Fort Carson announced they will stop vehicles during retreat.

2014-03-14T17:15:25-04:00

I'm not surprised this is the action they took after a Soldier made headlines for posting about hiding out because she didn't want to salute. I agree with the actions they took. What are your opinions on the matter?

http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140313/NEWS/303130044/Carson-announces-traffic-stops-after-soldier-snubbed-flag-salute

Carson announces traffic stops after soldier snubbed flag salute

Military police at Fort Carson, Colo., are stopping vehicles at on-post intersections during retreat, the post's Facebook page announced after outrage over a soldier who posted a selfie of her avoid...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2014 6:55 PM

2014-03-14T18:55:38-04:00

I think this is fantastic. Too many have allowed tradition and regulations to fall to the wayside and this today is why young service members do some of the things they do. If we start enforcing the standards again as they should be, in time the tide will turn and we can return to a level of respect and credibility we can be proud of. <div><br></div><div>It starts at the top though. We need to lead from the front and perform in use manner that we want our Soldiers to perform in. My old commander constantly echoed this, don't talk about it, be about it.</div>

Response by SGT Kevin Smith made Mar 15 at 2014 6:34 PM

2014-03-15T18:34:15-04:00

When I was stationed there 98-01, they always did stop traffic in the morning and evening. when did they stop?

Response by TSgt Phillip L. made Mar 15 at 2014 6:51 PM

2014-03-15T18:51:36-04:00

Good.

Response by MAJ Bryan Zeski made Mar 15 at 2014 6:55 PM

2014-03-15T18:55:36-04:00

While I understand the idea of stopping traffic for the flag, it has no bearing and will make no difference on the Soldiers who it is intended to instill discipline in. Stopping traffic wouldn't have prevented the Soldier from hiding out in her car taking selfies - and it won't stop any others. It's a fine idea, but to do it as a reaction to situation doesn't make sense.

Response by CSM Christopher Irwin made Mar 16 at 2014 2:36 AM

2014-03-16T02:36:53-04:00

There should be no opinion in this matter...only strict adherence to the policy. It's a sad state of Army-affairs that we have to resort to this policy (if not already in place) to get Soldiers to do the right thing. I, like a few other posters wasn't aware they stopped this to begin with. I would go so far as to put those caught NOT stopping their cars on duty being the road guards that stop traffic for a month.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 7:05 AM

2014-03-17T07:05:46-04:00

Sadly this is the result of the Army recruiting heavily during wartime and letting pretty much anything with a heartbeat join. They couldn't find a job on the outside, or couldn't hold one and the Army said "sure you can join". Now they wear the uniform like their back on the block and when they are off duty they they act like fools.

I don't agree with being easy on these soldiers. I say Dishonorable Discharge and get rid of them. That way when they go to apply for a job or benefits that DD will be there. They shouldn't be on the same level as those that served with honor.

Now you just wait, there will be someone who fights this. Some barracks lawyer or family member that says it's unconstitutional.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 11:27 AM

2014-03-17T11:27:03-04:00

I surprised it took this long, I'm used to it. In Korea and Okinawa it's already like that.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 11:43 AM

2014-03-17T11:43:32-04:00

Having no experience with Fort Carson except for a TDY out to Butts AAF for HAMET training, I was unaware they weren't stopping traffic before this incident. It has always been my experience, particularly near the garrison flag pole, that traffic was stopped at Retreat. I don't think there's a place I have been stationed that it wasn't the case. Regardless, I agree with CSM Irwin that it's downright sad when soldiers can't be bothered to do the right thing.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 11:43 AM

2014-03-17T11:43:54-04:00

You are supposed to STOP anyways!

Not only should they stop them, they should get a ticket as well as a good "Counseling Session" with their First Sgt!

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Mar 17 at 2014 11:44 AM

2014-03-17T11:44:36-04:00

My question is this. Simply why would you NOT, render the proper respect to the colors, Nation and Service. Wether NCO, Officer, or Jr enlisted,WE signed the papers to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. It is only fitting that we as soldiers stop and PAY Respect to all those that have served and or paid the ultimate price defending this Great country. Yes it is keeping you from the family that you are ultimatly protecting in the firstplace, for a few more minutes.

This is a personel response not ATTACKING anyone when I use the term you by no mean form or fashion.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 12:03 PM

2014-03-17T12:03:13-04:00

Should be happening anyways!! If your on a military instalation during retreat or reveille, regardless if your military or civilian... THE FLAG DESERVES RESPECT from ALL Americans.

Response by MAJ Dennis Malone made May 28 at 2014 2:48 PM

2014-05-28T14:48:39-04:00

Why did this even become a question? Aren't all folks required to stop and pay their respects IAW regulations? If they didn't want to salute the flag and pay tribute...why did these folks even join?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 3 at 2014 4:44 PM

2014-10-03T16:44:49-04:00

I think it's appropriate. Though I'd hate to be anywhere near those same intersections 5 minutes before colors!

Response by SSG John Erny made Oct 3 at 2014 4:52 PM

2014-10-03T16:52:14-04:00

Getting an ass chewing from the Post CSM should do the trick, along with a heat round down to that idiots leader.