SFC Private RallyPoint Member 23119 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For those of you who have been in long enough to remember what housing was like when the Army ran it vs the private company that does now, which worked better in your opinion? Is the private company taking care of issues in an effective and efficient manner with the tenant's interest at the fore? Did the Army DPW do a better job in these areas? Why? Do you think that military housing improved after it was privatized? 2013-12-18T13:03:36-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 23119 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For those of you who have been in long enough to remember what housing was like when the Army ran it vs the private company that does now, which worked better in your opinion? Is the private company taking care of issues in an effective and efficient manner with the tenant's interest at the fore? Did the Army DPW do a better job in these areas? Why? Do you think that military housing improved after it was privatized? 2013-12-18T13:03:36-05:00 2013-12-18T13:03:36-05:00 SSG Robert Burns 23126 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I never lived on post under DPW but I can tell you I hate Balfour Beaty.  To me it's the biggest scam in the military. Way over priced town homes.  You get a 1200-1500 sq ft town home for the price of what you can get 2500-3500 sq ft single home on the economy.  No services they provide you make up that cost difference. Response by SSG Robert Burns made Dec 18 at 2013 1:22 PM 2013-12-18T13:22:37-05:00 2013-12-18T13:22:37-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 23135 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>I have lived on post under both the old system (Ft. Leonard Wood) and under the privatized system (Ft. Belvoir).  I find it difficult to decide which is better overall because each has their merits.</p><p>Overall, the quality of the available housing has improved with privatization (new construction is running about four times what it did before) and the response time for problems is generally quicker (the old DPW work order system was PAINFUL).</p><p>Value for the dollar is the issue.  As a lower rank enlisted soldier, on post housing is probably your best deal but I am a CPT on the east coast (Aberdeen Proving Ground).  My BAH is $2,100 and for that amount, Corvias offered me a 1,699 sq. ft., 3 BR, 1 Bath duplex with a 2 car garage.  I decided to go offpost and got a 2,100 sq. ft., 3 BR, 3.5 Bath town home, with a three room master suite (5 piece master bath), and a fireplace for $1,895.  With utilities, I'm paying about what I would have paid Corvias and got a hell of a lot more house in a very nice neighborhood.</p> Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2013 1:38 PM 2013-12-18T13:38:40-05:00 2013-12-18T13:38:40-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 23392 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm rather fond of the housing company here at Fort Lee.. I've never had an issue with them, and any matters that need addressing are usually done within 4-6 hours.. Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 18 at 2013 8:48 PM 2013-12-18T20:48:22-05:00 2013-12-18T20:48:22-05:00 SFC James Baber 23400 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>Not at all, I lived in both government housing and privatized housing, while the govt service was a pain in the butt for the old work order system, the privatized is just as slow at times. The other issue is value for your money, while I was stationed at Lee, I lived in an area that still had the Korean War housing, it was old and needed regular upkeep, but it was nice sized, the problem was that they took your money when they shouldn't have, I had an E4 living in quarters exactly the same next to me and he paid his E4 BAH, I was initially an E6, when I got promoted to E7, I received a letter that my new BAH would be applied, I pulled the BS card, I stated I was still in the same substandard housing and had not moved to senior quarters, I had a junior Soldier living in the exact same quarters as me next door and he was paying just over a $1000 a month, while I was paying $1240 a month, now that I was promoted I am not going to pay $1300 a month for the same quarters, if they wanted to charge me more we needed to have a grievance hearing, we did and I won, the committee blasted the company (Pinnacle) at the time for attempting to get more money from me just because I was promoted, the committee agreed it would be normal if they were moving me to new quarters, but to do it while I was still in the same quarters was against the premise of the policy to begin with. Needless to say, Pinnacle no longer runs the privatized housing on Fort Lee anymore, it has changed companies in the last two years.</p><p><br></p><p>It is a scam for the privatized housing and the sad thing it has been able to run itself for almost two decades now, I first saw it at Fort Hood in 1996 when they opened the first privatized complex there as a test run.</p> Response by SFC James Baber made Dec 18 at 2013 8:52 PM 2013-12-18T20:52:46-05:00 2013-12-18T20:52:46-05:00 LTC Jason Bartlett 23524 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my opinion privatized housing has been better for all the reasons stated already. I would agree with CPT McCormick on the value for the dollar but I have been given the opportunity to move to another house but never took it (just didn't want to move).  Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Dec 18 at 2013 10:46 PM 2013-12-18T22:46:16-05:00 2013-12-18T22:46:16-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 990483 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The quality of privatized housing varies greatly from post to post. Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 1:07 PM 2015-09-24T13:07:57-04:00 2015-09-24T13:07:57-04:00 SFC Casey O'Mally 4429541 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The privatized housing shore is purdy. But that is about its only benefit. Every privatized housing office at every installation that I dealt with had the basic attitude that they were only there to collect my Soldiers&#39; BAH. Had one of these literally tell my barracks Soldiers that black mild in the barracks ventilation was the Soldiers&#39; problem to fix. Then they held a barracks town hall to show the Soldier&#39;s how to go buy a spray bottle and bleach, then spray the black mold whenever they saw it creeping out of the air vents. And the CSM was totally OK with that answer, too. (Yet another case where I was dangerously close to court martial.) Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Mar 7 at 2019 8:05 PM 2019-03-07T20:05:37-05:00 2019-03-07T20:05:37-05:00 2013-12-18T13:03:36-05:00