Do you consider yourself to be informed re: AR 670-1?

CSM Charles Hayden — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 01:37:14 -0400

670-1 dtd 3Feb2005 has depictions on page 66, fig 15.7 showing trouser w/o a 'break' over the front of low quarter shoes.

I recall asking for, 'no break' in the crease of my trousers over my shoe laces. The ? hem was then lowered to slightly cover the heel of the shoes.

Inistutional memory, greybeards?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2017 2:00 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 02:00:33 -0400

CSM Hayden;
I feel that the Army has changed AR 670-1 so many times now that its hard to keep up with the changes. The Army realized recently that we had too many AR's and FM's so there attempt to make it more conducive was by adding ADP's and TC's into the mix. This has given us even more to try to weed out. Some leaders still follow the AR's while some follow the ADP's and TC's so now everyone is referencing different information. I feel less informed and knowledgeable now and have to crunch to learn these new standards. It seems like the Army is attempting to lower the standard to conform to the younger generation. We are still using the military as a social experiment.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Apr 17 at 2017 10:41 AM

SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:41:55 -0400

that reg needs to be thrown out, have you seen our soldiers todays, they look like street rappers in uniform holding their cell phones, NO RESPECT

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Apr 17 at 2017 11:40 AM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:40:18 -0400

I always had the slight break. but it seemed to always be more than what I was after.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2017 2:37 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:37:34 -0400

670-1 is an interesting read, and as I understand has been updated a lot in the last decade.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2017 4:47 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:47:07 -0400

Last I recall, and was confirmed at SLC, was a slight break at the top of the foot. The drawings in DA PAM 670-1, Apr 2015 show a break, but I can't find text that specifically says so.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2017 6:45 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:45:41 -0400

CSM Charles Hayden , I would not say I'm well versed in AR 670-1 since it likes to change so often, but I'm certainly well versed in the Control F function when ever I have a question about the regulation.