Do you believe that there will ever exist a world in which there is absolutely no need for any military force?

2018-04-15T16:59:32-04:00

If the past and present are any indication, war is pretty much an integral element of the human condition but will this always be so? Do you believe that mankind will ever evolve to a point where a military force will never be necessary? What might that world look like? How might it function? Do you think that we will just find something or someone else to wage war against?

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 5:01 PM

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SGT Joseph Gunderson A world could exist with no military force, but then, there will be no humans left alive on our planet. An increasing population and dwindling resources are serious problems that will continue to increase tensions.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 15 at 2018 5:04 PM

2018-04-15T17:04:30-04:00

Likely not for centuries...I'm not saying that to ne cynical or a pessimist, however, societal evolution, I'm afraid, proceeds at its own pace, and no level of idealism or scientific innovation is ever likely to change that, in all likelihood....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 15 at 2018 5:05 PM

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Even though I obviously wish it could happen, certainly.,..

Response by SGT John Wesley made Apr 15 at 2018 5:17 PM

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Probably not. As there is always a despot that needs to be handled.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 15 at 2018 5:48 PM

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The world will never be rid of sectarian violence, imperialism, and ideology that spawn wars.

Response by SGT Matthew S. made Apr 15 at 2018 6:03 PM

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As much as I would like to say yes, human nature makes me believe there will always be someone who wants power or what someone else has.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 6:06 PM

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No because a military force isn’t just for combat anymore.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 7:38 PM

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There might possibly be a world out there in the universe that exists with no war. A human world...hard to tell. It depends on if we evolve past war or we just implode and destroy our race and something else takes control of this world.

In the grand scheme of things, we are just a speck in the universe.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2018 10:22 PM

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I believe one day, thousands of more years from now, when one ideology finally takes control of all territories (which I think will eventually happen). There may then only be need for the police. This is all a probability unless we wipe each other off the face of the planet first. I kind of believe that a One World Government could happen. But it's a long ways away.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Apr 16 at 2018 1:05 AM

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Without some Military force to protect and nation and its interest worldwide there would be no control over the nutcases that keep seems to pop up throughout time. Failure to maintain a strong Military makes a nation a target to others as opposed to preventing exactly that sort of thing. Even actual relief missions to assist other nations couldn't be carried out as well without the Military assistance. When We drastically cut Military spending and reduce the size of the service is when We have problems as there is far less deterrent effect to prevent this and the result is often a War or crisis that otherwise could have been prevented.

Response by PO1 Brian Austin made Apr 16 at 2018 3:54 AM

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No. I just don't have a whole lot of faith in mankind.
"So long as there are men, there will be wars." - Albert Einstein

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2018 8:18 AM

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Not this side of the Second Coming as far as I'm concerned. Of course not everyone believes in that, so the hope that we might before extinction persists. I think a more poignant question would be, if there ever did come a time when mankind could...would we? Given that we define so much of what makes us "superior", both in the eyes of others and ourselves by violence, I think that humans will always find "reasons" for using force to get what they want from others.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2018 10:18 AM

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Not before the return of Christ. "You are going to hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, because these things must take place, but the end is not yet." Matthew 24:6

But after His return, yes. "They will turn their swords into plows and their spears into pruning knives.
Nations will not take up the sword against other nations, and they will never again train for war." Isaiah 2:4

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2018 9:34 PM

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Not in a world of primates

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 1:35 AM

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BLUF: No. We can never reach the point where we can resolve all our disputes without ever resorting to violence. There's no definitive evidence to suggest we can.

I like your question, and I think you've phrased it in the right spot light. Historical evidence tells us much about what it means to be human. And it is important to recognize such when we imagine what could be for humanity.

In a broad examination of history, how can we answer anything but no? Yet, in more specific cases, I believe we can find societies that have functioned with relatively no military force, such as ancient parts of Northern Asia or even North America.

I think it is a valid idea that we could have a world without wars, yet unrealistic in coupling that idea with modern sociology. As we intereact with each other across political, cultural, and religious landscapes we inevitably find ourselves in conflict with one another and sociologically, perhaps even psychologically, resort to military force in it's various different forms to resolve that conflict.

So on one hand I would say we have the ability to evolve into such a peaceful type people, but are incapable of actually utilizing that ability, restricted by our human natures as we intereact with each other and our reality. It is here that my theology surrounding Christ might say something to the effect of "if we are freed from our fallen nature, then we are free to resolve conflict in ways other than military force, solely by the power stemming from the source of that freedom, which is a redemptive authority that transforms our nature".

Yet, what could be argued still is that military force is not inherently bad, but when just is a perfectly good and acceptable part of human nature.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 17 at 2018 9:54 AM

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It has many names Joe- Heaven, Shambala, Nirvana. Heck even Switzerland has an Army!

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 4 at 2022 7:18 PM

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Math Anawer: number of humans < 2