Does a person have any claim to serving or being a Vet if injured in a pre basic training course and not making basic training?

2019-12-09T13:06:37-05:00

Didn’t finish the pre basic either but was sworn in @ meps

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2019 1:12 PM

2019-12-09T13:12:40-05:00

No. Not able to claim Vet status. Nor any claim to have served.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2019 1:23 PM

2019-12-09T13:23:35-05:00

Am i a Doctor if i failed college algebra before being accepted to Medical school? C'mon man!!!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2019 1:25 PM

2019-12-09T13:25:53-05:00

No.

What is a Veteran? Title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.” This definition explains that any individual that completed a service for any branch of armed forces classifies as a veteran as long as they were not dishonorably discharged. However, with regard to applicable benefits, other considerations are important and will be covered in later sections.

References: For more information on:

the definition of the term Veteran for purposes of compensation, Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC) and death pension, see
38 CFR 3.1(d), and Paulson v. Brown, 7 Vet.App. 466, 470 (1995), and
groups approved for Veteran status under Public Law (PL) 95-202 and 106-259, see M21-1, Part III, Subpart iii, 2.K.3.

Response by LTC Kevin B. made Dec 9 at 2019 1:47 PM

2019-12-09T13:47:58-05:00

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Response by SPC Dennis Kregel made Dec 9 at 2019 5:26 PM

2019-12-09T17:26:08-05:00

Wow, I would have to respond that the answer would be no they do not have any claim to having actually served or being a veteran.

Response by SPC Stewart Smith made Dec 9 at 2019 6:26 PM

2019-12-09T18:26:26-05:00

No you are not a vet. You will not be given any vet status. You will not be given a vet ID at any VA clinic. You will not be put in any medical tier at any VA clinic.

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Dec 9 at 2019 7:25 PM

2019-12-09T19:25:15-05:00

If they never even made it to basic, then no. There are certain exceptions if someone is hurt in training, but since they didn't even make it to BCT, no.

Response by SPC Angela Burnham made Dec 9 at 2019 7:37 PM

2019-12-09T19:37:04-05:00

They didn't even make it to their training station? How exactly were they inured? Was this a RSP thing?

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Dec 9 at 2019 9:21 PM

2019-12-09T21:21:53-05:00

Private RallyPoint Member you must have served a minimum of 180 days to be considered a Veteran.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Dec 9 at 2019 9:23 PM

2019-12-09T21:23:18-05:00

Private RallyPoint Member one way of maybe getting Vet status is Delayed enlistment...I had 10 months delayed enlistment...to get the job I wanted and skip text school...due to a 2 yr. degree. When I got out of basic, I already had 11 months time and grade.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 3:06 AM

2019-12-10T03:06:13-05:00

The balls on this guy with that question

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 5:36 AM

2019-12-10T05:36:21-05:00

OMG, No!

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Dec 10 at 2019 8:45 AM

2019-12-10T08:45:39-05:00

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 10 at 2019 9:47 AM

2019-12-10T09:47:48-05:00

LOL...no.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 1:00 PM

2019-12-10T13:00:03-05:00

My ex brother in law went to MEPS. Joined Army Reserves. Went to basic - didn't even make it out of reception. He was there for 2 months as they outprocessed him I think for failure to adapt and I think he hurt himself somehow in reception.

He doesn't qualify as a veteran. If he ever tried to (he never has) say he is I would smack him in the face.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 6:15 PM

2019-12-10T18:15:50-05:00

Respecfully,

Absolutely not. I am sorry you were injured and didn't attend, but you never served or even came close. For me personally, even those who attended BCT but didn't make it all the way through are not Veterans either. That's a matter of opinion on my behalf, but you do not qualify by any standard.

Response by PFC Adam Murray made Dec 10 at 2019 7:10 PM

2019-12-10T19:10:13-05:00

No.

Response by PFC Adam Murray made Dec 10 at 2019 7:10 PM

2019-12-10T19:10:31-05:00

No.

Response by SPC Shawn Campbell made Dec 10 at 2019 7:31 PM

2019-12-10T19:31:42-05:00

You shouldn't call yourself a vet even if you made it to basic bit didnt finish. Thanks for trying out. Come back another time if you really want it.

Response by PO2 Richard Taylor made Dec 10 at 2019 8:23 PM

2019-12-10T20:23:08-05:00

Even in my time, a person was considered a veteran only if they served in a war zone. Obviously we live in more nuanced times but someone who didn't even make it to basic? Nope!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 9:49 PM

2019-12-10T21:49:15-05:00

No I wouldn’t go around claiming it

Response by PO3 David Davis made Dec 11 at 2019 12:16 AM

2019-12-11T00:16:19-05:00

If you did not make it though basic training, you are not a Military vet.

Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Dec 11 at 2019 2:41 AM

2019-12-11T02:41:01-05:00

Are you seeking the legal answer, or the ethical one?

Ethically you either actually served or you only tooled around in training phases preparing you to serve.

I choose not to answer the latter for anyone merely seeking benefits without ever doing anything.

Response by LCpl Paul Messer made Dec 11 at 2019 8:41 AM

2019-12-11T08:41:44-05:00

Technically no you are not a vet. A veteran is a person who has serviced at least one day of active duty. Meaning at least one day of boot camp not pre basic training course. Sorry.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2019 10:23 AM

2019-12-11T10:23:21-05:00

THANK YOU to ALL of YOU, for your Service and answering my question! I CANT WAIT TO SET THIS PERSON STRAIGHT!!!!!

Response by TSgt Timothy Backstrom made Dec 15 at 2021 6:23 PM

2021-12-15T18:23:19-05:00

No. You are not a vet by walking by the Recruiting office, thinking about signing up, and tripping on your sandals.

Response by CPO Curt Kuhn made Dec 15 at 2021 6:52 PM

2021-12-15T18:52:31-05:00

It's been so awhile but I remember something to the effect of; if you do not make past 90 or perhaps
180 days the military does not consider you as ever serving??? Could be wrong. Policies change rapidly now days

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2021 12:30 AM

2021-12-16T00:30:10-05:00

You actually get an uncharacterized discharge. Like you never existed. No you are not a a veteran.

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Dec 16 at 2021 8:28 AM

2021-12-16T08:28:39-05:00

I used to work in a VA nursing home. We had several patients who had 100% disability (somehow) for not being able to complete basic training. Back during the draft, they let many messed up guys thru the draft board & into basic training. I think at that point the military turned them into a charity case. Two of them I knew were childlike. One was 70 & ended up in the VA nursing home when his mom died. He had nobody to clothe him, feed him, etc. I don't blame the men, I blame the morons at their draft boards who cleared them for basic training. In the VA nursing home they were looked down upon by the other, real vets. Oddly enough, we had some guys who had such low IQs they were considered mentally retarded. Forest Gump types. They still served honorably in combat yet.