SGT Private RallyPoint Member 5251919 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We have a soldier that failed to self identify derogatory information and was later discovered during continuous evaluation. My question is, is it required for a service member to self identify derogatory information if the unit wouldn’t otherwise find out? I searched AR 380-67 and a few executive orders and for the life of me couldn’t find an answer. 2019-11-18T23:33:35-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 5251919

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We have a soldier that failed to self identify derogatory information and was later discovered during continuous evaluation. My question is, is it required for a service member to self identify derogatory information if the unit wouldn’t otherwise find out? I searched AR 380-67 and a few executive orders and for the life of me couldn’t find an answer.

2019-11-18T23:33:35-05:00 2019-11-18T23:33:35-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 5251922

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes. Regardless of what it is. See something say something. I turned myself in for taking my phone in by accident today. Accidents happen.

2019-11-18T23:35:10-05:00 2019-11-18T23:35:10-05:00 CSM(P) Jamie Lethiecq 5251935

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would particularly under continuous enrollment since whether or not a unit knows about something or not, the enterprise tends to know.

2019-11-18T23:41:31-05:00 2019-11-18T23:41:31-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5251941

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A soldier has the responsibility to report any and all problems to their respective command for situational awareness if nothing else. This goes for any soldier, not just an S2. While withholding, if not asked directly, doesn&#39;t violate regulations it does cause concerns over the character and morality of the soldier. If the soldier was asked directly then lied or attempted to cover it up then that is a different matter. For instance, an incident took place before or after enlistment but clearly failed to disclose it knowing that officials were required to know. The incident could be multiple ticket infractions, failure to disclose medical problems, drug abuse, history of violence, etc.

2019-11-18T23:44:36-05:00 2019-11-18T23:44:36-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 5251975

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To an extent. If it falls under one of the 13 adjudicative guidelines, then yes. If outside of the guidelines, then it’s likely the individual was arrested

2019-11-19T00:06:48-05:00 2019-11-19T00:06:48-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 5251990

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Gents thank you for the quick responses, I greatly appreciate all of the answers. Bottom line up front the service member clearance was suspended and is pending further investigation. DoD CAF requested more information and we are attempting to gather that information. My S2 and myself spent the majority of today trying to find a answer in Army Regulation that stated or at least strongly implied that a soldier must self report derogatory information to their chain of command, our efforts resulted in very loose translations in AR 380-67 and a few EX ORDS. The investigating officer wants something that’s a little more black and white. Again thank you for all of the responses especially so late in the evening.

2019-11-19T00:14:13-05:00 2019-11-19T00:14:13-05:00 SFC Casey O'Mally 5253412

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For clearances, not only are you required to self-reporr derogatory info, but technically any major change, even if not derogatory, such as a marriage. It is rarely actually done (My S2 looked at me like I was crazy when I reported mine) and I am too long out of the PERSEC game to quote you references, but the requirement is there.

2019-11-19T11:58:42-05:00 2019-11-19T11:58:42-05:00 CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana 5253529

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Failure to self-identify derogatory information before the Unit digs it up contained in files can be construed as hiding information and/or concealment of evidence, in legal terms.

2019-11-19T12:32:36-05:00 2019-11-19T12:32:36-05:00 CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana 5260115

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Accepting one&#39;s own mistakes is tough for some and then, challenging oneself to turn mistakes into solutions makes it simpler to hide those mistakes. We must ask ourselves, as leaders with integrity beyond reproach, does hiding one&#39;s mistakes change the person or that person&#39;s character. The answer is that hiding mistakes leaves the impression that the person concealing his or her mistakes is characterless and dishonest; this person is untrustworthy. <br /><br />On the other hand, admitting one&#39;s mistakes leaves an impression that this person is honest and open to change; willing to learn and improve oneself. In addition, if a solution was achieved after mistakes were made then, it proves the person is ready to take risks, accepts shortfalls and achieves solutions; a troop that doesn&#39;t give up.<br /><br />It might not be mandatory to self report derogatory information, yet by doing so shows character and integrity, which qualities rank very high with leaders; best is to self report derogs and face the music, if any.

2019-11-21T10:23:55-05:00 2019-11-21T10:23:55-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 5269080

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you create an incident report in DISS, it will ask you if the SM self reported. I believe they will favorably take into account a self report.

2019-11-23T23:45:31-05:00 2019-11-23T23:45:31-05:00 2019-11-18T23:33:35-05:00