maximum size more than tripled from 400 recruits to 1,500.

On the governor’s shopping list were helicopters, boats, police powers and reportedly even cellphone-hacking technology for a force outside of federal jurisdiction, and accountable directly to him.

“The program got hijacked and turned into something that we were trying to stay away from: a militia,” Brian Newhouse, a retired navy veteran with 20 years’ experience, told the reporters.

Newhouse was originally chosen to lead one of the state guard’s three divisions, and said he was removed from the base near Jacksonville on the first day of training after raising his concerns with national guard staff who were acting as instructors.

SOURCE : https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/15/ron-desantis-florida-state-guard-militia-veterans-quit

1A.) Turmoil in Florida’s New State Guard, as Some Recruits Quit

Some who volunteered for the force commissioned by Gov. Ron DeSantis said the group, billed as a natural disaster relief organization, had become too militarized.

But the deployment this spring has been mired in internal turmoil, with some recruits complaining that what was supposed to be a civilian disaster response organization had become heavily militarized, requiring volunteers to participate in marching drills and military-style training sessions on weapons and hand-to-hand combat.

At least 20 percent of the 150 people initially accepted into the program dropped out or were dismissed, state officials acknowledged, including a retired Marine captain who filed a false imprisonment complaint against Guard sergeants with the local sheriff after he got into a dispute with instructors and was forcibly escorted off the site.

Several of those who left and spoke to The New York Times said they objected to the direction the organization was taking and either quit or were fired when they tried to voice their concerns.

Mr. DeSantis, to whom the new State Guard reports directly, has suggested that concerns over the organization’s future role are unwarranted.

“If you turned on NBC, it was ‘DeSantis is raising an army, and he’s going to raze the planet,’” Mr. DeSantis told reporters last year. “But, you know, the response from people was ‘Oh, hell, he’s raising an army? I want to join! Let’s do it.’”

SOURCE : https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/15/us/florida-state-guard-desantis.html

State guard set up by DeSantis is being trained as personal militia, veterans say | Ron DeSantis...

Veterans resign as force established as civilian disaster relief becomes ‘militaristic’ and ‘abusive’

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 2:18 PM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 14:18:43 -0400

U.S. Citizens, former military and active duty personnel attend these functions/think tanks/conferences/seminars/support groups … globally.

The threat is there.

V1: https://youtu.be/3PPDUaGrE9w?si=Dnn2kHB9c4-uyTk_

The Police Are No Longer On Our Side (New Culture Forum Conference 2024 - Peter Whittle)

New Culture Forum Director Peter Whittle's address to the 2024 NCF Conference held in London over the St. George's Day weekend.---------------SUBSCRIBE: If y...

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 2:24 PM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 14:24:31 -0400

Not sure if people know/knew about this. These are terror cells operating.

Rapekrieg

V1 : https://youtu.be/xGSevQAkml8?si=6DgavSgdzcJ-iFYG

V2 : https://youtu.be/dS-v-owx1co?si=JSqVgl6TSbx0Lsyu

V3 : https://youtu.be/w07Fs7N1Vmg?si=aIob1Jg_4gXf87Sm

The online incel movement is getting more violent and extreme, report says

The Center for Countering Digital Hate analyzed more than 1 million posts showing a rise in advocacy of rape, mass killings

SOURCE : https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/22/incels-rape-murder-study/

* BONUS

VIDEO : https://youtu.be/9WOQuBTccSY?si=Er5_X4zNStZGNRtq

1.) Neo-Nazi Marine plotted to attack Jews and others in ‘rapekrieg,’ federal prosecutors say

JULY 27, 2022 12:30 PM

Neo-Nazi US Marine plotted to attack Jews with Rapekrieg group, prosecutors say

Matthew Belanger, from New York, procured weapons and other gear, discussed attacking synagogue and other targets with other white supremacists

SOURCE : https://www.timesofisrael.com/neo-nazi-us-marine-plotted-to-attack-jews-with-rapekrieg-group-prosecutors-say/amp/

2.) USA v. Belanger, Matthew Honolulu, HI

Anti-Semitism

Matthew Belanger is accused of leading a neo-Nazi group that was alleged to have been planning an attack on a New York synagogue. Belanger, while serving as a Marine in Honolulu, paid a police officer on Long Island, New York, to buy him guns that he wouldn't be allowed to buy legally. The FBI began investigating Belanger because it suspected he was planning to harm people and destroy property in hate-motivated attacks, according to court documents filed this month.

"The investigation was grounded in evidence that defendant was using social media to conspire with others, including members of a group called Rapekrieg, to commit ... hate crimes," the documents said. The group, based on Long Island, "had procured weapons, uniforms, and tactical gear, and discussed committing attacks on a synagogue, Jewish persons, women, and minorities, including the rape of 'enemies' to injure, oppress, threaten, and intimidate, and the rape of white women to increase the production of white children in furtherance of Rapekrieg's goal of creating a white ethno-state through accelerationist means."

Other members of the group identified Belanger as a leader and administrator of the group who had written Rapekrieg's manifesto.

