Posted on Nov 26, 2014
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With all the draw downs, quality controls and push towards a smaller more quality and efficiency driven force, what is your opinion on EFMB as a requirement or strong suggestion for all AMEDD senior leaders to have?
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The EFMB is more difficult to attain than the EIB if you look at percentages of pass rates for both. Considering that, unless you have the time to train and achieve it at the LT or CPT rank, the chances of you having enough time to study and prepare yourself as a MAJ-COL are highly unlikely. I guess the question is, "Does a badge make you a better leader?" My answer is no. If it's a question between two perfectly exact people and one has an EFMB and the other does not, then there you go...that's a discriminator. Now...if one person has an EFMB, but the other has two masters degrees in leadership and management and is on their way to a Doctorate in organizational psychology and has a proven track record as a leader...which one would you want?
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Sir,
Would you say having the ranger tab makes a better infantry officer? Do you know many strategic infantry officers without it?
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That is a tough question. As a senior AMEDD NCO I want to earn a EFMB and I am in the process of trying to do that. I don't think that everyone is in the position to be able to compete for one. I do believe that it should carry serious "weight" when going for promotions.
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SGT(P) Wardmaster   Intensive Care Unit Platoon   68 C20   Licensed Vocational Nurse
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Those of us in the medical field joke and call this the "Expert Field Memorization Badge". Most of what is taught is old school doctrine and not used in actual patient care. I would take a Combat Medic who has deployment experience 100x over than a EFMB badge holder without. As LTC Paul Labrador and others have stated it is basic skills and those in senior ranks are able to critically think outside the "lane" standards. As a Combat Medic and Burn ICU Nurse of 10+ years these lanes frustrate me with the way they test and the standards they test. I understand that there has to be a standard, however the standard is very outdated.
Also, another limiting factor is that you cannot have a permanent profile and compete unless the profile is due to a combat injury. I understand not waiving a task due to profile however if the soldier, such as myself, can compete and finish every task to standard the profile should not stop me from competing.
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SGT(P) Wardmaster   Intensive Care Unit Platoon   68 C20   Licensed Vocational Nurse
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Thank you as always for your valued advice MSG.
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SGT(P) (Join to see) Not all "combat tours" are equal, nor are all medics. There are plenty of 68Ws with right sided patches who performed very little direct medical care. Also, there are some garrison medics with exceptional clinical expertise who never were assigned to Role 1 care forward. I can certainly understand the frustration of profiles preventing participation.
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SGT(P) Wardmaster   Intensive Care Unit Platoon   68 C20   Licensed Vocational Nurse
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Roger Sir, I agree 100%, that is why I stated Combat Medic with deployment experience versus just some one who has the EFMB badge. Maybe I wasn't specific enough however I meant "medical" experience in my above post. Not every Medic is equal, for those deployed or not that is for sure Sir.
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COL Drew Moore I concur, Sir. The worst I have heard is the "Badge Protector" label applied to testers. I have seen great medics bolo, on more than one occasion. Hard work, and a fair bit of luck is involved in every Successful EFMB story.
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