Do you think that the Democrats staging a sit in, because their anti-gun bill didn't pass, is a sore loser act or justified?

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:23:41 -0400

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2016 8:26 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:26:12 -0400

Too many "bill"s in there. Sorry!

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Jun 22 at 2016 8:28 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:28:16 -0400

Just playing politics as normal...

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Jun 22 at 2016 8:28 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:28:29 -0400

I think that they look like the idiots that they are but it is their right to be stupid.

Response by SFC Leo McIntyre made Jun 22 at 2016 8:30 PM

SFC Leo McIntyre — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:30:10 -0400

YES! To both!!! They are sore losers that should be docked pay for NOT doing their job!!!

Response by SPC Zac Long made Jun 22 at 2016 8:32 PM

SPC Zac Long — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:32:22 -0400

Considering the passion behind all of the failed movements of passing "tougher" laws - it is understandable.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2016 8:35 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:35:55 -0400

House Democrats stage sit-in protest in dispute over gun control
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/22/house-democrats-stage-sit-in-protest-in-dispute-over-gun-control.html

House Democrats stage sit-in protest in dispute over gun control | Fox News

Rebellious Democrats shut down the House's legislative work on Wednesday, staging a sit-in on the House floor and refusing to leave until they secured a vote on gun control measures before lawmakers' weeklong break.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 22 at 2016 8:36 PM

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:36:05 -0400

They're like a kid who threatens to hold their breath if they don't get their own way.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Jun 22 at 2016 8:39 PM

Capt Tom Brown — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:39:14 -0400

This could be called 'grandstanding' or 'grandsitting'. However until both sides are willing to compromise nothings going to happen. So far, bills from both sides have been voted down with each side claiming the down-votes benefitted the public safety and security.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Jun 22 at 2016 8:43 PM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:43:08 -0400

Well on paper their protest is justified. What they are arguing is that the house should hold a vote on the bills they want. They know darn well that such a vote would be rejected.

Which is the rub of it, they (Democrats) want the ability to go and lie to voters during the election, they want to have Republicans vote against a bill that would deny a constitutional right to American Citizens with no due process who have not even been accused of a crime so they can tell voters that the Republicans voted "to put guns in the hands of terrorists" You already saw it happen after the Senate vote.

Their misinformation campaign is working too, they are getting more and more people convinced that "Assault Weapons" are bad and must be banned. American voters who don't know anything about guns are being inundated with misleading or false information.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jun 22 at 2016 9:10 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:10:29 -0400

No, it's a sore loser act. They are not upholding the Constitution so they need to all be removed from their position while forfeiting any pay and retirement. They are not acting on the behalf of their constituents. They are acting like children and need to be removed effective immediately.

Response by Capt Lance Gallardo made Jun 22 at 2016 10:08 PM

Capt Lance Gallardo — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:08:25 -0400

So democracy sucks huh Democrats? This is a TERRIBLE precedent so that when the Republicans are in the minority and they don't like how the Democrats are running the table and controlling the floor of the House (there are no filibusters allowed in the lower house of Congress, like in the Senate), and deciding what bills make it to the floor for debate, they can throw the same temper tantrum and bring the House's business to a halt, by engaging in such disruptive and undemocratic actions.

This does not bode well for the future legislative business of the House of Representatives. The Democrats do this kind of shut down, shut up and sit down to the Republicans in my state of California, where they have a super majority, and they completely dominate and control the legislative process.

If they want to have the power, they are going to have to win the House back through the ballot box. I think those House members should be arrested and charged with a Federal crime of intentionally interfering with the legislative business of the House of representatives. This is not a legitimate excercise of your legislative duties as an elected official as a House of Representative Member. What's next? Fist fights among Members of Congress when you don't get what you want on the floor?

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Jun 22 at 2016 10:43 PM

1SG Brian Adams — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:43:18 -0400

Yes,...

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jun 22 at 2016 10:50 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:50:49 -0400

What do I think?

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Jun 22 at 2016 11:32 PM

MAJ Matthew Arnold — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:32:49 -0400

There are parliamentary rules that both sides should follow. If we don't congress degrades into an unruly drunken shouting match in a bar (prior to the fight breaking out).

Response by Capt Michael Greene made Jun 23 at 2016 12:07 AM

Capt Michael Greene — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:07:54 -0400

Despite the predictable invective rhetoric against Liberals and Democrats, accusing us of trying to destroy America or dismantle the Bill of Rights, the truth is that our goals for America are peace, prosperity, justice and fairness for all. We live and breathe the Constitution.

This sit-in is a heartfelt attempt to force the Republicans to throw off the NRA's chains and vote for saving innocents lives in America.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jun 23 at 2016 12:41 AM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:41:31 -0400

Yes to both. And to top it off they had a chance to vote on a 72hr wait time bill, but refused. And to top this all off, none of the bills presented would have stopped this past shooting or in my opinion will stop more violence. I listened to a interview with Idaho Senator Jim Risch. He stated the bill was unconstitutional, and the Sit-iners have no intention in upholding it (Constitution). He also stated guns weren't the problem. If the guns weren't there, what stops a person from buying sodium nitrate fertilizer, combining with a little diesel, add some nails, steel balls, etc and have a much more effect killing weapon than a gun? Fertilizer is easily obtained anywhere, no waiting period. He also stated the bill presented was just knee jerk response to the shooting, which I also believe. Again, need to attack the problem, if not we're in deep do-do (imo we already are half way down the slippery slope and sliding fast).