SOURCE : https://www.investigativeproject.org/case/1183/us-v-belanger

Cop Helped Neo-Nazi Ex-Marine Plan Synagogue Attack

Former U.S. Marine Matthew Belanger is accused of plotting a synagogue attack with racial and sexual violence. Joining him in his documented dangerous ideol...

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 2:33 PM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 14:33:06 -0400

Some U.S Veterans have taken on the ideology of these groups. Joined and/or trained with them via stateside or overseas.

https://youtu.be/H402W1YSLHw

1.) Feuerkrieg Division (FKD)

Feuerkrieg Division (FKD)
Key Points

* A small international neo-Nazi group that advocates for a race war and holds some of the white supremacist movement’s most extreme views.

* Feuerkrieg Division, or FKD, calls for violence against their perceived enemies and destruction of “the system,” or society at large, which they believe is controlled by the Jews.

* Established in late 2018, FKD is an international organization with about 30 members.

* FKD has European roots but has recently expanded its outreach to American audiences.

* While the bulk of their activity is online, members have engaged in leafleting efforts, distributing violent, racist and anti-Semitic propaganda.

* FKD promotes Siege culture mentality and the concept of accelerationism.

FKD advocates for “sacrifice” and embraces violence as a solution to “fix” the current political and cultural system, sidestepping concerns about optics and advocating for radical, systemic change. The group criticizes and demeans other white supremacist movements, like the alt-right, for being too focused on public perception and unsuccessful in the movement’s ability to create real societal change with their tactics.

Feuerkrieg Division is heavily influenced by Atomwaffen Division, a neo-Nazi group allegedly tied to five murders across the U.S. FKD advocates similar core beliefs, racist and vitriolic propaganda with shared graphics and general subculture.

In addition to Atomwaffen, FKD supports some of the most extreme white supremacist organizations, often referring to members of entities like The Base and Sonnenkrieg Division as comrades.

FKD embraces “Siegeculture,” a philosophy, political orientation, spiritual outlook and solution to societal problems that is dominated by hate and an embrace of violence anchored in fascist ideology.

The ideology weaves the teachings and actions of James Mason, Adolf Hitler and Charles Manson, among others, into a tapestry of extreme hate.
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Cells

FKD was established in October 2018 in the Baltics, most likely Estonia. Over time, the group has expanded its footprint to include Belgium, England, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Latvia, Western Germany and Russia. In 2019, FKD continued to expand their recruitment efforts in Europe and in North America, including Canada and especially the U.S.

SOURCE : https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/feuerkrieg-division-fkd

2.) ATOMWAFFEN DIVISION

Atomwaffen Division (AWD) is a terroristic neo-Nazi organization that formed out of Iron March, an influential fascist forum that went offline in fall 2017.

EXTREMIST GROUP INFO:

SPLC Designated Hate Group

Date Founded 2015
Location Texas
Ideology Neo-Nazi

Atomwaffen Division (AWD) is a terroristic neo-Nazi organization that formed out of Iron March, an influential fascist forum that went offline in fall 2017.

AWD is organized as a series of terror cells that work toward civilizational collapse. Its members, who can be fairly described as accelerationists, believe that violence, depravity and degeneracy are the only sure way to establish order in their dystopian and apocalyptic vision of the world. AWD’s chief influences are James Mason Charles Manson, Joseph Tommasi and William Pierce.

Their strategy for promoting and establishing national socialism can be traced back to The Order, the violent and capable white supremacist terror cell founded by Robert Jay Mathews in the 1980s., Charles Manson, Joseph Tommasi and William Pierce.

Their strategy for promoting and establishing national socialism can be traced back to The Order, the violent and capable white supremacist terror cell founded by Robert Jay Mathews in the 1980s.

IN THEIR OWN WORDS

“What we are creating here is something that James Mason attempted to put into form but because of circumstance it never was implimented [sic] until the year of 2017 when Atomwaffen Division discovered and met James Mason.

Ryan and Vincent Snyder both agreed to help him publish his works, but through the development of the website we have decided to take the proper course of action with SIEGE. Too long has the movement trapped people into a mindset of chasing their own tail. Those of you who are in here, perhaps, will create history. That is our intention.” – Siege Culture website

“The frail whites will serve as prey to the aryan predator.” – Atomwaffen Division website
“Pro f----- propaganda is working! AIDS is spreading like wildfire. Dead f------ couldn’t make us happier! Hail AIDS!” –

Atomwaffen Division website
“Satanism is alright. Depends on how you go about it. But then again, I’m more well read on the subject than most people. Most people get scared away and only go into the crust, rather than down to the core.” – “Rape,” AWD Discord server, Nov. 9, 2017

“I hate hearing about ‘innocent people.’ There are no innocent people in this disgusting modern world.” – Brandon Russell, “49 F--- in Body Bags: Shooting in Orlando Gay Club,” Iron March forum, June 14, 2016.

“Bulldozing bodies into mass graves is the obvious solution. But in all seriousness; what re-educaiton [sic] doesn’t fix, the sword will.” – Brandon Russell, “What can be done about Degeneracy in the 21st century?” Iron March forum, June 14, 2016

SOURCE : https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/atomwaffen-division

They’ve dug in deeper underground, but have not went away.

“Advisor” to neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen speaks out

James Mason denies he's a "member" of the violent group Atomwaffen, but Washington state members follow his guidance.

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made May 12 at 2024 2:38 PM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 12 May 2024 14:38:53 -0400

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-vote-nazi-white-supremacists-military-police-1724545

A.) Violent Domestic Extremist Groups and the Recruitment of Veterans.”

SOURCE : https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/113968/witnesses/HHRG-117-VR00-Wstate-JonesS-20211013.pdf

B.) Summary of Terrorism Threat to the U.S. Homeland

SOURCE : https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-february-07-2022

Key factors contributing to the current heightened threat environment include:

1. The proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which sow discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions:
* For example, there is widespread online proliferation of false or misleading narratives regarding unsubstantiated widespread election fraud and COVID-19. Grievances associated with these themes inspired violent extremist attacks during 2021.
* Malign foreign powers have and continue to amplify these false or misleading narratives in efforts to damage the United States.

2. Continued calls for violence directed at U.S. critical infrastructure; soft targets and mass gatherings; faith-based institutions, such as churches, synagogues, and mosques; institutions of higher education; racial and religious minorities; government facilities and personnel, including law enforcement and the military; the media; and perceived ideological opponents:
* Foreign terrorist organizations and domestic threat actors continue to amplify pre-existing false or misleading narratives online to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions. Some of these actors do so to encourage unrest, which could lead to acts of violence against the facilities, individuals, institutions, and organizations cited above.
* Violent extremists inspired by a range of grievances and ideologies continue to target crowded venues traditionally perceived to be soft targets, such as commercial and publicly accessible facilities, public gatherings, certain government and state facilities, and houses of worship.
* The recent attack on a synagogue in Colleyville, Texas highlights the continuing threat of violence based upon racial or religious motivations, as well as threats against faith-based organizations.
* Threats directed at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and other colleges and universities, Jewish facilities, and churches cause concern and may inspire extremist threat actors to mobilize to violence.
* As COVID-19 restrictions continue to decrease nationwide, increased access to commercial and government facilities and the rising number of mass gatherings could provide increased opportunities for individuals looking to commit acts of violence to do so, often with little or no warning. Meanwhile, COVID-19 mitigation measures—particularly COVID-19 vaccine and mask mandates—have been used by domestic violent extremists to justify violence since 2020 and could continue to inspire these extremists to target government, healthcare, and academic institutions that they associate with those measures.
* Domestic violent extremists have also viewed attacks against U.S. critical infrastructure as a means to create chaos and advance ideological goals, and have recently aspired to disrupt U.S. electric and communications critical infrastructure, including by spreading false or misleading narratives about 5G cellular technology.
* Some domestic violent extremists have continued to advocate for violence in response to false or misleading narratives about unsubstantiated election fraud. The months preceding the upcoming 2022 midterm elections could provide additional opportunities for these extremists and other individuals to call for violence directed at democratic institutions, political candidates, party offices, election events, and election workers.
* A small number of threat actors are attempting to use the evacuation and resettlement of Afghan nationals following the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan last year as a means to exacerbate long-standing grievances and justify attacks against immigrants.

3. Calls by foreign terrorist organizations for attacks on the United States based on recent events:
* Foreign terrorist organizations will likely continue to maintain a highly visible online presence to attempt to inspire U.S.-based individuals to engage in violent activity.
* Supporters of foreign terrorist organizations have encouraged copycat attacks following the January 15, 2022 attack on a synagogue in Colleyville, Texas.
* Foreign terrorists remain intent on targeting the United States and U.S. persons, and may seek to capitalize on the evolving security environment overseas to plot attacks. The Islamic State of Iraq and ash-Sham (ISIS) or its affiliates may issue public calls for retaliation due to the strike that recently killed ISIS leader Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurayshi.

House Republicans All Vote Against Neo-Nazi Probe of Military, Police

An amendment to monitor white supremacy in the military and law enforcement was passed despite 208 "no" votes from the GOP.

Response by SFC Kevin Childers made May 12 at 2024 2:53 PM

SFC Kevin Childers — Sun, 12 May 2024 14:53:19 -0400

So to be fair to both ends of the spectrum, bring back the draft, open it to all genders, religions, whatever. Then no one can complain that they don't have enough soldiers sharing their views.

Response by 1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) made May 13 at 2024 12:32 PM

1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) — Mon, 13 May 2024 12:32:56 -0400

The vast majority of military personnel are far to busy with their everyday duties to find the time to be "Radicalized"! I am in total agreement with SFC John D. -- Reading the Daily Beast is a waste of effort if you are looking for respectable journalism. As for the UMC study that almost 1 in 7 of the people from Jan 6th were veterans... According to the 2022 US Census, 13.4% of all males have Veteran Status. Using those stats, veteran participation was a normal distribution - they were not overrepresented!