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2016 12:57 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:57:02 -0400

Justified. We are one of the only "first world" countries that don't control guns.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jun 23 at 2016 1:01 AM

CAPT Kevin B. — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:01:43 -0400

It's a political ploy as the Senate already rejected, hence would be a waste of time in which actual (did I say actual?) work could get done. I look at the liberal side as being very misguided by targeting a tool and not the radical Islamic terrorists as a vastly greater threat. I was a long term Democrat but registered Independant out here in Idaho because I'm just fed up with the nonsense in both parties. Everything has to be News Cycle sexy. Nobody is doing the hard work of moving this country out of its decline. Looking at the candidates, I'm reminded of Jeff Dunham's "Walter". "300 million sperm and that's the one that got through."

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Jun 23 at 2016 1:06 AM

SSG Trevor S. — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:06:07 -0400

Since they didn't vote for the Republican backed bill that re-instated due process, I think it makes them look like whining crying babies. But that's just me.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2016 1:40 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:40:33 -0400

The way the question is worded sort of mis-reads the situation. The sit-in isn't being held "because their anti-gun bill didn't pass." They are protesting not even being able to vote on the legislation they seek to pass. The question is framed as if the House had their vote, which failed, and then the Representatives staged their protest.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Jun 23 at 2016 5:38 AM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 05:38:27 -0400

You want to prove your point......keep your ass there until 5 July!

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jun 23 at 2016 7:43 AM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 07:43:33 -0400

MSG Private RallyPoint Member It is the most asinine, childish thing I have ever seen take place in the US Congress. What a bunch of hypocrites. The Democrats, under that idiot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, refused to vote on too many things to count, as did the Senate under that fool, Harry Reid. Now, when they don't get to vote on what they want, they act like the spoiled brats they are. Idiots...

Response by SGT David T. made Jun 23 at 2016 8:05 AM

SGT David T. — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:05:32 -0400

What they do on their break is their business. It wont change change anything, so why waste the time in doing it? I would be mean and turn off the lights and lock the door on my way out lol

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2016 8:39 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:39:32 -0400

The "representatives" staging a sit in on the House floor are attempting to subvert Constitutional process with their civil disobedience. They claim they want a vote; they had FOUR and lost them all. Now they want to bully their unconstitutional bills into law. By rejecting the legitimacy of the constitutional process they have declared that they are violating their oaths of office. Therefore, they should be stripped of their offices and censured.

They also must be physically removed from the U,S. Capitol building. The last time Americans occupied a government building in this manner, they got a SWAT raid and prison terms.
We cannot allow those who make laws to violate the Constitution in order to enact them. If we allow this to continue, our democratic processes and our Constitution itself will be lost forever.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2016 9:17 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:17:54 -0400

Not sure what to call it, but sore loser would probably be the closest

Response by LTC Marc King made Jun 23 at 2016 9:55 AM

LTC Marc King — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:55:16 -0400

Interesting... when Ted Cruz stopped the constitutional process in its tracks the nation was suffering a crisis of untold magnitude. When the Demarcates shut down the constitutional process it is for the good of the people. This is becoming very perverted and very worrisome.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jun 23 at 2016 10:16 AM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:16:25 -0400

All they ask was for the 2 bills to be allowed to be voted on. Everyone knew it would not pass. Why did the GOP not allow the vote?

Political cowardice!

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made Jun 23 at 2016 9:45 PM

PO1 Aaron Baltosser — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:45:50 -0400

Sore loser act. Charlie Rangel speaking with the Daily Caller said he didn't even think his constituents had the right to carry any firearm, and added that only members of Congress rated guns for protection. Nonsense. Two sets of rules is the very basis of why we split from the British in the first place. I sincerely hope the left stops the direct attacks on inalienable human rights before we see another armed conflict between the People and those that think themselves to be ruling class.

Response by SFC Charles Temm made Jun 24 at 2016 10:53 AM

SFC Charles Temm — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:53:20 -0400

you left out the most likely one, a fund raising tactic

all the proposed bills were bad, Repub and Dem. All ignored due process tho the Repub ones did address that as an afterthought.

Like Sen Feinstein says, .." you can always prove you are innocent AFTER (being added to the list) and get taken off it..." Yeah no harm there at all

Response by PFC Russell Burton made Jun 28 at 2016 7:35 AM

PFC Russell Burton — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 07:35:42 -0400

Definitely sore losers!! Sitting on the ground like children at story time

Response by SPC Thomas Hanson made Jun 28 at 2016 11:11 AM

SPC Thomas Hanson — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:11:28 -0400

When the last terrorist plane crashed in a Pennsylvania field instead of Congress, that was your last chance to ever have an honest elected official in Congress. If it had happened, only honest men would run for office. As it is now, they get eaten for lunch.

Response by CWO3 Warren Gaudreau made Jun 28 at 2016 12:26 PM

CWO3 Warren Gaudreau — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:26:30 -0400

Cry babies, throwing a hissy fit because they didn't get their own way.

Response by PO2 Robert Cuminale made Jun 28 at 2016 12:27 PM

PO2 Robert Cuminale — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:27:53 -0400

Considering that they've admitted that it was a fund raising stunt and that neither their two bills and the Republican's two bills were not supposed to pass it's worse than sore loser, it's opportunist.

Response by PO2 Brandon Amacker made Jun 29 at 2016 8:18 AM

PO2 Brandon Amacker — Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:18:29 -0400

A better question is why is the Second Amendment the only right that you have to purchase a permit to utilize?